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Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Mar 14, 2013 - 08:17pm PT
Okay....Fitzroy does make a good backdrop. So that picture is supposed to make me believe you only eat sheep?
Jebus H Bomz

Peavine Basecamp
Mar 14, 2013 - 08:59pm PT
You should buy a plane ticket to Australia/New Zealand. That's pretty down south, and the climbing is supposed to be awesome.
The Warbler

the edge of America
Mar 14, 2013 - 09:32pm PT
I'd invest in a good vehicle which you can live out of and tour the US for a year or two - see where that leads you. I've never tried to find work in a foreign country, but I'm thinking you'll have language and legal barriers with low pay.

The dogs - that's a tough one, but if you've spent most of your life on the east coast, you've probably got some sights to see from the Rockies west. Chances are those sights will satisfy your wanderlust.

Social climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Mar 14, 2013 - 09:37pm PT
It sounds like you've put alot of thought into this. I can relate to the pet thing. I had to do a search of my values in order to make my plan. The cat stays. It sounds like your pups have a good set up if you go. I wonder though, is this a reaction to these changes. If it's your dream, make it work. glad you took the time to receive input.

just my 2cents.

good vibes whatever you decide!


Trad climber
San Jose, CA
Mar 14, 2013 - 10:27pm PT
just eat the dog, sheesh that was easy ;)

In all seriousness, get that dog a home and get going! Just take pics and check in so we can live vicariously. Got two kids that prevent me from traveling like that but when they grow up...

Trad climber
Mar 14, 2013 - 10:54pm PT
Brandon, you should catch up with my younger brother. He has his own landscaping business that he operates spring - late fall, and then every year from Jan - March or so he travels all over the world. He lives in a group house to keep expenses super low.

Got him to try climbing a few days ago...

New partner in crime?!! LilaBiene's younger, dashing bro. EDIT: 12 May...
New partner in crime?!! LilaBiene's younger, dashing bro. EDIT: 12 May 2013 - my bro just fessed up that this is a stock photo of the route that he climbed - we had a really good laugh. :D Too funny!!!
Credit: Unknown

He's officially screwed...muah ha ha ha ha!

Trad climber
Ridgway, CO
Mar 14, 2013 - 11:01pm PT

Trad climber
Mar 14, 2013 - 11:06pm PT
The sheep heard you were coming and fled

Too funny! I've got a dirty mind....

Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
Mar 14, 2013 - 11:30pm PT
Brandon, I've "known" you for a while now on supertopo and you are so obviously such a good-hearted person. There are so many paths that could be a "right" path for you. But I'm not one to say "follow your heart". Rather, I would say, check in with your gut and your heart and your mind and see where you settle. The balance is important.

Maybe you could have everything your heart desires. One scenario (which incorporates something Ron recommended): Maybe move to an area in the US (with your doggie) where you could get some construction work and save up some bucks. But also a place with a community college where you could take some evening classes to expand your long-term career potential, either to synergize with and build on your construction expertise (spanish skills? management courses?), or to head in a different direction long term (health care? computer stuff?) You're smart enough that you could be a success in so many areas.

After a couple of years building a base, you might be in a much stronger position to then follow your wanderlust...
Just one perspective - you'll make the right choice for YOU!
xo Phyl

Big Mike

Trad climber
Mar 14, 2013 - 11:57pm PT
Sounds like fun, but is it practical? Only you will know, when you get there. I know you're in love with down south, but have you thought of trying out west? Colorado, near your bro might be an option, or Nevada, Cali ect.. Maybe pimp out a van and you can cruise up north for a couple this summer??

South would be fun too, but west could be done with your pups.

You'll figure it out..
Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Mar 15, 2013 - 12:08am PT
Has anyone here done this? It's extremely appealing to me. I'm not averse to hardship or poverty, it's the wealth gained through experience that draws me.

Follow your heart, not your head.

Always. Especially in matters of love.

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Mar 15, 2013 - 12:31am PT
I guess you're not gonna die. Nobody's tossed that out here yet, so I call "No dyin'" on ya, just for luck.

