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10b4me

Boulder climber
takin' the scenic route to Montana
Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 14, 2013 - 02:28pm PT
If the weather stays like this, I say May 1st
but yet Werner says

The govt. is broke.

You all have to do it by hand as volunteers.

Are ya up for it?

Bring your shovels and start shoveling .....
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Mar 14, 2013 - 02:46pm PT
I'm with Werner. Every year, the NPS plows the Tioga Road to get it open earlier than it would be if all they did was wait for natural snow melt. Unless the snow melts on its own at 10,000 feet by May 1, the road won't open without plowing. We no longer have the Tioga Pass webcam, but I seriously doubt that Dana Meadows, not to mention some parts east and west thereof, will be sufficiently snow free to open the Road then.

While the government is far from broke,, the politics and theater of increasing spending less than what the Administration desires will cause any possible public inconvenience to happen, just to make points with the public.

John
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Mar 14, 2013 - 10:38pm PT
I'm beginning my pre packing/planning so I'll be Ready. :D
John M

climber
Mar 14, 2013 - 10:42pm PT
I would like to have the pass open, but we also need snow. This will be the second year in a row with well below averages if we don't have a wet spring.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Mar 14, 2013 - 10:46pm PT
The govt. is broke.

 The government is not broke, they just choose not to collect taxes from the wealthy, and are currently not choosing to pay for everyday expenses.

I blame the republicons as they are the ones who want to get rid of all government and completely privatize everything.

Tioga Toll Road coming to a National park near you soon!!!
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Mar 14, 2013 - 10:48pm PT
It's not a toll road? Seems like it to me.
Why do we pay taxes? So the government can hire someone to collect Tolls.
elAndy

Trad climber
El Portal, CA
Mar 14, 2013 - 10:49pm PT
Mostly snow free roads.... bike access only.... limited patrol.... sounds kinda nice to me.
east side underground

climber
Hilton crk,ca
Mar 14, 2013 - 11:20pm PT
+1 elAndy, no tools ,bike acess, ........nice
bergbryce

Mountain climber
California
Mar 15, 2013 - 12:24am PT
California is about to return to a more normal winter pattern with big shots of precip on the way. Maybe Memorial Day.
Inner City

Trad climber
East Bay
Mar 15, 2013 - 01:22am PT
May 16th..
Charlie D.

Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
Mar 15, 2013 - 09:25am PT
I hope bergbryce is right......change is expected next week.
bob

climber
Mar 15, 2013 - 09:31am PT
This Springtime love that we've been experiencing is great and all, but damn we need moisture!!!!! BAD.
Here's to a dumper of a Spring!

Bob J.
hossjulia

Trad climber
Where the Hoback and the mighty Snake River meet
Mar 15, 2013 - 10:26am PT
too early to tell yet, spring usually dumps. Skied great powder in May a few years.

We had a fake spring this past week in the Teton's, I knew it wouldn't last, snow and colder temps are coming back this week.
khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
Mar 15, 2013 - 10:42am PT
It's not a toll road? Seems like it to me.
Why do we pay taxes? So the government can hire someone to collect Tolls.


It is completely a toll road and a very expensive one at that. If you only need to avoid driving the extra miles to go over Sonora pass, it's like $0.50 per mile.


But here's hoping they have an extended soft opening for bikes only.
Adamame

climber
Santa Cruz
Mar 15, 2013 - 12:27pm PT
I think its about time they remove Tioga Road and return the area to a more natural state.

Are they still planning on starting the multi-year nightmare of repaving/widening project this summer? Its going to be a good few years to skip Tuolumne with all that chaos.
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Mar 15, 2013 - 11:28pm PT
Adamame, "Skip Tuolumne"?

Why would one do that? Let the Turons have the place to themselves? No way. I plan on my best season ever up there.

I love this place, the Eastern Sierra. I have done some training and studying to make this my best summer ever. I pick up tons of trash on my non work days.

Can't wait to get back home. :DD lynnie
east side underground

climber
Hilton crk,ca
Mar 15, 2013 - 11:35pm PT
Credit: east side underground

doubt that winter's quite done yet.......heh heh heh
ruppell

climber
Mar 15, 2013 - 11:39pm PT
doubt that winter's quite done yet.......heh heh heh

It's done on Wednesday. lol
John M

climber
Mar 15, 2013 - 11:56pm PT
Reading the parks website to try and figure out if they will be doing road construction this summer is an exercise in insanity. I think it says they plan to, but don't really know.

Anyone know?
khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
Mar 16, 2013 - 10:56am PT
No doubt bike lanes will not be added the next time major work is done. If they could do that it for even part of the road that would make it one of the truly great rides around.
10b4me

Boulder climber
takin' the scenic route to Montana
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 16, 2013 - 11:02am PT
It would take them years to get an EIA done
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Mar 16, 2013 - 11:25am PT
Big snow fall in the spring...? Those usually happen in big winters as i remember and this hasn't been a big winter being 65% of normal on precip....Since january our forecasters have been sprayng about the next storm being a big one...The word draught is a more accurate description as the days get longer and the temps climb higher...
khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
Mar 17, 2013 - 10:48am PT
Wait, isn't this intended to be the annual opening date prediction thread?


I'll take April 25.


http://www.nps.gov/yose/blogs/tmconditions.htm
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Mar 17, 2013 - 11:04am PT
I say close the Tioga road, pull up the pavement and make it into a hiking trail- sans horses, of course.
Slab climbers have strong legs.
10b4me

Boulder climber
takin' the scenic route to Montana
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2013 - 11:28am PT
Khanom, yes, this is a variation on the Tioga Pass opening date threads. Looks like you have the early date so far.
Jim, that sounds good to me.
Where should they start ripping up the pavement, Lee Vining?
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Mar 17, 2013 - 04:35pm PT
donini, 10b4me....I think you guys are either pulling our collective legs or jiving, right?

If they'd have done that when I was young, doubt I'd have experienced the outdoors as much as I did. Mom and Dad did great taking up all over the Sierra, but doubt they could have hiked all us kids into Tuolumne from Lee Vining. Only had a weeks vacation back then.

Of course some of today's kids would probably like the excuse to sit in front of the computer. If evolution proves true, children's legs will shrink, butts will grow into cushions and fingers will the the most powerful part of the human body.....Tami I need an illustration here. :D lynnie


Prediction: May 15
10b4me

Ice climber
Happy Boulders
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2013 - 06:42pm PT
Lynne,
not saying you should hike, but to make it more of an adventure,I think a horse and buggy would be more appropriate
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Mar 17, 2013 - 06:51pm PT
Veery close-minded of you to say that, Mr. Donini. You don't live here. You visited last when? How many people paid how much for that road to the pass?
Over fourteen million 1950s dollars (our parents' taxes bought your road to Lee Vining) for the two sections down from the summit to LV and to Crane Flat, and you say tear it up.

No way, Jose. It's gonna dump like hell in early May. July Fourth. (I like long shots.)
Mtbphoto

Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, Ca
Mar 17, 2013 - 07:12pm PT
Any data for when the road opened to the gate in the past? My guess for the road going all the way through is May 10th :)
John M

climber
Mar 17, 2013 - 07:14pm PT
Opening and closing dates plus the corresponding snow pack..

http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/tiogaopen.htm
Mtbphoto

Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, Ca
Mar 17, 2013 - 07:24pm PT
Bad wording on my post. Wondering if there is data for when the Tioga Rd opens from Lee Vining to the park gate, not through the park.
PeteStaehling

Social climber
Baltimore Md
Mar 19, 2013 - 10:34am PT
"No doubt bike lanes will not be added the next time major work is done. If they could do that it for even part of the road that would make it one of the truly great rides around."

I rode it in 2011 on a San Diego to Reno bicycle tour and thought it already was a truly great ride. I really didn't feel that the lack of bike lanes was a problem.
khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
Mar 19, 2013 - 11:08am PT
I've ridden it both ways and it entirely depends on when you go. If you have the misfortune of hitting it on the weekend, or worse a holiday weekend, you are seriously putting your life in jeopardy. Impatient tourists, clueless foreigners driving massive RVs...

