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BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
Mar 16, 2013 - 03:53pm PT
It is true. China is blessed with many natural resources, but they have pitiful oil reserves and not much hope to find any.

Chinese geologists are pretty sharp, though. They regularly publish.

As for N Korea, Seoul is so close to the border line that N Korea already has thousands of artillery tubes aimed at each block in the city. All they have to do is say "Fire." and Seoul will be destroyed. They don't need nukes to do this.

If they do do this, even the Chinese won't back them. N Korea will be a smoking hole in the ground.

If you have any doubt that the N Korean man in the street is as batshit crazy as the leader, check out a Netflix documentary about a Doctor who was allowed in to do several hundred quick cateract surgeries. When they pulled off the bandages they were all in tears that they could now see a picture of the "Dear Leader."

Those people are totally brainwashed. If you are found with a radio you die. The N Koreans make Iran look like a boy scout troop.

For that matter, Iran would probably be a great country if they weren't overseen by the clerics. They have a pretty modern society and know what is going on in the rest of the world.

Sooner or later, the N Koreans will do something really horrible. At least with Iran, you can bet on a strategic standoff with their enemies, much like the cold war was. The relationships are already like that, anyway.

The N Koreans are totally insane, though. No doubt about that.

Go look up the documentary on Netflix. It will blow your mind.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Mar 16, 2013 - 04:28pm PT
War seems to come out of nowhere, like rust that suddenly pops up on iron after a storm.
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Mar 16, 2013 - 04:34pm PT
WAR CAN COME FROM NOWHERE OUR BIGGEST TRADING PARTNER IS GOING TO ATTACK US AT ANY TIME WE MUST BORROW MORE TO BUY WEAPONS TO PROTECT OURSELEVES!!!!111

WBraun

climber
Mar 16, 2013 - 05:29pm PT
Don't worry coz it's just all a front.

It's just pure entertainment ...... lol

:-)
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Mar 16, 2013 - 06:12pm PT
North Korea, huh? Is that where a bunch of my classmates are about to get sent to die?

Good to know.

I'll be out climbing... you all figure that sh#t out.
10b4me

Boulder climber
takin' the scenic route to Montana
Mar 16, 2013 - 06:23pm PT
Cuz the only economic resource the Philippines has is a cheap labor pool, and China really needs more of that.

as do the US corporations
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 16, 2013 - 06:45pm PT
The new Sexiest Man on earth doesn't worry me as much as his dad did cause with each generation, like us, they're becoming increasingly co-opted by soft living and materialism. Hedonists are not willing to risk their necks for some dated dogma.

Besides, all this posturing is simply a way to pry concessions from us. The one thing is that if we back them too far into the corner the crazy bastards might feel like they've nothing to lose. Rather a lot like our crazy loser school shooters.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Mar 16, 2013 - 07:43pm PT
Wars paradoxes.

http://victorhanson.com/articles/hanson121412.html


Every thread like this contains at leas one post lamenting that Americans don't understand and are isolated from the rest of the world.

No one seems to consider that it may work the other way round in spades.

History is replete with examples of leaders (particularly third generation tyrants) that take completely irrational actions.













Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Mar 16, 2013 - 08:42pm PT
And you still don't have a point.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Mar 16, 2013 - 08:45pm PT
Gotta love Victor Hanson's perspectives.

Its all in the culture.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Mar 16, 2013 - 08:55pm PT
BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
Mar 16, 2013 - 08:56pm PT
Coz, you know about as much about petroleum geology as I do about Hollywood Rigging.

Team America is one of the funniest movies ever. All done with dolls. The uncensored love scene is classic.
RyanD

climber
Squamish
Mar 16, 2013 - 08:59pm PT
No one seems to consider that it may work the other way round in spades.


If u watched that link I posted up thread TGT you will realize how very right you are. It is far beyond anything the sheltered Americans have to deal with. These people know absolutely nothing except what they are told from birth. Independent learning/thinking is impossible there, really quite fascinating in this day & age how such a small geographic area has maintained it's, uhhhh, ahem, dare I say for lack of a better term- "business plan". Obviously terrifying as well.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Mar 16, 2013 - 09:57pm PT
you wonder just how well N Korea would do in a war.

Apparently, artillery is their big dog. However, fixed artillery is actually a good target.

You wonder how long, until they are out of gas, food.

Whether their strategists know about logistics under fire.....you can move rifles and ammo, but you can't move artillery or tanks, or gas tankers.

The DMZ is filled with the worlds highest concentration of mines.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Mar 16, 2013 - 10:12pm PT
Humans have a lot more power than wisdom and if that equation gets any more skewed toward power, we won't have long before a grave reckoning

Peace

Karl
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Mar 16, 2013 - 10:24pm PT
Maybe the N. Koreans thought Rodman was Barrack..?
mojede

Trad climber
Butte, America
Mar 16, 2013 - 10:29pm PT
Hilarious (and weirdly scary) North Korea anti-American propaganda...



Gene

climber
Mar 16, 2013 - 10:46pm PT
The birds will be eaten on Tuesday....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/13/how-americans-live-today-north-korea-fake-video_n_2868121.html

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TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Mar 16, 2013 - 10:47pm PT
you wonder just how well N Korea would do in a war.

The outcome a foregone conclusion.

The level of death, destruction and suffering?

Huge for both north and south.

BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
Mar 16, 2013 - 10:52pm PT
Coz, like a twit said:

...Just, your... Fox news views of Iran, are surprising for an oil guy.

Most of the money guys in the business like Fox News, but I can assure you that I do NOT other than to see how ridiculous they are now and then. It isn't news. I have one friend who is a Republican. I forgive him.

My views of Iran are that, unlike N Korea, where the populace is as insane as their leaders, Iranians are not immune to the world, as seen in the uprising in 2009 when Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was falsely re-elected. That uprising and the protests were put down with violence against the people. So the populace isn't as insane as the clerics.

Iran was actually a democracy until the Brits talked us into joining them in staging a coup which placed the brutal Shah in power. Yep. He was democratically elected and we replaced him with an evil Monarchy. Not the first time this stuff has bit us in the ass.

My guess is that Israel will toss the first nuke, or at the least airstrikes designed to take out their nuclear facilities, the main one of which is underground because Israel did the same thing to Syria long ago.

Iran is crazy because they have a religious non-secular supreme leadership and a corruptly placed President, who regularly makes inflaming remarks.

They don't measure up to the Israeli military or their nuclear arsenal. Any nuclear attack on Israel would more or less remove Iran from the face of the Earth.

Now what part of that is in line with Fox News or the right wing nutjobs who work there? Hell, the Christians freaking love Israel.

There are some crazy minded Jews in Israel, and the U.S. has paid a high price in the Middle East for supporting them unconditionally and covering their asses in the U.N. Security Council.

Now tell me what part of that I snitched from Fox News or the Koch Brothers or Glen Beck, who people in this country actually listen to.

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