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north fork
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Mar 18, 2013 - 05:44pm PT
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North Fork.
Duh.
-JR
Yuuup. Bottom line, you gotta be a total badass to live here though. Probably why minus jr had to move away.
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BooDawg
Social climber
Butterfly Town
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Mar 18, 2013 - 05:51pm PT
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I like Mariposa for its small-town ambiance and it's about an hour to the Valley. It has the best winter access to the Valley with Hwy 140, so except during storms, one could climb all year in the Valley, keeping to the north side of the Valley during the winter.
I KNOW there's need for good and reasonably priced accountants here, tho you might be able to hook into a larger firm elsewhere and do the work by telecommuting if you don't need "city-fixes" too often. There's a lot going on here in this small town in spring and summer, but it gets kinda quiet during the winter.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Mar 18, 2013 - 05:52pm PT
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Lost Sandwiches
Reasons:
Tahquitz
Josh
EastSide & West Side
Weather is great
Barney's Beanery
The Beach
Cheaper world flights out of LAX
Money is fairly abundant
Quality food is highly abundant
No football team to worry about in the NFL standings
Movie Stars
Swimming pools
The Pasadena Scene
The Silverlake Scene
The West Side Scene
The Valley Scene
most of all
Stoney Point, where legends are born.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
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Mar 18, 2013 - 06:13pm PT
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No Modesto votes?
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Mar 18, 2013 - 06:31pm PT
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I had an axle fail near Groveland one time. We had to find a place to stay while the repairs were made. The only place that would accept dogs was the trailer park across from the market. We stayed there for three nights while the mechanic continually tried to rip us off. We had everything stolen that wasn't locked up or bolted down.
The mechanic was trying to tax us heavily on the work. 3x markup on a new axle. My brother, being a mechanic, got on his phone and sourced the part for the 1/3 price. We returned to the mechanic and asked if he would install a part that we supplied. Dude got red in the face, threatened me, and asked me if I'd bring my own steak to a steak dinner, his words. He refused to let us take the vehicle to a different shop. Things ended well when my younger brother, who is much larger than me, said what needed to be said.
Long story short, we vanquished the methheads, threatened the mechanic, went down the road to a reputable mechanic, not the AAA garage, and limped the vehicle back to Truckee.
On our second night in weirdtown, we went to the Iron Door. My brother and I were in the company of beautiful women, and by the end of the night, some old drunk a-hole threatened to kill me if I didn't let him speak privately with my girlfriend.
Keep on driving when you hit Groveland.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Mar 18, 2013 - 06:31pm PT
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I'm from the Fresno-Visalia area. Class was cancelled Monday so I went to the valley for the afternoon, climbed in solitude, had a snack in el cap meadow and was home in time to get some stuff done. Friday I bouldered all afternoon in perfect weather. Saturday I went to the valley again just to show a friend around. Sunday I climbed in Sequoia in solitude.
It's almost time for world class whitewater. I get to share the road with tractors. Great river fishing. Spent last weekend at the coast for a change of scenery. I play in water all summer and the snow all winter. You get part of your daily calorie intake from the air.
I love the central valley. Think about it...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Mar 18, 2013 - 06:34pm PT
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No Modesto votes?
There's always a smartazz in the crowd.
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KP Ariza
climber
SCC
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Mar 18, 2013 - 06:41pm PT
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Atwater
Stockton
Visalia
Terminous.....
Sacto Valley towns so desparate that you'll maximize your time in YNP.
Garaunteed.
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snowhazed
Trad climber
Oaksterdam, CA
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Mar 18, 2013 - 06:42pm PT
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I make it to the valley floor in three hours from Oakland. Tuolumne is about 3:50, 3 hours to Tahoe. I live in a beautiful forested canyon that is a half mile from the freeway, 10 minutes from downtown, 20-30 minutes from San Fran. The weather is soo nice here almost year round, the cuisine is world class, the culture is multifaceted, the economy is great.
I could never live in Fresno, just one big strip mall and suburban sprawl. And yes, many days out of the year it smells like sh#t. Like many have said, if the main attraction to living in Fresno is the valley, why not move closer to the valley?? I'll take one extra hour of driving thanks!