Now that the Adventure Cycling Association has a new route that uses 120 it's only a matter of time before somebody gets creamed.

Mark my words.


Edit: The best advice comes from hossjulia -- take the lane. Just put yourself in the road on the narrower stretches on the western end. My own advice is go east to west, that way you are going downhill where the road is more dangerous and you are going more slowly where it is wide and safer (from Lee Vining to Tioga Pass)
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Mar 19, 2013 - 11:41am PT
That's okay Lynne, we'll keep the road open to the Tioga Pass Resort....from the Eastside.
We're trying to replace carbon footprints with real footprints....ha, ha.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Mar 19, 2013 - 11:50am PT
With "NO $$$$$$$ .... to plow" .... I guess June 10th.

Something in my old bones says we are going to have wet late March. Maybe even snow in April and a pre Memorial Day dump of snow.

The Needles upper road will open in late June but will be 4x4 only...

Lower Needles road.... closed due to budget cuts.


Fletcher

Trad climber
The great state of advaita
Mar 19, 2013 - 12:04pm PT
Hey, it's always open! Just depends on how you want to get up and through there. I think east side underground may have some beta on that. Question is whether he'll share it! Ha ha! John Muir and Jeremiah Johnson mostly likely would have waltzed through as well. Stupid Americans! :-)

> Something in my old bones says we are going to have wet late March.

I'm going with your instincts! The first year I cam out to California I entered via Tioga Pass in 1989 April, right after the March Miracle. Was blown away by 20+ foot drifts and vowed that I'd come back to this place soon. And the rest is history!

Eric
BooDawg

Social climber
Butterfly Town
Mar 19, 2013 - 12:19pm PT
My feeling about this spring is that a pattern of warm, short-duration, fairly dry air-masses is established, and this will continue with little significant addition to the snow pack. Look at the forecast for tonight-tomorrow: "Between 1/10th and 1/4 inches of new precipitation." Then another week of sunny, warm weather...
10b4me

Ice climber
Happy Boulders
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2013 - 12:24pm PT
What would Norman Clyde do?
Fletcher

Trad climber
The great state of advaita
Mar 19, 2013 - 12:36pm PT
Norman would be curled up by the fireplace drinking whiskey and reading the The Odyssey in the original ancient Greek!

Eric
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Mar 20, 2013 - 03:55pm PT
Donini, I actually do agree with the footprint replacement. As 10b4me suggested, small pony (less manure) and a buggy. Bringing in supplies to the yurt from Mammoth will be epic. Ohhhhhh, just kidding of course.

But seriously. I do agree with ways to make the area better, in all ways. With cars and tourists comes an enormous amount of trash. I sometimes pickup trash on my day off. A couple pulled over and said someone had left a big pile of dirty diapers etc. at a nearby pull out. Went and got them. Yuck. Some humans.......not all, just some, need schooling. lynnie
Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Mar 20, 2013 - 07:29pm PT
I agree with Donini. When I used to vacation with my parents in Tuolumne Meadows in the late 50s, it was a very special private place with a terrible road that defeated the tourist hoards. Everyone grew beards, even the NPS Rangers, because going to TM was almost like moving to Alaska. Lot of people at the time said that widening the Tioga Road was going to wreck the place. And they were right in many ways. Too many forces screaming to open it up and let the tour buses roar. Does TM really have a special wilderness feel when the doors of those buses open and a hoard of travelers hit the bathrooms en masse in front of the TM Store and Grill? Kinda grim! One thing sure has changed: The Rangers were a lot friendlier back then.
Greg Barnes

climber
Mar 20, 2013 - 07:52pm PT
Planners/rangers agree with you too, Bruce - they are planning on removing most roadside parking altogether, curbs preventing pulling off, etc. They are trying to reduce Tuolumne use traffic by reducing overall parking. You will end up with no way to park close to many crags, less chance of finding a spot to park even to take the shuttle, and (probably) the same no-shuttles-early-or-late season.
10b4me

Ice climber
Happy Boulders
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 20, 2013 - 08:51pm PT
^^^^that's going to work at the Cathedral trailhead.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Mar 20, 2013 - 09:30pm PT
my mom told me stories about driving up to Tenaya lake and throwing down a tent in the 60's. Thinking about a little california alps, riding a bike from trail head to trail head with a light pack and linking big domes and peaks... man that sounds like heavan. Can do it now but riding a bike on that road in the high season gets a little sketchy.
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Apr 1, 2013 - 07:20pm PT
Just heard today from a friend in Gardnerville that he heard the road will open May 11?!?! Could this be true?
Chris McNamara

SuperTopo staff member
Apr 2, 2013 - 01:59pm PT
Here is a link to the Tuolumne Meadows weather station http://mesowest.utah.edu/cgi-bin/droman/meso_base.cgi?stn=TUMC1

24 inches of snow right now

and links to other weather stations in the Sierra Nevada http://mesowest.utah.edu/cgi-bin/droman/meso_base.cgi?stn=TMEC1
Rimwalker

climber
Apr 2, 2013 - 05:29pm PT
Everybody rooting for the destruction or permanent closure of Tioga Pass Road must really hate the people of Lee Vining, where they pretty much depend on that road economically.
John M

climber
Apr 2, 2013 - 06:00pm PT
must really hate the people of Lee Vining, where they pretty much depend on that road economically.

unlikely that anyone hates anyone. More like people are unaware or just wistfully thinking about what if. The meadows without the hordes is awesome.

Another drought year. We have slightly more snow here in Yosemite then last year, but northern california is much lower then last year.
Mtbphoto

Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, Ca
Apr 2, 2013 - 06:58pm PT
I rode up to Tioga pass last week on my bike. To my surprise at the pass there were 2 rangers and I asked when they are going to start plowing. All they said was that there is some controversy and with the budget cuts, who knows.
10b4me

Ice climber
Happy Boulders
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 2, 2013 - 08:55pm PT
what was the snow coverage like?
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Apr 2, 2013 - 09:23pm PT
105 feet base, 12 feet packed pow,
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Apr 2, 2013 - 11:20pm PT
Rumor....TPR may open Memorial Day :DD
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 3, 2013 - 03:03am PT
It was revealed to me and Marcel on our ride to park headquarters last week with Ranger Mark, who's heart is gold and probably his beta, too, that dry years promote mosquito hordes, unlike wet years, which tend not to cause the little beeotches to procreate in such large numbers.

Billions. How repellent. Stay out of the Meadows this year. The crowds you prevent will thank you.

:)

Powder

Trad climber
the Flower Box
Apr 3, 2013 - 08:12am PT
Please let it be open early this season, say, the end of May!!

It'd be a great celebration of the removal of the metals out of my body. ~_~y
Mtbphoto

Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, Ca
Apr 3, 2013 - 04:02pm PT
Here the photos from my ride up the Tioga: http://imgur.com/a/vxtpK
Chris McNamara

SuperTopo staff member
Apr 3, 2013 - 08:38pm PT
The high was 56 today, that will melt some snow
Credit: Chris McNamara

http://mesowest.utah.edu/cgi-bin/droman/meso_base.cgi?stn=TUMC1
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Apr 3, 2013 - 09:40pm PT
After spending a couple years here on ST I'm pretty certain that serious Tacoides, female and male, are Nomads in real life or Nomads waiting to bust out from their "normal" lives.

I get the wonderful feeling that today many are poised and waiting to take off to the Valley, T. Meadows and many other incredible places in the Sierra like I am.

