Has Ivan Greene responded publicly to the "chipping" vid?

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Vegasclimber

Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
Mar 7, 2013 - 06:22pm PT
I'm still trying to figure out what this has to do with Greene responding to that chipping vid. What page did the turn start? Lol
RyanD

climber
Squamish
Mar 7, 2013 - 06:28pm PT
some of gods salespeople came to my door today, I had to remind them about the no soliciting/trespassing sign -again.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Mar 7, 2013 - 06:31pm PT
Ya know Matt if you're gonna split, maybe you can take this train wreck wth you?
donald perry

Trad climber
kearny, NJ
Mar 7, 2013 - 10:08pm PT
I see a chipped Gospel here: "Gospel of love The gospel of Jesus Christ is based on love, respect and agency. Mormons believe that all humans have inherited strengths, weaknesses, challenges and blessings and are invited to live, through the help and grace of God, the principles revealed by Jesus Christ. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints maintains that “God’s universal fatherhood and love charges each of us with an innate and reverent acknowledgment of our shared human dignity. We are to love one another. We are to treat each other with respect as brothers and sisters and fellow children of God, no matter how much we may differ from one another.”9"

I am sorry to bring this up, but I noticed the post above. Frankly I would much rather respond to this post below: [I have not been here in awhile.]

“Let me give you all some advice and perspective that has really worked well for me in my life: Don't associate with people who do not improve the quality of your life. Period. Seek out people in your life who make your life and your experiences positive, then be honest and generous and kind to them, and watch your life blossom. Adios motherf*#kers!”

I disagree, I find that it is the people who I disagree with the most to whom I may in fact learn the most from, my best friend in an atheist, and I think he is a genius, most of the time. In other words, if you seek out people who agree with you all the time, you are not going to grow much in life. Isn’t that why we climb these walls? True … true?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeqVlUBZ-D8
Old Video of Ammon McNeely Hard Man falling on aid.

But to get back to this first and unfortunate post I quote, that’s not the good news at all, in fact it is bad news and it is not the Gospel. This “The gospel of Jesus Christ is based on love” has to do with mens WORKS and NOT SALVATION at all. That’s NOT good news but WORK and something someone made up in their head, it does not come from the Bible. This WORKS Doctrine is typical of *Mormons*[1.], Jehovah Witnesses, Pseudo Christianity, and every other false religion, in fact every other religion on the face of the earth.

Here, I’ll prove it. Mark 12 “Which is the first commandment of all? 29And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: 30And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength: this is the first commandment. 31And the second is like, namely this, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. There is none other commandment greater than these.”

OK, so what are we talking about here? The LAW. But the law is not the Gospel, Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. … for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.”

“For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continues not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them” (Gal. 3:10).

The reason that all who are of the works of the law are under the curse is that “by the law is the knowledge of sin” (Rom. 3:20).

OK, so the Gospel is not love, that’s work, work work and more work till you fail and wind up in Hell. We are saved by faith in Christ AND FAITH IN HIS WORK. That is the reason why faith in Christ saves and faith in YOUR WORKS DO NOT SAVE.

The Gospel posted above is only something that will keep you working all the way till you fall off the end of this world into the pits of Hell. Don’t believe that stupid lie.

The true Gospel is, and now I will define it in my own words: trust in Jesus, and nothing more. If you cannot trust him, then you should. It is that simple. No need to write anything more.

Romans 4:5 “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.”

ACTS 13:39 “And by Him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses” [very easy] [Trust in Jesus]

It is only AFTER you put your faith in Christ that your works [Love of God and man, 1st and 2nd commandment] count for something, but these good works you do can NEVER ever save you from Hell.

Oh, ... and concerning one more mistake you make. Jesus was not white, He was a black man, as depicted in early Christian art.