Whatever you do: Don't jump into this, and don't rely on wages, don't get too outrageous, don't check the Yellow Pages.

Do, however: Take time over ANY decision, sift as MANY opps and scenarios that you can, even if they come from the KillerTaco, and practice your Spanish, it's terrible, I'm sure, just like mine.

bwain-AH swear-tay


El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Mar 15, 2013 - 12:48am PT
Do it, and take the damn dog!
But first
Spend the summer slangin' nitrous on Phish tour, maybe land a sick high end carpentry job somewhere, build up the nest egg ya know, do some climbing, reconnect with the west a bit, wait for it to get cold, grow a solid stache, then hit the road south.
Don't blog about it and make sure the Nano is anything but flouro green.
Do it, do it.

my nephew did the woofer thing for a year in AK and had a good experience.

Trad climber
The great state of advaita
Mar 15, 2013 - 12:51am PT
Don't think about doing it, just do it, especially if you've got an inkling of a vision (which by all means it sounds like you do). You probably won't end up where you think you would, but part of the journey is crossing that valley or jungle, climbing up that ridge, etc. to see just what is beyond there. In the process you'll discover new paths and wonders (and struggles and tribulations) that you'd never have even imagined existed. You'll be the richer for it and so too, I'd hazard a guess, will the world.

Otherwise, you risk ending up being some grumpy old man posting away on the Taco Stand thirty years from now! :-) Instead, you can be a jello or donini. And I don't necessarily mean in terms of climbing greatness (though by all means go for it!). Rather more in terms of their positive and wise and playfully cantankerous outlooks.

All the best!


P.S. Age ain't a factor here either. Not a requirement to be young in years to do the above. I think our dear Lynnie is a good example of that. Be young in spirit like her and the rest will follow.

Social climber
Mar 15, 2013 - 12:52am PT
To be honest if you are in your thirties, don't have a career and are still thinking that way you may as well just go for it. I am sure you would find a good situation for your dogs and could find your way around living / working.

That said, my experiences with people that have done the full ex-pat lifetime drop out thing have been negative in that I've seen high levels of alcoholism and this common general anger. A generalization I know, but whatev. Also, once you are rolling along and making a living in the economy of say, El Salvador, doing something like buying a plane ticket back to the U.S. becomes cost prohibitive.

I know you didn't ask for my advice but you posted a thread so you are going to get it anyway. Find seasonal work where you can make some $$. Fight forest fires, fish in AK, whatever. Then spend 5 or 6 months a year drifting around south america or wherever, still being able to withdraw money from an ATM and having a ticket home.

Trad climber
The great state of advaita
Mar 15, 2013 - 02:35am PT
Good on your bro' Lilabiene! Now what the heck is that gnarl he's climbing on? :-)


Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Mar 15, 2013 - 07:52am PT
I'm with on the edge and scared to death. Save some money, try it for 6 months with a plane ticket home and then decide if you want to spend a longer time at it.

It is hard to find work in developing countries unless you work for an agency with outside money. The locals don't have enough for themselves and really resent a foreigner taking away work, especially an American venturing south of the border.

Trad climber
Mar 15, 2013 - 08:20am PT

My daughter has been on a 1 year road trip.

She just came back from the West, including Mexico,

She is in Patagonia, as I speak, hiking around.

Go for it, if your inclined.

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 15, 2013 - 01:04pm PT
I know a finish carpenter who took his skillz to Europe for a couple years... also rode motorcycles N-S across Africa with his new girly friend.

I'd make sure you have something to fall back on. Traveling friends generally agree, ~$1k usually works to get you an apartment and necessities while you find a job... once you realize you are sick of traveling.

Trad climber
Less than a second shy of 49 minutes
Mar 15, 2013 - 01:07pm PT
Ya know. . . I'm facin' the same thing. . . if this place sells, I think I'm gonna put everything in storage, buy a Sprinter Class B motorhome and hit the dusty road. . . can't put the concept away, really. . . been burnin' up GOOG (rhymes with spooge) lookin' at rigs. . .


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