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mts4602
Mountain climber
Louisville, KY
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2013 - 08:35am PT
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The Sacramento option is appealing, I had not thought of that before. Roughly the same distance to the valley as SF, but much closer to skiing, and the mountains overall. I appreicate all of the feedback. I have family in the bay area so that may be a good place to start out due to the connections.
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Mar 19, 2013 - 09:36am PT
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I lived in Nevada City for about 12 years, and found it to be fantastic on many fronts: world class mountain biking within minutes, Donner Summit about 50 minutes away, lots of other Tahoe area climbing within 1 to 1.5 hours, Yosemite within 5ish hours, XC skiing within minutes, snow shoeing within minutes, incredible local beauty, lots of cool cultural stuff, and within commuting distance to Sac for work and/or more nightlife options.
I'm not a huge fan of Fresno, but I've heard from many who live there that it's got its positive trade-offs, too.
Good luck!
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Mar 19, 2013 - 10:23am PT
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Actually the closest you could get would be to live IN Yosemite.
Delaware North seems to always be a little short-handed and hiring.
http://www.yosemitepark.com/aboutus_employment.aspx
Now we may get a bunch of rants against this company but it's no worse than any other large company and there seem to be many employees who love their job and stay there working in the Valley for decades.
They seem even more short-handed down in Sequoia. Most likely because the work is seasonal and who wants a half-year job.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Mar 19, 2013 - 11:12am PT
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Go to Fresno, that will leave the door open for further dreams of your real Xanadu.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Mar 19, 2013 - 11:21am PT
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You would be best off living in Boulder, getting a flying license, and investing in a Cessna 210.....there is a sweet little airport in Mariposa. You might have to get some money from mom and pop.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Mar 21, 2013 - 07:13am PT
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Jim, Cessna 210 (what I trained on), you don't set your sights high enough, Grumann Gulfstream or Dassault Falcon 50, though the Mariposa Airport (runway - 3,306 feet/1,008 meters) may not handle one of those babies, and neither could my checkbook.
but you certainly have set your sights high enough as a climber.
mts4602, I agree with several posters, if you have family in the Bay Area start there and then decide.
EDIT
Actually, I started out with a Cessna 182. well, before that a Cessna 160.
But I am now looking at buying a 747, just like the president on Air Force One, and the scientology kook, John Revolta.
You see, there is more room for the mountain of climbing gear I have on these aircraft.
Gear I will never use, but, I can dream.
Though a Cessna 210 is not a bad idea.
Seriously though, apart from my thread drift, mts4602, northern California has a lot to offer, just stay away from the Southland.
And to iterate, not having spent much time in the Golden State in recent years, I really have no idea where best to settle. Antelope Valley and Bakersfield would definitely be off my radar.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Mar 21, 2013 - 07:48am PT
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Do the 210 Cessna purchase and fly into Mammoth-Yosemite international...Oh wait , that's on the eastside , a 100 miles away with a snowbound Tioga Pass...My bad...
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10b4me
Ice climber
Happy Boulders
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Mar 21, 2013 - 10:50am PT
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Do the 210 Cessna purchase and fly into Mammoth-Yosemite international..
And watch out for ALL the commercial jets flying in there
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Mar 21, 2013 - 10:55am PT
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They just said on the news that west Fresno won for shortest life expectancy in the US or something like that, holla! I still like the valley, not much within 1/2 hour, but everything in under 2.
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BuddhaStalin
climber
Truckee, CA
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Mar 21, 2013 - 11:29am PT
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Reno or carson city
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mike a.
Sport climber
ca
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Mar 21, 2013 - 11:34am PT
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oakhurst, 20 miles from yosemite, and mins from shuteye, hands down best town close to yosemite, i think even better then bishop, you just can't beat shuteye, one of the best places i have ever climbed at, happy climbing mike a.
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dirt claud
Social climber
san diego,ca
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Mar 21, 2013 - 11:34am PT
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Didn't get a chance to read through the whole thread so not sure if anyone mentioned Sonora yet? I though that was a cool place when I lived there for a few months.
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
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Mar 21, 2013 - 12:31pm PT
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Yeah, whoever was recommending the Boulder-Cessna route, its probably cheaper just to build a house in Oakhurst, since there's so much undeveloped land.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Mar 21, 2013 - 01:46pm PT
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Proof positive that there is no benevolent God. A benevolent God would never have positioned such a magnificent piece of natural architecture between the dreadful San Joaquin Valley and the desolate and culturally devoid Owens River Valley.