By Fall I know I'll be ready to migrate elsewhere. Maybe that's why I got a job at Nomads. Smiles, lynnie
10b4me

Ice climber
Happy Boulders
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 3, 2013 - 10:04pm PT
Mtbphoto, thanks for the pics
John M

climber
Apr 3, 2013 - 10:13pm PT
Thanks for the photos mtbphoto!
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Apr 3, 2013 - 10:22pm PT
We can only hope that the winter of 69 begins this thursday and keeps those stupid Americans on the west side from inter-breeding with the hateful Lee Viningites and their brine shrimp psychosis...
khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
Apr 3, 2013 - 10:27pm PT
Yeah man, Mtbphoto the pics are great!
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Apr 3, 2013 - 10:35pm PT
Mtbphoto, just got my computer to upload them. Thanks for taking the time to load them. Awesome. Looks like TPR still needs a shovel or two. Cheers, lynne
QITNL

climber
Apr 3, 2013 - 11:14pm PT
Yeah, thanks for the shots. Here's a set of mine from last weekend:
http://www.qitnl.com/v/032913/

I was going to ski out to Glacier Point but ran out of snow halfway. Another couple of weeks that road will be solid pavement. The notch between Liberty Cap & Mt Broderick is all melted out, just a couple of patches of snow that are easily avoided, I put some footprints on what's left.

Read this on yosemitenews.info, seems to correspond with what I was looking at:

Results for the April snow survey show that the Merced River basin snowpack is at 53% of average while the Tuolumne River basin is at 52% of average for this time of year. Last year, the Merced was at 47% while the Tuolumne was at 43%, but the distribution of snow is much different this year. Last year, the snowpack was fairly consistently about 45% of average at all surveyed elevations. This year, the snowpack is about 70% of average down to around 8,000 feet, but drops off substantially below that. So, those early-June high-elevation backpacking trips that might have been possible last year will probably be much snowier this year.
Slabspec

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Apr 4, 2013 - 03:13pm PT
Does anyone know how you go about volunteering to go up and help clear the Tioga Road?
John M

climber
Apr 11, 2013 - 09:22pm PT
Looks like we will need volunteers. Dang!

http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/tioga.htm

Last update: April 11, 2013

National Park Service road crews will assess the Tioga Road on or about April 15, however, the current plan is to begin plowing on May 15. With the mild winter, we're optimistic the Tioga and Glacier Point Roads may open by Memorial Day weekend (May 25-27)

Anyone know if this is because they aren't hiring summer staff?
bearbnz

Trad climber
East Side, California
Apr 11, 2013 - 09:34pm PT
The Mono County Board of Supervisors voted last week to use County employees and equipment to help clear the road up to the gate and into the park from the east side, so I hope they don't wait that long.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Apr 11, 2013 - 09:36pm PT
Does anyone know how you go about volunteering to go up and help clear the Tioga Road?

Just buy a couple peices of equipment and work at night.

No problem.




WBraun

climber
Apr 11, 2013 - 09:43pm PT
the current plan is to begin plowing on May 15.

Yep that's what's happening.

If you want it open earlier start shoveling.

What!!!!

You're all lazy Americans too????

bit'er ol' guy

climber
the past
Apr 11, 2013 - 11:34pm PT
nothin to do in cali but sit around and wait for the pass to open. its like all the skiers rushin out first week of nov jonesing to ruin their skiis. Then in april (corn) they're at a loss of what to do until the pass opens. worse is they're upset at the gubberment for not plowing the road for them. Looks like some of the people posting on this fourm do know how to have some fun without a ski lift or a snow plow-good for you!
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Apr 12, 2013 - 12:11am PT
I plan on shoveling the 15th....Sh#t that is...
Chris McNamara

SuperTopo staff member
Apr 15, 2013 - 10:42pm PT
From twitter @sierrawave: Alpers works to open Tioga by Memorial Day http://t.co/dVdBPcpHLP
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Apr 16, 2013 - 12:44am PT
That's what I heard, Chris. Joy filled to be living in Tioga Pass one more year. What an incredible place to find your life on the planet.

Cheers to all who make it happen at TPR. :)
TMJesse

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
Apr 16, 2013 - 12:52am PT
At 7AM PDT today, TM Campground blocks opened up on www.recreation.gov/ "I got mine," as they say. . . .
Chris Brent

Trad climber
San Francisco
Apr 16, 2013 - 01:15pm PT
They opened up for August 15 through September though...... right? pre July 15 is stil an X ("unavailable") for me.
QITNL

climber
Apr 16, 2013 - 01:49pm PT
Thanks for the heads up, TM - I totally forgot the date. There are still spots open the weekends following Labor Day if anyone is interested. And there was one of those big snowplows pictured above parked at Crane Flat yesterday.
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Apr 16, 2013 - 08:30pm PT
My networks of East Side spies reports of a lot of chatter lately. Virginia Lakes opened today; Tioga might open to the gate on Friday. This intel has not yet been confirmed.
mike a.

Sport climber
ca
Apr 16, 2013 - 09:31pm PT
that sucks, i going to the eastide wed night tomorrow :-(, but maybe the ride home the pass will be open :-).
hossjulia

Trad climber
Where the Hoback and the mighty Snake River meet
Apr 16, 2013 - 09:43pm PT
"Tioga might open to the gate" Means the road will just be open another 7.8 miles to the Tioga entrance station. From the eastside.

That would be something if 120 opened all the way across in April.
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Apr 16, 2013 - 09:49pm PT
FWIW.....6" of snow fell here in June Lake today....much more on Tioga.

I'd venture there is a foot at the gate.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 16, 2013 - 10:10pm PT
It's worth seven at Tioga? Mas?
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Apr 16, 2013 - 11:56pm PT
Long before there is climbing access, there is ski access to consider.
Beyr

climber
Apr 20, 2013 - 02:35pm PT
Plowing of the glacier point road will begin on Monday.
Plowing of tioga pass will start on the 29th.
http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/tioga.htm
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Apr 20, 2013 - 05:17pm PT
From the gate yesterday, the road was plowed as far as the eye can see.
Chris McNamara

SuperTopo staff member
Apr 20, 2013 - 05:28pm PT
according to this link, there is no snow left at the Tuolumne Meadows weather station http://mesowest.utah.edu/cgi-bin/droman/meso_base.cgi?stn=TUMC1
Chris McNamara

SuperTopo staff member
Apr 20, 2013 - 05:32pm PT
Ski conditions as of 4.17 http://www.nps.gov/yose/blogs/tmconditions.htm
khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
Apr 20, 2013 - 05:42pm PT
Mid-50s and low 60s next week in the Meadows.

So I suppose my guess of April 25 is out, but it's fer sure gonna be before Memorial Day.
Hoots

climber
Toyota Tacoma
Apr 20, 2013 - 06:11pm PT
Just skied False White this morning. Good corn, a bit of wind hammered stuff up high but easy to spot and avoid. It is sure looking dry up there!
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Apr 20, 2013 - 06:47pm PT
T-shirt weather at the Pass yesterday/today.
Mtbphoto

Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, Ca
Apr 20, 2013 - 10:29pm PT
I did a trans-Sierra ski over the tioga road this week. From tioga pass to may lake rd I only walked a total of about 1 mile of dry pavement, but the snow is going fast. I'll have photos soon!
khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
Apr 20, 2013 - 11:43pm PT
Can't wait!
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Apr 20, 2013 - 11:56pm PT
Khanom, I can hardly contain myself. So looking forward to the Sierra. I'm gearing up for this summer ..... my own crash pad, bear container and to make life a lot easier some wheels for my kayak so I don't have to carry it down to the lakes and back up again. Ahhhhhh, life iz gut! :D lynnie
bearbnz

Trad climber
East Side, California
Apr 21, 2013 - 05:52pm PT
The Sierra Wave is reporting that "Word came out Friday that the pass is now ôanticipatedö to open May 11th." Whoa Nellie will open April 26th. Not sure of the status of Sonora Pass, but it almost always opens before Tioga.

http://www.sierrawave.net/24345/tioga-pass-anticipated/
Michelle

Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
Apr 21, 2013 - 05:59pm PT
Can't wait for my lobster taquitos!
Dapper Dan

Trad climber
Menlo Park
Apr 21, 2013 - 07:15pm PT
Monitor is open... Won't be long for the others .
khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
Apr 21, 2013 - 08:29pm PT
Uh oh, I better start biking more or I'll never make it alive.

I have this idea that when it opens just for bikes I'll make a 2-3 day trip of it.

