Best town to live in close to Yosemite


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Jebus H Bomz

Peavine Basecamp
Mar 21, 2013 - 01:53pm PT
Reno or carson city


Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 21, 2013 - 02:07pm PT
So I was with some Swedes in the Valley and my car got broken into at the
old Apron parking lot. Besides a bunch of gear and cameras they took the
Swedes' passports and AMerican Express travelers checks, remember those?
Anyway, we gathered around the pay phone outside the bank while the Swede
who spoke the best English called Amex. Overhearing this conversation was
priceless. She kept asking him where the theft ocurred and where he was now.

"I'm in Yosemite National Park."
"Where's that?"
"It's in California."
"Where in California?"
"It's a national park in California."
"Yes, but where in California is it?"

This went on for quite a while as the only answer she wanted was that of a
city in California and something could not exist unless it was in a city, right?
Then he got the brilliant idea to mention that he was standing outside the
bank in Yosemite National Park. Suddenly it was if that made it a real place
as it had a bank. Then she was willing to talk to him.
The Swedes thought that was the funniest and most pathetic thing of their
whole trip.
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Mar 21, 2013 - 03:01pm PT
Was probaly some meth heads from down in the central valley.

Trad climber
Starlite, California
Mar 22, 2013 - 04:50am PT
How close you must live to a city depends upon what kind of slave you are. Chose a place...a place "too far" away, then double the distance, because, eventually, people will follow your path (if procreation keeps up).


In the 'Milks, within bicycle range of The Peabodies, good enough for when Tioga is closed. What you do for a living depends upon what you carve out for yourself.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Mar 22, 2013 - 05:13am PT
>I've often thought of making the move to California to be closer to Yosemite and the Sierras<

Don't stop at the TPR, Matt, on your next trip to the SIERRA.

Just fair warnin'.

>There is a sweet little airport in Mariposa.<

That's not all. It's the choice of the booest dogs and the merriest posers alike!
If you lived here, you'd be nearly in Yosemite in the time it takes to...
If you lived here, you'd be nearly in Yosemite in the time it takes to read this thread...
Credit: mouse from merced
Just below Mariposa on 140.

No love for Mercy Gulch?

It's been my privilege to meet such as Roger Brown and Werner Braun who have carved out niches for themselves in the Valley. There are others like Ken Yeager taking business the Curry Co or DelNo hand out. There are countless others doing the same thing in other mountain villages and hamlets. Like cooking or waiting on tables part of the year, trying to make it on UI the rest. I worked seasonally for yearts in this valley town and were it not for having to pay all that child support, I'd have had enough scratch to climb regularly. As it happens, even if you live close, money's still an (at least a small) objective problem, even if you work hard.

(Really, man, stay out of the range of HJ at TPR unless you nomenclate the Sierra Nevada correctly.)
the Fet

Mar 22, 2013 - 12:17pm PT
Yeah Sonora seems to fit the bill the best. Close as you can get to the park and be in a decent sized town (for work, and ladies- which is what we all know you mean by people your own age).

Any of the central valley cities/towns from FresNO to Stockton are pretty depressed.

The central valley can fill with fog in the winter. Sometimes it's warmer at 6000 feet on the ski hills than in the valley. The more you get into the foothills the more you avoid it. I'm at only 400 feet and avoid a lot of it. If you get above around 1000-1500 feet you avoid all of it.

Sacramento is the best you can do in the central valley, which isn't saying much. But it's a decent city. Foothills east of Sacramento are a good compromise between climbing/skiing/jobs.

Kirkwood is the last major resort to the south. So you could live in Lodi and be close to world class skiing and Yosemite, but then you'd be stuck in Lodi. There's other areas further south like dodge ridge and china peak but they have less expert terrain. If you are only into backcountry skiing there's lots of good places.

If you are into boating there's Lathrop (near Stockton) and the Delta. The delta is a pretty amazing resource people forget about for some reason.

Too many people and only 1 freeway out of it to Yosemite which is a parking lot on Friday afternoons. But as you said the Bay Area would be a good place to start if you have family. Maybe stay in a room at a relative's house and then buy a cabin up by the valley.

Social climber
Mar 22, 2013 - 01:05pm PT
Another option is to live wherever and just visit Yos for a couple of weeks a year. I'm telling you, Yosemite sucks as a regular weekend destination. I don't care where you live you will encounter spirit breaking traffic, even in the valley. Two or three hours to the valley floor after work on Friday? Don't count on it. I'd ignore every time estimate posted here- people in California are voluntarily delusional about how long it takes to get around, otherwise we would go crazy.