PS- I have love for all my Fresno peeps, I'm just an elitist a-hole :)
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rockermike
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Mar 18, 2013 - 06:52pm PT
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Isn't the new University of California In Merced? I always figured a good university makes for a good town - though it may take time for the town to grow up.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Mar 18, 2013 - 07:04pm PT
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Oh ya, don't believe drive times from anyone in the bay area. Just a heads up, it's a running joke in the rest of the state.
"I can go skiing in two point five hours" Hahahahahhhaaa!
Maybe everyone there just drives a porche in the middle of the night on weekdays with no highway patrol?
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Mar 18, 2013 - 07:07pm PT
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I like Markleeville and June Lake.
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KP Ariza
climber
SCC
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Mar 18, 2013 - 07:08pm PT
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Limp,
you're wrong man. roadways are free flowing here for the most part. Unlike the rest of the state.
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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Mar 18, 2013 - 07:16pm PT
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Atwater - a definite choice for an impoverished Central Valley crankster mecca. Low rent. Low lifes. Since they closed the B52 base everything is shuttered and falling down. All the off-base military contractors that used to work there got fired, only first they had kids. A whole generation of hookers and pimps. Plenty of bargains strolling around town. Lots of overt anger and repressed rage. A place that will never come back. But 1-hour drive to Yosemite makes it a dirt bagger's destination of choice.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Mar 18, 2013 - 07:17pm PT
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I don't know KP, I lived in Tahoe for two years and had to go to the Bay area a lot. I'm a fast driver, I never make stops and I still couldn't come close to the numbers everyone was giving me when I was working the lifts or repairing their gear.
When I lived in Stockton it took longer to get to the valley than the SF climbers I'd meet.
I could be wrong, I usually am, but I know lots of people who noticed the glitch in bay area clocks ;-)
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lars johansen
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Mar 18, 2013 - 07:53pm PT
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I'm thinkin' San Francisco.
lars
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KP Ariza
climber
SCC
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Mar 18, 2013 - 08:04pm PT
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Iv'e logged drive time from Downtown Sonoma to Squaw entrance in under three on a few occasions. Made the Ditch proper in 3 hours 15 minutes as well. You're right though, gotta go at key times and hit it a bit hard. Monday through Thursday 10:00am start time and the asphalt seas part for you.
With SF 40 minutes away and Stinson Beach and the North Coast of Sonoma not much further, Wine Country ain't a bad place to be.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
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Mar 18, 2013 - 08:06pm PT
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No way, Man.....Ir's Visalia.
Grow somethin', will ya?
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Gene
climber
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Mar 18, 2013 - 08:17pm PT
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After 30-some years in the Central Valley, I know it sucks. Bad air. High crime. Gang bangers galore. Chronic unemployment. Low wages. No culture. Bad schools. Bubbas in pick-ups. Very low Ipad-to-population ratio. Few hybrids on the potholed roads. Churches on every corner. Rampant Ill literacy. Tweakers who will pull your fillings for the scrap metal. Hell, if you got any metal in anything larger than 2 gauge in your ear, the tweakers will scrap that too. English is the second language - even for thems that got ‘Merican as a native langwage. You’d be hecka batshit crazy to move to the Central Valley.
I like it here.
g
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franky
Trad climber
Bishop, CA
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Mar 18, 2013 - 08:24pm PT
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Sacramento, Davis, and Chico are the best towns in the central valley, all of them are pretty far from Yosemite.
Be aware that the central valley is HOT HOT HOT in the summer. The air quality is also awful (especially if there are a few fires burning). The air is bad enough to negatively impact life. Air quality and temperature are noticeably better in the Sacramento area than they are in Fresno.
Fresno has over a million people and despite that it is tough to find a shop that isn't walmart and food that isn't fast. I agree that there is a lot of climbing within 2 hours or so, but very little within an hour. The hospital in Fresno has one of the best trauma centers in the state, mostly due to the amount violence in the area.
Modesto is worse than Fresno.
Visalia is better than anything else in the southern part of the central valley, but not that much closer to Yosemite than Sacramento, which is a way better place to live.
I don't know many people who live in Bishop who get to Yosemite Valley much, the pass is of course open in the fall which is the best time to climb there, but it is still a haul and the likelihood of getting stuck behind slow traffic on Tioga Pass is high, you're looking at 3.5hrs or so.
No ideal place to live that is near Yosemite.
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