Edit: Hey, can someone remind me of where the bike opening is announced again?
John M

climber
Apr 21, 2013 - 08:41pm PT
http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/tioga.htm

Last update: April 19, 2013

Glacier Point Road: Plowing begins April 22.

Tioga Road: Plowing begins April 29.

Bicycles may be allowed on one or both roads, depending on road conditions, Fridays through Sundays after plowing begins. The decision to open either or both roads to bicycles will be made on each Friday and will be posted here.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Apr 21, 2013 - 08:45pm PT
Once open I think I ought to take a trip to Bishop and make a stop at MoMart for a decent meal.


Life will be good again someday soon.
ruppell

climber
Apr 21, 2013 - 08:46pm PT
Life's good every day jingy. Having that pass open makes life awesome.
QITNL

climber
Apr 23, 2013 - 06:44pm PT
May 3 for Glacier Point and May 11 for Tioga, says here:

http://www.kcet.org/living/travel/socal_wanderer/national-park/tioga-pass-road-opening-2013.html

Opening weekend was Mother's Day last year.
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Apr 23, 2013 - 08:03pm PT
Per Mono County Board of Supervisors.....confirming the previous post....

Saturday, May 11th.....though it was mentioned it could be as soon as the 9th.
phylp

Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
Apr 23, 2013 - 08:09pm PT
May 11!!! That would be so fantastic.
Cragman, DD and I will both be over there (travelling separately), for about a week around M-Day. Perhaps we'll connect at some point?
Phyl
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Apr 23, 2013 - 08:10pm PT
phylp...come on by!!!!!!!!!!

:D
Mtbphoto

Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, Ca
Apr 23, 2013 - 09:32pm PT
So I did the Tioga Road Trans-Sierra last week. Took me 2 days from the gate at the bottom of the pass to the Mirror Lake bus stop. I had a great time, and I couldn't ask for better snow!

Of the about 20 miles of road I skied, I only had to walk about a mile total, due to lack of snow. I had to ski/walk across short sections of pavement a few times. I skied down the Snow Creek trail for maybe 2 miles or so, then had to put the skis away and hike the rest of the way. Walking down the Snow Creek trail did a number on my knees!

Heres an album of photos from the trip: http://imgur.com/a/iaI5w

I went back up the pass today (much better driving up the open road!) and skied Gaylor peak, snow was great, but my knees need a break!
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Apr 23, 2013 - 09:53pm PT
Nice pics guy...I did that route on my sprint sticks many moons ago...
skied under a full moon then bivied in a tree well then made it to the valley the next day...hitched a ride back with chuckles and cosmos ...RJ
John M

climber
Apr 23, 2013 - 10:09pm PT
Awesome.. thanks for the photos.


I couldn't tell from the pics, but whats the snow load at olmstead point above the road?
Mtbphoto

Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, Ca
Apr 23, 2013 - 10:11pm PT
Snow load above Olmstead was pretty much nothing, no slide danger, although just east of Olmstead there was some snow in the trees, but I wouldn't say there is avy danger to the road there.
QITNL

climber
Apr 23, 2013 - 10:22pm PT
Thanks for the shots, that looks like a fun trip. Yeah, Olmstead looks good to go.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 23, 2013 - 10:27pm PT
Open it......all you get is slabs and mosquitos.
khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
Apr 23, 2013 - 11:06pm PT
Mtbphoto, great pics!

Clearly, that's by far the best way to be in Tuolumne. I really need to get skis.
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Apr 23, 2013 - 11:23pm PT
Seeing you all soon :D

Jingy, email me please sir, so we can perhaps make plans to get together with friends anywhere from TPR to Bishop. Cheers, Lynnie
TMJesse

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
Apr 23, 2013 - 11:25pm PT
An awesome TR Mtbphoto, Thanks.
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Apr 24, 2013 - 01:07am PT
The day after THIS, some of us went and skied this:

Coming up on the entrance to Solstice
Coming up on the entrance to Solstice
Credit: Willoughby
from the plateau
from the plateau
Credit: My friend's instagram

Several pushed on to endure sketchy refreeze for the power station shot. Others took on a surprisingly bony-looking Ellery. I decided to cruise some creamy turns back to the car and catch a little me time with the hubcap while I waited to deal with the car shuttling shenanigans.

Credit: Willoughby

A glorious day spent along a glorious bit of road.
Fletcher

Trad climber
The great state of advaita
Apr 24, 2013 - 11:45am PT
Superb photos mtbphoto and willoughby. Thanks!

Sumer is icumen in,
Lhude sing cuccu!
Growe■ sed and blowe■ med
And spring■ ■e wde nu,
Sing cuccu!
Awe blete■ after lomb,
Lhou■ after calue cu.
Bulluc sterte■, bucke uerte■,
Murie sing cuccu!
Cuccu, cuccu, wel singes ■u cuccu;
Ne swik ■u nauer nu.
Sing cuccu nu. Sing cuccu.
Sing cuccu. Sing cuccu nu!

And for those of you not fluent in Middle English (where's a Hobbit when you need one?):

Summer has come in,
Loudly sing, Cuckoo!
The seed grows and the meadow
blooms
And the wood springs anew,
Sing, Cuckoo!
The ewe bleats after the lamb
The cow lows after the calf.
The bullock stirs, the stag farts,
Merrily sing, Cuckoo!
Cuckoo, cuckoo, well you sing,
cuckoo;
Don't ever you stop now,
Sing cuckoo now. Sing, Cuckoo.
Sing Cuckoo. Sing cuckoo now!


Well, summer is probably taking it's good damn time up there! Fun anytime of the year.

Eric
QITNL

climber
Apr 24, 2013 - 03:34pm PT
SR 108 IS REOPENED FROM 26.4 MI EAST OF STRAWBERRY (TUOLUMNE CO) TO 5.3 MI WEST OF THE JCT OF US 395 /SONORA PASS/ (MONO CO) AT 1200 HRS ON 4/25/13
http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/roadinfo/display.php?page=sr108
willm

Social climber
Oakland
Apr 24, 2013 - 05:57pm PT
^ What does it mean?!
QITNL

climber
Apr 24, 2013 - 06:22pm PT
Chris Brent

Trad climber
San Francisco
Apr 25, 2013 - 01:35pm PT
If 120 opens May 11 how long does it take for the Meadows campground to open?
Chris McNamara

SuperTopo staff member
Apr 25, 2013 - 01:40pm PT
I think campground opening to humans is usually at lease a few weeks after the road opens. Mosquito opening generally late June but this year could be earlier.
QITNL

climber
Apr 25, 2013 - 01:59pm PT
Last year the Tioga Road opened May 7 & TM campground opened June 8.
Dapper Dan

Trad climber
Menlo Park
Apr 25, 2013 - 02:12pm PT
I remember heading up there soon after May 7th last year . I hiked out to Waterwheel Falls , the trail was a soggy mess, but it was spectacular to see the falls so early in the season... no people.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Apr 25, 2013 - 04:20pm PT
Just got a notice that the Park has officially stated it plans to open 120 by May 11th. Maybe old news but welcome I'm sure.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 25, 2013 - 07:49pm PT
It's in the paper, so it must be true.

Credit: mouse from merced
Credit: mouse from merced

AND...




GLACIER POINT ROAD is opening TOMORROW.
▀ ╬ ě T ă H

Social climber
May 6, 2013 - 12:40am PT
QITNL, I saw that on the caltrans sign leaving Bishop yesterday. What - no thread of it's own?
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
May 6, 2013 - 07:01am PT
Thundershowers here all week....it actually snowed up on the Pass the last two days, but nothing much to speak of accumulated on the road.