Central Colorado would have been a far better choice. If HE is looking to rectify his mistake ( and prove His existence) i am sure that we could come up with some tax incentives and moving costs.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Mar 21, 2013 - 02:07pm PT
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So I was with some Swedes in the Valley and my car got broken into at the
old Apron parking lot. Besides a bunch of gear and cameras they took the
Swedes' passports and AMerican Express travelers checks, remember those?
Anyway, we gathered around the pay phone outside the bank while the Swede
who spoke the best English called Amex. Overhearing this conversation was
priceless. She kept asking him where the theft ocurred and where he was now.
"I'm in Yosemite National Park."
"Where's that?"
"It's in California."
"Where in California?"
"It's a national park in California."
"Yes, but where in California is it?"
This went on for quite a while as the only answer she wanted was that of a
city in California and something could not exist unless it was in a city, right?
Then he got the brilliant idea to mention that he was standing outside the
bank in Yosemite National Park. Suddenly it was if that made it a real place
as it had a bank. Then she was willing to talk to him.
The Swedes thought that was the funniest and most pathetic thing of their
whole trip.
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
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Mar 21, 2013 - 03:01pm PT
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Was probaly some meth heads from down in the central valley.
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KabalaArch
Trad climber
Starlite, California
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Mar 22, 2013 - 04:50am PT
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How close you must live to a city depends upon what kind of slave you are. Chose a place...a place "too far" away, then double the distance, because, eventually, people will follow your path (if procreation keeps up).
Starlite.
In the 'Milks, within bicycle range of The Peabodies, good enough for when Tioga is closed. What you do for a living depends upon what you carve out for yourself.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Mar 22, 2013 - 05:13am PT
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>I've often thought of making the move to California to be closer to Yosemite and the Sierras<
Don't stop at the TPR, Matt, on your next trip to the SIERRA.
Just fair warnin'.
>There is a sweet little airport in Mariposa.<
That's not all. It's the choice of the booest dogs and the merriest posers alike!Just below Mariposa on 140.
No love for Mercy Gulch?
It's been my privilege to meet such as Roger Brown and Werner Braun who have carved out niches for themselves in the Valley. There are others like Ken Yeager taking business the Curry Co or DelNo hand out. There are countless others doing the same thing in other mountain villages and hamlets. Like cooking or waiting on tables part of the year, trying to make it on UI the rest. I worked seasonally for yearts in this valley town and were it not for having to pay all that child support, I'd have had enough scratch to climb regularly. As it happens, even if you live close, money's still an (at least a small) objective problem, even if you work hard.
(Really, man, stay out of the range of HJ at TPR unless you nomenclate the Sierra Nevada correctly.)
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Mar 22, 2013 - 12:17pm PT
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Yeah Sonora seems to fit the bill the best. Close as you can get to the park and be in a decent sized town (for work, and ladies- which is what we all know you mean by people your own age).
Any of the central valley cities/towns from FresNO to Stockton are pretty depressed.
The central valley can fill with fog in the winter. Sometimes it's warmer at 6000 feet on the ski hills than in the valley. The more you get into the foothills the more you avoid it. I'm at only 400 feet and avoid a lot of it. If you get above around 1000-1500 feet you avoid all of it.
Sacramento is the best you can do in the central valley, which isn't saying much. But it's a decent city. Foothills east of Sacramento are a good compromise between climbing/skiing/jobs.
Kirkwood is the last major resort to the south. So you could live in Lodi and be close to world class skiing and Yosemite, but then you'd be stuck in Lodi. There's other areas further south like dodge ridge and china peak but they have less expert terrain. If you are only into backcountry skiing there's lots of good places.
If you are into boating there's Lathrop (near Stockton) and the Delta. The delta is a pretty amazing resource people forget about for some reason.
Too many people and only 1 freeway out of it to Yosemite which is a parking lot on Friday afternoons. But as you said the Bay Area would be a good place to start if you have family. Maybe stay in a room at a relative's house and then buy a cabin up by the valley.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Social climber
SLO, Ca
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Mar 22, 2013 - 01:05pm PT
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Another option is to live wherever and just visit Yos for a couple of weeks a year. I'm telling you, Yosemite sucks as a regular weekend destination. I don't care where you live you will encounter spirit breaking traffic, even in the valley. Two or three hours to the valley floor after work on Friday? Don't count on it. I'd ignore every time estimate posted here- people in California are voluntarily delusional about how long it takes to get around, otherwise we would go crazy.
Also, no town with actual jobs posted on this thread is close enough for routine day trips (unless you are a glutton for punishment and love driving 150+ miles each day behind Germans driving rental RVs) so you have the whole camping thing to deal with. Most of the camping is hard to get and not that great when you do.
It's an amazing place but a tough one to have as your local crag.
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