Also, no town with actual jobs posted on this thread is close enough for routine day trips (unless you are a glutton for punishment and love driving 150+ miles each day behind Germans driving rental RVs) so you have the whole camping thing to deal with. Most of the camping is hard to get and not that great when you do.

It's an amazing place but a tough one to have as your local crag.


Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Mar 22, 2013 - 09:29pm PT
Yup....Yosemite is a place for superlatives. Best climbing on the planet and right up there for the worst hang.

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Dec 27, 2013 - 01:09am PT
School me on Lodi.

There is a possibility I could be moving to the central valley for school at some point in time which would take place in Stockton. Everyone says Stockton is dangerous and I need to live in Lodi or somewhere else nearby.

Suggestions besides going to school somewhere else?

Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 27, 2013 - 01:45am PT
Funky house in the Delta.


Rent out the top floor of the General Store in Farmington


Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Dec 27, 2013 - 03:50am PT
San Jose is 3.5 hours from the Valley.

San Jose must have moved, 'cause I lived in San Jose for many years and it never took less than 5-1/2 hours. And I drove to the Valley almost every weekend for years.

One time I made it in 4 hours hitch-hiking. I hitched a ride in San Jose with a guy who was trying to get to his brother's wedding on time (in 3 hours). I was so terrified of how fast he was driving I closed my eyes and pretended to go to sleep so that I wouldn't have to look.

If you leave San Jose at 6:00 p.m. on Friday night, at 11:00 p.m. you'll still be trying to get out of the Bay Area traffic.

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned how bad the crime is in San Jose and the central valley (Frezno, Modesto, etc.). I guess you guys are all just accustomed to living in high crime areas.

Bishop has my vote. Bishop rules.
Harvey Manfrenjensen

Big Wall climber
Dec 27, 2013 - 04:02am PT
After 57 posts by the locals telling you how shitty that area is to live in...

Live somewhere you like and road trip it.

I dunno
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Dec 27, 2013 - 04:39am PT
Hmm, if you leave San Jose at 6pm on Friday, it might well take you 5.5 hours.
Especially if it was in the years before 101 was widened south of San Jose - that used to be quite a bottleneck. Or before 205 at Tracy went to 6 lanes.

I've done the drive many times in 3.5 hours from Palo Alto,
but usually I leave at 7:30, 8pm or later.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Dec 27, 2013 - 08:28am PT
Harry gets it. Crime is the stopper for many settlers in the Central Valley.

Where ya land is where ya land.

If you HAVE a choice,

STAY OUT of the Central Valley plains, where you could get mugged, knifed, rolled, car-jacked, die of lung disease, get run over by a Budweiser truck, die in a drive-by or gang shooting, a police shooting, or a domestic beef with your significant one;

find no job for months on end if you get laid off, fight traffic lights, ignorant drivers, fog, miles and miles of flat, open fields, miles and miles of having no view for the f*#king orchards;

and Taco wagons every third block in some neighborhoods, Armenian colonials, Hmong colonials, Jalisco colonials, Sonora colonials, a world of colonials;

methamphetamine farms, pot farms, low-riders, cowboy wannabes, oil patchers, The CHP, homeless by the score in many places, more Mexican radio stations than in Mexico itself;

Mouse from Merced, the HEAT, the bad air for days and days, and maybe in-laws if you are truly out of favor with the Lord.

On the other hand, there's the whole Sierra Nevada, not just Yosemite, to play in when time permits.

And Oakdale. Can't forget Oakdale. Get to Oakdale for the Climbing Festival and look around. (It's looking better than Merced to me right now.)

I've lived in the Valley and the Valley and I'd not hesitate to choose the Valley over the Valley.

It's a no-brainer.

The City just plain isn't in it.
It all works out.

Mountain climber
Dec 27, 2013 - 12:09pm PT
In January my son & I visited Louisville for the Cyclocross World Championships and noticed how much the restaurants were like those in the San Francisco Bay Area .Right now I think that is where you would find a great outdoor & people place to move to. Good luck !
Wade Icey

Trad climber
Dec 27, 2013 - 12:39pm PT
everybody knows those SF to Valley drive times start at Altamont and end at the Iron door.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 27, 2013 - 01:04pm PT
I've lived here for 25 years, so I know....

yer gonna die.


Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Dec 27, 2013 - 03:59pm PT
Crawford, Co.....sweet little town next to the West Elk Wilderness. Okay, it's not near Yosemite but it is right next to the Black Canyon....a Yosemite like experience with a little more spice, few people and no ranger hassles.
John M

Dec 27, 2013 - 04:31pm PT
I think bergbryce is still waiting for someone to tell him about Lodi. I don't know it at all.

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Dec 27, 2013 - 04:36pm PT
Montecito.....a little distance but if you can afford to live there you probably have a helicopter option.
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