It's going to be an amazing opener....with the week of moisture, Tuolumne is going to smell like heaven!
Adamame

climber
Santa Cruz
May 6, 2013 - 10:20am PT
I wouldn't be surprised if the park gets bitten in the ass by announcing the opening weeks in advance. The weather looks a little uncertain this week and could put a damper on th party.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
May 6, 2013 - 10:35am PT
Today at 6:30 in Merced.  Weather's stable.  Just looks worse than it ...
Today at 6:30 in Merced. Weather's stable. Just looks worse than it is.
Credit: mouse from merced
It is 63 degrees and warming.
em kn0t

Trad climber
isle of wyde
May 6, 2013 - 02:35pm PT
Tioga Lake 5pm May 5
Tioga Lake 5pm May 5
Credit: em kn0t

Road Closed (but only by cones... the gate was wide open)
Road Closed (but only by cones... the gate was wide open)
Credit: em kn0t

Thin coverage, but fun skiing a little way up the meadow.  <br/>
&#40;Road...
Thin coverage, but fun skiing a little way up the meadow.
(Road? We don' need no steenkin' road!)
Credit: em kn0t
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
May 6, 2013 - 10:00pm PT
Just got a message from my Boss. Planning to open Tioga Pass Resort for Memorial Weekend barring a freak storm. Be up there around 19th. Cheers and packing.....lynnie

Edit: Thanks for the pics Em, see ya Soon :DD
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
May 7, 2013 - 11:55pm PT
Packing Up My Dreams.....and getting ready to roll. Takes a bit of tho...
Packing Up My Dreams.....and getting ready to roll. Takes a bit of thought to be gone for 4 months +.
Credit: LL LL


Finished washing and UV'ing the kayaks. Ready to load them up and thin...
Finished washing and UV'ing the kayaks. Ready to load them up and thinking about my two favorite areas Tenaya and Mono Lakes.
Credit: LL LL


Heard from a friend in Lee Vining it was spitting some snow this morning, low clouds and fog. Anyone else hear how the pass fared today?


TMJesse

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
May 8, 2013 - 12:07am PT
Lake Tuloumne
Lake Tuloumne
Credit: TMJesse
Opening day, 1986. TimidTR & I found an arrowhead and an old coin at Budd Creek.
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
May 8, 2013 - 12:13am PT
Beautiful, TM Jesse. Lake Tuolumne 2011 was nearly kayaked by myself......wonder what it's looking like today. Any picures people? Thanks again Em Knott for your Tioga Lake pic. Can't wait to arrive. Cheers, l.
ClumsyClimber

Mountain climber
Davis Ca
May 8, 2013 - 12:22am PT
Climbed the Dana couloir on Saturday. Got a nice view. But seems like they closed the road to the gates again.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/95333299@N02/8710810146/
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
May 8, 2013 - 12:53am PT
Beautiful and Awesome photo. Thanks for it. So there may be snow when I get there @ 17-20th of May. Throwing my gaiters back in the pack.
Walleye

climber
The Hot Kiss on the end of a Wet Fist
May 8, 2013 - 01:04am PT
Hey Risk, I thought it was some old budd at Coin Creek..
TMJesse

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
May 8, 2013 - 01:40am PT
The Budd wuzz left at Tecoya. The coin was from 06' when things were really shakin, and we weren't that old back then. Or were we?
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
May 8, 2013 - 04:07am PT
Lynne, the Pass got dusted with snow yesterday...so pretty!

More of the same today and tomorrow....nothing that will effect the timing of the opening on Saturday....and with all the moisture up here, everything smells GLORIOUS!

See you soon!

:D
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
May 8, 2013 - 04:43am PT
[edit:] OK, cool, the 1888 also looks about the same (when it was pretty new):
Timid TopRope

Social climber
'used to be Paradise, CA
May 8, 2013 - 02:04pm PT
I'm pretty sure that penny I found was dated around 1888 or so. Pretty sure it fell out of a hole in John Muir's pocket. Don't know what happened to it but that arrowhead that TMJesse found was almost like a spear point.
TMJesse

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
May 8, 2013 - 10:46pm PT
It was a grayish-green and big arrowhead made of chert; probably 3-1/2 or 4 inches long. I turned it in because it was obviously going to be found (near the parking lot). The NPS archaeologist said it was a minimum of 600-years old, predating most everything of what's normally found around there.
Fluoride

Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
May 8, 2013 - 11:04pm PT
Lynnie, we're heading up on the 17th for a long weekend, we'll stop by the TPR to say hi. Will be great to see you...and the meadows again.
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
May 8, 2013 - 11:23pm PT
Beth, miss you, even tho we don't connect that much.....mostly due to me working to much and not getting out to JTree as much as I desire.

Please, let's connect this summer. A climb, hike or overnight backpack. Steve's invited too. I have lots of gear. :D Really mean it. Please keep in touch.

Cheers and Peace, lynnie.

PS, Do you have my cell? If not I will email it to you.
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
May 12, 2013 - 01:08am PT
So you EastSide lovers of the incredible, quiet beauty....DID it open? lynnie
Gary Carpenter

climber
SF Bay Area
May 12, 2013 - 02:10am PT
yes
WML

climber
Edge of the Electric Ocean Beneath Red Rock
May 12, 2013 - 01:30pm PT
More pics!!!! Amped to head back up in that neck of the woods in June with my Dad. And then back again with friends.

As the heat here in Southern Nevada gets turned up to 10, I'm getting more and more excited for cool alpine lakes, flawless granite, beautiful puffy clouds, and that blue, blue sky....oh and the MoMart!
WML

climber
Edge of the Electric Ocean Beneath Red Rock
May 12, 2013 - 04:02pm PT
Thanks for sharing Dean. Amped to break out the Tenaya lake lahlayback soon!
PAUL SOUZA

Trad climber
Central Valley, CA
May 12, 2013 - 09:32pm PT
What peak is that behind the dome?
bearbnz

Trad climber
East Side, California
May 12, 2013 - 09:36pm PT
The very remote Cathedral Peak
TMJesse

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
May 12, 2013 - 09:37pm PT
Cathedral Peak is the higher one. Eichorn pinnacle is the lower one to the right.
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
May 12, 2013 - 10:04pm PT
Experiened ones, does that look like there's still snow on the descent from Cathedral? [Edit: thanks, khanom.]
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
May 12, 2013 - 10:36pm PT
Just checking, I was pretty close, predicted May 15, but the Tioga Pass opened today, May 12. Not to bad for a greenhorn.....:D

Edit: Cragman, yeah, thanks for the pic and the post!
khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
May 12, 2013 - 10:57pm PT
Murcy, yes but it looks completely ok. Rather pathetic for May, actually. You can traverse over to the notch at any point... or descend straight down to climbers right of Eichorn... or take the 4th class (-) gully to the left of the SE butt. Many options.
drunkenmaster

Social climber
santa rosa
May 13, 2013 - 06:08pm PT
Toulumne Bouldering is on!! https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=513375355377418&set=a.156902234358067.26538.138795446168746&type=1&theater

http://www.supertopo.com/packs/tuolumne-bouldering.html

Carlo Traversi fires up the "Golden Rastafarian" &#40;V6&#41;. <br/>
Carlo Traversi fires up the "Golden Rastafarian" (V6).

Credit: James Hosler
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
May 13, 2013 - 11:47pm PT
Saturday, seven p.m., Mariposa.
Saturday, seven p.m., Mariposa.
Credit: mouse from merced
rwedgee

Ice climber
canyon country,CA
May 14, 2013 - 12:07am PT
From the amount of snow, or actually lack of snow, the pass should have been open a while ago. Olmstead was bare, bone dry, nothing. What gives ?
khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
May 14, 2013 - 12:53am PT
What gives ?

Depends. Who did you vote for in 2004 and 2008?


Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
May 14, 2013 - 01:58am PT
Nice.
QITNL

climber
May 14, 2013 - 02:44am PT
Just got home from Young Lakes/Conness. Interesting conditions.

Below 8600 ft, there's very little snow. Plowing didn't take much work. TM Campground is pretty dry. About as snow-free as I've ever seen it on opening day.

Go up another 500-1000 feet and conditions change pretty quickly. Up high, this is as much snow as I've ever seen on opening day, going back 5 odd years.

It's shaping up into a nice bed of Sierra cement but I'm glad I brought my snowshoes.
John M

climber
May 14, 2013 - 03:06am PT
Here is hoping that some people will post pictures. I may not be able to get up there for a few weeks.
QITNL

climber
May 14, 2013 - 04:30am PT
Why post pictures of mountains on a political forum?

