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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Mar 10, 2013 - 02:36pm PT
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Yes Locker that is true but I tend to think it nice to leave a place better than I found it.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Mar 10, 2013 - 02:41pm PT
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Woo Hoo Locker agrees with me.
Shocking.
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
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Mar 10, 2013 - 02:41pm PT
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I hope the future is awesome too - that's what they promised us when we were kids.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Mar 10, 2013 - 03:15pm PT
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And there is this an idea i had 20 years ago.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Mar 10, 2013 - 03:54pm PT
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Mar 10, 2013 - 03:59pm PT
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ruppell
climber
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Mar 10, 2013 - 08:25pm PT
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Early cell phone circa 1980
Modern cell phone released Dec 2012
So the future was, is, and will be awesome.
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Moof
Big Wall climber
Orygun
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Mar 10, 2013 - 08:31pm PT
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Eco nuts need to learn math and how to properly apply it. They all too often undercut their own cause by either proposing "green" solutions that are vastly less efficient than what they are trying to replace, or by demanding things that are economically idiotic.
My favorite is getting plastic grocery bags banned, while not doing a thing to reduce the vastly greater amounts of plastic used in the packaging contained inside.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Mar 10, 2013 - 09:16pm PT
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What an interesting idea, we all know how hot the AC is, a whole lot of energy indeed. Thanks for posting Phillo! Think of the thousands of square miles of highways, this could be a game changer.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Mar 10, 2013 - 09:37pm PT
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Um, Lockerman, where and when is that upcoming climbing trip to?
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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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Mar 10, 2013 - 09:42pm PT
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Someone needs to alert the automobile industry that they are 20+ years behind all other tech industries...
...at least.
1984 Honda CRX: 50+ MPG and carbuerated--THIS CAR SHOULD BE FLYING ON HYDROGEN BY NOW !!!
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Gilroy
Social climber
Bolderado
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Mar 10, 2013 - 10:14pm PT
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Yeah! Or sucking electricity from those en-solar-ated highways! Or sumpin'.
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
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Mar 10, 2013 - 10:31pm PT
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My favorite is getting plastic grocery bags banned, while not doing a thing to reduce the vastly greater amounts of plastic used in the packaging contained inside.
At least the eco-nuts know how to get the ball rolling.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Mar 10, 2013 - 11:24pm PT
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Yeah Ron lets maintain the status quo. Drill baby drill.
Pfffffft,
You don't see the benefits of the bigger picture.
If you lived in the 19th century you would no doubt demand we hunted all the whales to keep your whale oil lamp burning. It's the 21st century why not join it.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Mar 10, 2013 - 11:48pm PT
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Great!
CalTrans gets to run the power grid.
That's gonna work out well.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Mar 10, 2013 - 11:53pm PT
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I had dinner last week with an old friend who was huge in the electric car
business technically speaking. He agreed that electric cars are unjustifiably
polluting in terms of making the batteries.
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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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Mar 11, 2013 - 12:33am PT
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Plastic grocery bags that are cooked at high temperatures are proven to be the cheapest, most efficient hydrogen storage cells that out perform anything yet discovered...
...technology is stifled, and mankind suffers.
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john hansen
climber
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Mar 11, 2013 - 12:58am PT
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The ban on plastic bags just went into effect over here in Hawaii.
The reason we did it here is because they blow into the ocean and fish and turtles and other creatures either get tangled in them or ingest them. It was a bit of a hassel at first to remember your re usable bags, but after a while no big thing.
I have built three school buildings, with over 25,000 square ft combined , that are suppling all thier electricity with solar and selling the surplus back to the local utility. I would say the panels took up less then 50% of the roof space.
A lot of solar companies now offer leases where they put in the system for free, and then just charge you your normal monthly electric bill.
After a certian time,, like 7 years, you own the system.
The county building dept here , is overwhelmed with permits requesting solar panel installation's. This island only has 170,000 people but they are getting 30 or 40 applications for solar systems a week.
That is close to 2000 per year..
The hardest part of all this is to get the local utility companies to accept all this energy flowing back thru thier infastructure. They can make more , if they supply the power themselves.
Interesting times we live in...
20 % of our energy comes from a geo thermal plant here on the Big island.
Aloha
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