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Charlie D.

Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
May 14, 2013 - 07:59am PT
Does any know if Junction Camp Ground, behind the TPR is open ???
Adamame

climber
Santa Cruz
May 14, 2013 - 11:12am PT
Negative on the Junction Campground.
sneville

climber
May 14, 2013 - 01:40pm PT
QITNL so that was your snow shoe track coming down from ragged peak? When did you go Friday? I went up Saturday to Young lakes to attempt Conness but like you said the conditions were tough and made it hard to find the trail. A lot more snow than I thought and I was glad to have snow shoes. Nice pictures.

Sean
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
May 15, 2013 - 12:02am PT
QITNL, I have limited room in my van to bring what I will use for the next 4 months. Should I bring my snowshoes and gaiters? Thanks for all you info, Dude. :D Cheers, L.
QITNL

climber
May 15, 2013 - 12:43am PT
Sean, yeah, that might have been my track. I headed up Saturday as well. I ditched the trail at Dingley Creek and went over the pass; at the bottom of the col, hung a right to upper Young Lake. Crossed a few random tracks over the next couple of days, some might have been yours. I hope too many folks don't follow mine! But they will be gone in a flash.

I didn't tag the summit of Conness, though I could have thrown a rock at it. My boot prints end right here, the next 10 feet was pretty sketch. A couple thousand feet down on either side and no room to self-arrest.

5-11-13
5-11-13
Credit: QITNL

Call me a wimp if you want but that is my Happy Mother's Day! shot. I gotta rig up some kinda lightweight self-belay kit.

Lynne, I'd bring gaiters, they are small & I'm a gaiter kinda guy, I hate getting snow and crap in my boots. Snowshoes you might not need after the next couple of weeks; the snow that's left should be nicely compacted.

I love it up there this time of year, a little window where it's an alpine environment. No crowds and no skeeters and snow makes for pleasant travel if you are into it.
sneville

climber
May 15, 2013 - 01:16am PT
QITNL,
Once we made it to young lake we looked at Conness and thought it might be scary with the snow right near the summit. It seems like both of us made a good decision to not go to the top. I hope no one follows our path because we lost the trail several times when you break out of the trees. Such a nice weekend up there. Thanks for the pictures.

Sean
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
May 15, 2013 - 11:19pm PT
QITNL, Thanks for the beta. :D Today was last day at work. Tomorrow errands and goodbyes and then pack and I'm off to Adventure Land. So much more prepared this year. Jazzed to be hitting the water, rock and trails. lynne
rwedgee

Ice climber
canyon country,CA
May 15, 2013 - 11:47pm PT
khanom



What gives ?

"Depends. Who did you vote for in 2004 and 2008?"

Really ?? I'm the guy who works and pays taxes, lots of them. I'm not sucking it up in my van behind the Mobil 4 months and the 8 lounging in the desert claiming to minimize my carbon footprint. Bums don't pay taxes.




PeteC

climber
May 15, 2013 - 11:53pm PT
Credit: PeteC

So happy to be back in the meadows!
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
May 15, 2013 - 11:53pm PT
rwedgee, I have paid mega taxes in my life. Then ran into the Perfect Storm of Life and was pulled into a quiet harbor to rethink it all.

I saw life one way when I was a workaholic pulling down the bucks. The Perfect Storm put me a place to think, ponder and reconsider.

Bottom line to me: Don't judge. Live how you choose but don't judge those that don't make your same life decisions.

And khanom, all of us think differently. You don't know who he voted for. And frankly, no matter who you vote for (there could be some exceptions we don't know about)they aren't going to carry out the platform(s) you voted them in for. This applies to pretty much all parties. Just my observations.

I'll probably be sorry I posted such a dogmatic one. Every once in a while I get a "wild hair". :D

Edit: But you are both (hopefully) my SuperTopo Friends.
DickMcfartin

Ice climber
soewhere over the rainbow....
May 16, 2013 - 12:00am PT
rwedgee:

If i make 10g's a year and can live off it i pay 10K's worth of taxes. If you need more you get more stuff and pay more taxes.

Simple stuff really ;)

You don't like it you don't like Merica..
khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
May 16, 2013 - 12:04am PT
rwedgee, you complain about the pass not opening earlier. If you are complaining about government inefficiency, I'm very much with you there. But you sound very much like the sort who protests "big government" and then complains about government-run entities not meeting your standards.

Just so you are clear on this: Yes, I took some time off from paying 33+ percent of my very hard-earned income to the government so we could fight foreign wars and finance the corporate elite, but for the past couple of years or so I've been a small business owner, striving to make ends meet in an over-regulated anti-startup environment. Today I only worked 10 hours. Yesterday I worked 14. Suck it, bitch. Wanna buy some spinach?

But that aside, if you wonder why National Parks aren't funded sufficiently, do you really think it has to do ONLY with government waste?


I didn't mean to add politics to this thread, I only felt I had to respond. Can we agree to let it go and just enjoy the beauty that is the high country?
John M

climber
May 16, 2013 - 12:25am PT
Thanks for the pics QITNL!!! Anyone have anymore? What does the meadow look like? What about Tenaya? . I'm jonesing to get up there but I'm dealing with an infection right now.

Wheres Ed? He usually goes up opening weekend.
Powder

Trad climber
the Flower Box
May 16, 2013 - 12:35am PT
Yes, more pictures, please : D

I could use some distractions and the images of the High Country would be pretty good ones.
...thought only broken bone hurts, but apparently the pains from the surgery removing those metals out of your body hurt almost just as much... Ok that might be a bit exaggerating, but ouch no less. @_@ >_<
Fluoride

Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
May 16, 2013 - 12:50am PT
Yes more pics please! Am heading up there Friday. So excited. Never miss an opening weekend but it was Mother's Day so I'm coming up there now.

And no one rag on Lynne. She's living the friggin dream. Working in Tuolumne 4 months a year then working at a climbing shop down south the next 8 months. She's got life dialed as far as I'm concerned. And one hell of an awesome lady who I'm so stoked to see this weekend.
QITNL

climber
May 16, 2013 - 01:51am PT
The meadow is fairly dry, not the usual swamp/lake. Tenaya is dry at the base, still holds a fair amount of snow up high. There's a big snow drift at the base of Pywiack and some on top. It will be a few more weeks for most north-facing routes to dry up. If you're headed up to the high country, expect some postholing and wading across creeks.

Here are some more shots, there are more here
http://www.qitnl.com/v/051113/
and more to come when I work through what I got.

Seems kinda pointless but I'm glad a few of you are interested in this stuff.

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-Joe
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
May 16, 2013 - 01:52am PT
Fluoride,

Yeah, more pics.

Hoping to see you friend Beth. Let's spend some time gabbing at one of the peaks or creeks. That would be good.

I don't think life is ever dialed cause the fine tuning gets a little crazy. I'm blessed to work at something I really care about....the planet and people.

So, Yikes, hope I get my shy together so I get up there this weekend. Plans are for Sat or Sun. So jazzed. The yurts are up but electricity a little on/off at this point. Still looking for TPR to open Memorial.

Want to climb some. Peace and love, lynnie
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
May 16, 2013 - 02:23am PT
QITNL, thanks for taking the time to post those awesome, inspirational pics.
Takes my breath away. Again, Thanks!!!
Fluoride

Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
May 16, 2013 - 02:41am PT
QITNL/joe that wasn't pointless at all. That was amazing. Thanks for the pics!!
Powder

Trad climber
the Flower Box
May 16, 2013 - 03:44am PT
Thank you for sharing these beautiful photos!! *^_^*

They really did make my night better. I now can go to sleep with a smile on my face, dreaming about this amazing playground! = )
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
May 16, 2013 - 10:09am PT
Hoping to spend quite a bit of time there this year :) Lynne we gotta climb conness!
10b4me

Ice climber
Soon 2B Arizona
Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2013 - 10:30am PT
I didn't tag the summit of Conness, though I could have thrown a rock at it. My boot prints end right here, the next 10 feet was pretty sketch. A couple thousand feet down on either side and no room to self-arrest.

Yeah, there is that one spot, just below the summit, that is pretty narrow.
QITNL

climber
May 16, 2013 - 03:01pm PT
I'm thinking of wandering around the Cathedral Peak area this weekend. If any of you might be up there, give a holler.

phylp

Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
May 17, 2013 - 12:00am PT
Counting the days til I get across to the east side again! It's amazing to have the pass open so early. I know it would be better to have the snowpack but being able to get over there is the silver lining.
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
May 17, 2013 - 02:14am PT
Greg Davis, Yes Conness and Cathedral....maybe QITNL might want to tag along on Cathedral.

Greg, did you get the package i mailed to you at Idyllwild???
Fluoride

Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
May 17, 2013 - 04:29am PT
QITNL I'll likely be around Stately Pleasure Dome and Daff Dome this weekend for opening season reasons (West Country has been my first route of the season for 8 years now, West Crack as soon as possible to avoid the mid-season crowds. Blown Away instead if it's not too windy but it's supposed to be breezy this weekend). Probably Little Sheba, Galen's Crack (can't wait!!) and the first pitch of Hoodwink for good measure.

Holler if you see me...always nice to see another ST brethren up there in person. I look the same as my pic on my posts.
▀ ╬ ě T ă H

climber
May 18, 2013 - 01:06am PT
Today
Credit: ▀ ╬ ě T ă H
Credit: ▀ ╬ ě T ă H
Credit: ▀ ╬ ě T ă H
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
May 19, 2013 - 11:56am PT
I'm heading up in just a bit. Please remember me in your thoughts and prayers. Long Drive. Lots to contemplate. Peace, Lynne
looks easy from here

climber
Ben Lomond, CA
May 19, 2013 - 11:23pm PT
Poked my head in here to ask about snow on Clouds Rest, and I see that ▀ ╬ ě T ă H's picture has already answered it for me. Thanks!
Fluoride

Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
May 21, 2013 - 02:17pm PT
Here's some pics from Tuolumne this past weekend 5/18-19:

Third Pillar of Dana on the right heading up the 120 from the 395.
Third Pillar of Dana on the right heading up the 120 from the 395.
Credit: Fluoride

Tioga Lake level is low but a little better than this time last year.
Tioga Lake level is low but a little better than this time last year.
Credit: Fluoride

There's water in the meadows.
There's water in the meadows.
Credit: Fluoride

Fairview Dome.  P1 of the RR looks to have a snow base up to about hal...
Fairview Dome. P1 of the RR looks to have a snow base up to about half of it. That was the level it was last July when we did it. People are getting on it already.
Credit: Fluoride

A longer view of Conness.
A longer view of Conness.
Credit: Fluoride

Medlicott is melting out fast.
Medlicott is melting out fast.
Credit: Fluoride

Laine

Trad climber
Reno, NV
May 21, 2013 - 02:51pm PT
Here is some shots of Ellery Bowl 5-19-13
"Tioga" Joe approaching with Ellery Lake in the background
"Tioga" Joe approaching with Ellery Lake in the background
Credit: Laine
Looking up Chute Out, Ellery Bowl Yose
Looking up Chute Out, Ellery Bowl Yose
Credit: Laine
hiking up Chute Out.
hiking up Chute Out.
Credit: Laine
Crampons and axes were needed up high.
Crampons and axes were needed up high.
Credit: Laine
Climbing Banana Chute
Climbing Banana Chute
Credit: Laine
QITNL

climber
May 21, 2013 - 05:17pm PT
Sorry to hear the hard time some folks have had around here the last few days. Thanks for the shots, everyone. I changed my plans and Saturday I headed up to Parker Pass, a couple passes south of Tioga. Real neat area, first time I ever explored it. Nice with all the snow, had it all to myself. I went up Koip Peak and came out via Spillway & Bingaman Lakes.

Some more shots here: http://www.qitnl.com/v/051813/

5-18-13
5-18-13
Credit: QITNL

5-18-13
5-18-13
Credit: QITNL

5-18-13
5-18-13
Credit: QITNL

5-18-13
5-18-13
Credit: QITNL

5-18-13
5-18-13
Credit: QITNL

5-18-13
5-18-13
Credit: QITNL

5-18-13
5-18-13
Credit: QITNL

5-18-13
5-18-13
Credit: QITNL

5-18-13
5-18-13
Credit: QITNL

5-18-13
5-18-13
Credit: QITNL

5-18-13
5-18-13
Credit: QITNL

5-18-13
5-18-13
Credit: QITNL
JOEY.F

Gym climber
It's not rocket surgery
May 23, 2013 - 10:47pm PT
Qintl, nice. Been a long time since I was up there... So those in the know... Any buzz on the Tuolumne cg opening date?
QITNL

climber
May 23, 2013 - 11:05pm PT
I'm not "in the know" but I can give you my best guess. Last year the Tioga Road opened the same date; the campground opened June 8. However after driving past it the last couple of weekends, I didn't see much progress; nor had they started assembling the store or the other facilities yet. So this year it could be another week or two. We'll see.

Also regarding openings:
The Reds Meadow Road will open on Saturday May 25 at 7:30 a.m. The mandatory shuttle bus will be running for Memorial Day weekend. Only ôexception vehiclesö will be allowed to drive into the Reds Meadow Valley.

After Memorial Day Weekend, the mandatory shuttle bus will not resume operation until June 22. From May 28 through June 21, the public may access the valley with their personal vehicles.
khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
May 24, 2013 - 12:22am PT
Love the photos... thanks QITNL!
looks easy from here

climber
Ben Lomond, CA
May 26, 2013 - 09:40pm PT
If anyone passes by Dozier Dome in the next couple weeks I'd love to hear the conditions of the face down by Errett Out and Bit by Bit. I'm hoping there won't be too much snowmelt for me to climb it when I'm up there next month.
WML

climber
Edge of the Electric Ocean Beneath Red Rock
May 28, 2013 - 01:50pm PT
Curiosity bump! Considering heading North the weekend of the 8th. Any pics or word as to what is and is not climbable in the Meadows? Summer temps are coming later this week...

That means it's time to drink beers on the Mo Mart grass...

W
QITNL

climber
Jun 3, 2013 - 04:39pm PT
Nothing to do with Tioga Pass, but I drove through it over the weekend to get to Mt Ritter and said howdy to Lynne at TPR on my way back.

Here's what that area is looking like:

Waller Minaret, Ritter Pass 06-01-13
Waller Minaret, Ritter Pass 06-01-13
Credit: QITNL

Mt Ritter 06-01-13
Mt Ritter 06-01-13
Credit: QITNL

Banner Peak, Thousand Island Lake 06-01-13
Banner Peak, Thousand Island Lake 06-01-13
Credit: QITNL

Cecile Lake, Minarets 06-01-13
Cecile Lake, Minarets 06-01-13
Credit: QITNL

Some more shots:
http://www.qitnl.com/v/060113/
Slideshow
khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
Jun 3, 2013 - 08:53pm PT
QITNL, once again you make my day. I'm stuck down here wanting to be up there. It's no substitute by any means, but it helps just a little to see the photos. Thanks!
2 l l

Sport climber
Rancho Verga, CA
Jun 3, 2013 - 11:40pm PT
Whoa Q. Epic dude.
John M

climber
Jun 3, 2013 - 11:56pm PT
Whoa Q. Epic dude.

Yep.. QINTL has definitely been seeing some country. Thanks everyone for sharing the pics.

Anyone got any beta on when TM campground is going to open? The goverments site just says June/July.
Chris Brent

Trad climber
San Francisco
Jun 4, 2013 - 01:03pm PT
Would guess the campsite will open on 6/21 based on last years road opening to campsite opening gap. I guess there's a chance of it being 6/14 but someone said the store isn't even up yet.
John M

climber
Jun 4, 2013 - 01:13pm PT
According to this the store and grill are open. There is another thread that says the visitor center is also open. I can't find that information on the government's site. Its pretty hard to wade through, and I have looked extensively.

http://yosemitenews.info/forum/read.php?3,66869
QITNL

climber
Jun 4, 2013 - 01:57pm PT
I drove past Sunday. The store and grill and visitor center are definitely open. The campground still looks desolate, maybe there's work going on behind the gate, I didn't venture in. No one has reported any problems, power and phone are on, everything is fairly dry. It opened June 8 last year. If it opens any later this year, I guess we could blame sequester or something.

Edit: It turns out all is well in this world, after all. Tuolumne Meadows Campground opens this Friday, June 7 2013. Reservations are now online at everyone's second-favorite website, recreation.gov, for dates between June 7 and July 11. Just got mine!
QITNL

climber
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:32am PT
Wow, never saw so many sites remain available online for so long....
Chris Brent

Trad climber
San Francisco
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:29pm PT
Shhhhh!!! Yeah about 2 hours after I made my prediction it opened. The same thing happened last year though. The site last a while, I think a couple of weeks!
looks easy from here

climber
Ben Lomond, CA
Jun 10, 2013 - 12:58am PT
My wife and I hit up Tuolumne this weekend with the intention of hiking Clouds Rest from Tenaya Lake Friday and then climbing on Saturday. We made it up Clouds Rest, but the bloodsuckers were the worst I've ever experienced and scared us off day two. I practically showered in DEET and I still have 86 bites (and counting-what appear to be single large bites keep resolving into multiple overlapping bites as the swelling goes down). Full disclosure, this is only my second Tuolumne summer, and we met some other hikers who claimed that the skeeters were't actually that bad yet. Yikes!
QITNL

climber
Jun 18, 2013 - 01:42am PT
Last weekend I went up Simmons Peak. You can see it from all over the park, but hardly anyone goes up there. Last year only two people signed the log book. Didn't use the axe and crampons so I guess it's officially summer.

Vogelsang HSC, Vogelsang Peak 06-15-13
Vogelsang HSC, Vogelsang Peak 06-15-13
Credit: QITNL

Simmons Peak, Mt Maclure, Peak 12053, Gallison Lake 06-15-13
Simmons Peak, Mt Maclure, Peak 12053, Gallison Lake 06-15-13
Credit: QITNL

Gallison Lake, Simmons Peak 06-15-13
Gallison Lake, Simmons Peak 06-15-13
Credit: QITNL

Mt Conness 06-15-13
Mt Conness 06-15-13
Credit: QITNL

Echo Ridge, Cathedral Peak 06-15-13
Echo Ridge, Cathedral Peak 06-15-13
Credit: QITNL

Matthes Crest, Tuolumne Peak 06-15-13
Matthes Crest, Tuolumne Peak 06-15-13
Credit: QITNL

Mt Lyell, Mt Maclure 06-15-13
Mt Lyell, Mt Maclure 06-15-13
Credit: QITNL

Mt Lyell 06-15-13
Mt Lyell 06-15-13
Credit: QITNL

Simmons Peak, unnamed lake 06-15-13
Simmons Peak, unnamed lake 06-15-13
Credit: QITNL

Peak 12053, Peak 11998, unnamed lake at sunset 06-15-13
Peak 12053, Peak 11998, unnamed lake at sunset 06-15-13
Credit: QITNL

Parsons Peak, Simmons Peak, unnamed lake at sunset 06-15-13
Parsons Peak, Simmons Peak, unnamed lake at sunset 06-15-13
Credit: QITNL

Obelisk Pinnacles, Mt Clark 06-15-13
Obelisk Pinnacles, Mt Clark 06-15-13
Credit: QITNL

More here
or
Slideshow

Next weekend a nice relaxing weekend with my girlfriend in the Meadows for the full moon/solstice!
TMJesse

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
Nov 15, 2013 - 12:38am PT
The East Arete of Simmons looks pretty fun. Once coming over the Lyell/Maclure saddle from Hutchins Basin, I contoured from below to Amelia Earhart Peak and found it to be an incredibly casual stroll along a gentle ledge that included a stop at "Inkwell Lake." Oddly, there were bear tracks up there.

Credit: TMJesse

"Inkwell Lake"
"Inkwell Lake"
Credit: TMJesse
Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Nov 15, 2013 - 12:42am PT
That's a cool view of Matthes in that series of images above

Hey TM I'll go wander around with you next summer if you can come on down before Aug.

It's been too long!
RyanD

climber
Squamish
Nov 15, 2013 - 01:57am PT
Yeah! Thanks for the bump Jesse! Some super shots above, those views of cathedral range are amazing.
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Nov 15, 2013 - 02:00am PT
QITNL, FANTASTIC! Cheers, lynnie
Dapper Dan

Trad climber
Menlo Park
Nov 15, 2013 - 10:25am PT
A few photos from Vetran's Day weekend in Tuolumne...

Tuolumne River 11/10/13
Tuolumne River 11/10/13
Credit: Dapper Dan

Ice already taking hold , Tuolumne River , 11/10/13
Ice already taking hold , Tuolumne River , 11/10/13
Credit: Dapper Dan

Ellery Bowl
Ellery Bowl
Credit: Dapper Dan
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Nov 15, 2013 - 11:01am PT
Nice Dapper Dan!
DerekCan

climber
Nov 15, 2013 - 05:25pm PT
Descending Cathedral Peak this past Veteran's Day.
Descending Cathedral Peak this past Veteran's Day.
Credit: DerekCan

It was a great weekend to be in Yosemite, that's for sure!
bergbryce

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Nov 16, 2013 - 01:07pm PT
Semi-related....

Does anyone have any idea if the road to Saddlebag Lake is still open??
Wondering if I should take my bike tomorrow for N. Peak approach.


Edited to add: Should have asked google first!

http://www.monolake.org/today/roads

OPEN!!
cultureshock

Trad climber
Mountain View
Nov 21, 2013 - 04:21pm PT
Bump.

Guessing the road is closed now.

Any ideas if it will re-open by monday or are we done for the season?

 Luke
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Nov 21, 2013 - 05:49pm PT
currently:
Tioga
SR 120
[IN THE CENTRAL CALIFORNIA AREA & SIERRA NEVADA]
IS CLOSED FROM CRANE FLAT TO 5 MI WEST OF THE JCT OF US 395 /TIOGA PASS/
(TUOLUMNE, MONO CO) - DUE TO SNOW - MOTORISTS ARE ADVISED TO USE AN ALTERNATE
ROUTE

Sonora
SR 108
[IN THE CENTRAL CALIFORNIA AREA & SIERRA NEVADA]
IS CLOSED FROM 26.4 MI EAST OF STRAWBERRY (TUOLUMNE CO) TO 8 MI WEST OF THE
JCT OF US 395 (MONO CO) /SONORA PASS/ - DUE TO SNOW - MOTORISTS ARE ADVISED TO
USE AN ALTERNATE ROUTE

Ebbets
SR 4
[IN THE CENTRAL CALIFORNIA AREA]
IS CLOSED FROM 0.5 MI EAST OF THE JCT OF SR 207 /MT REBA TURNOFF/ TO THE
JCT OF SR 89 /EBBETTS PASS/ (ALPINE CO) - DUE TO SNOW - MOTORISTS ARE ADVISED
TO USE AN ALTERNATE ROUTE

This late in the season none are likely to reopen until next May or June.

Current California state highway conditions are always found here:
http://www.dot.ca.gov/cgi-bin/roads.cgi
Greg Barnes

climber
Nov 26, 2013 - 11:43pm PT
Looks like Sonora pass is open:

This highway information is the latest reported as of Tuesday, November 26, 2013 at 20:42 .


SR 108
[IN THE CENTRAL CALIFORNIA AREA & SIERRA NEVADA]
1-WAY CONTROLLED TRAFFIC AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS FROM 3.7 MI WEST OF THE
JCT OF US 395 TO THE JCT OF US 395 (MONO CO) FROM 0700 HRS TO 1800 HRS MONDAY
THRU FRIDAY THRU 12/6/13 - DUE TO PERMIT WORK - MOTORISTS ARE SUBJECT TO
DELAYS OF UP TO 20 MINUTES
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