Notes:

[1.] Book of Mormon, Moroni 10:32-33 Yea, acome unto Christ, and be bperfected in him, and cdeny yourselves of all ungodliness; and if ye shall deny yourselves of all ungodliness, and dlove God with all your might, mind and strength, then is his grace sufficient for you, that by his grace ye may be eperfect in Christ; and if by the grace of God ye are perfect in Christ, ye can in nowise deny the power of God. And again, if ye by the grace of God are perfect in Christ, and deny not his power, then are ye asanctified in Christ by the grace of God, through the shedding of the bblood of Christ, which is in the covenant of the Father unto the remission of your csins, that ye become dholy, without spot.

[1.] Book of Mormon, Alma 11:37 37 And I say unto you again that he cannot save them in their asins; for I cannot deny his word, and he hath said that bno unclean thing can inherit the ckingdom of heaven; therefore, how can ye be saved, except ye inherit the kingdom of heaven? Therefore, ye cannot be saved in your sins.

[1.] Book of Mormon, 2 Nephi 25:23 For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do.

bamboo

Trad climber
pike co
Mar 8, 2013 - 03:55am PT

now you dun it!!!
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 8, 2013 - 11:55am PT
If your family commisioned a painting to remember their beloved Wes...

...would they want a portrait of the groomed and handsome Weston about to deliver his valedictary address...or the dusty, thirst crazed Wes returning from the Savage Mountain by way of the Arabian Desert

I suspect they will opt for the pre-Cure goth child of the 70's.



or the desert wanderer/climber indulging in the sins of the modern day Babylon that is Vegas.






it might be well to remember the tribe of Judah were not related (closely) to the Phillistines and rarely intermarried with the other tribes or Israel or Arabs in the area for hundreds of years.

Yes, Judaism has been xenophobic from the start. Which explains why the vast majority if religious wars have been fought by one, or several, of the nasty flavors it has spawned. It is a shame they didn't listen to Jesus when he tried to set them straight.
Jennie

Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
Mar 9, 2013 - 02:30am PT
Cute pic, Wes...don't brush your hair, I want to remember you that way.

...brushing up on world history wouldn't hurt though.
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Mar 9, 2013 - 02:40am PT
I'm sorry Jennie I woke you up with my random posting.
Jennie

Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
Mar 9, 2013 - 02:53am PT
Ha-ha-ha! No problem, Moosedrool...good knowing someone has a sense of humor at 4 AM
Berlington

Sport climber
Berlington, VT
May 30, 2013 - 10:58am PT
What spineless pussies would hide out in the bushes to film a guy who is just out doing what he loves, getting dirty, not hurting anyone? Oh wait it's the same non contributing narg gobblers who will undoubtedly show up after the crag has been developed, the rocks have been scrubbed off, the trails built, the landings fluffed and the guide books written, copied, downloaded as free torrents and distributed to all their clueless, complaining, preachy, fully entitled friends for free. "Gawd, who's the lewsor that built this trail anyway? I can't even fit through here with my Mondo Ego Grande Ass crash pad."

This was posted on DPM under the video...
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
May 30, 2013 - 11:29am PT
his real crime is his music vid.
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Jun 20, 2013 - 11:35am PT
To answer the question below...all the rest of us (except for the camera part). Duh. It's the human condition. Or we can call it "The Little Red Hen" story.
"What spineless pussies would hide out in the bushes to film a guy who is just out doing what he loves, getting dirty, not hurting anyone? Oh wait it's the same non contributing narg gobblers who will undoubtedly show up after the crag has been developed, the rocks have been scrubbed off, the trails built, the landings fluffed and the guide books written, copied, downloaded as free torrents and distributed to all their clueless, complaining, preachy, fully entitled friends for free. "Gawd, who's the lewsor that built this trail anyway? I can't even fit through here with my Mondo Ego Grande Ass crash pad."

The Lil Red Hen story for the uninformed.
"The Little Red Hen is an old folk tale, most likely of Russian origin. The best known version in the United States is that popularized by Little Golden Books, a series of children's books published for the mass market since the 1940s. The story is applied in teaching children the virtues of the work ethic and personal initiative. It is so well known that it is frequently rewritten by pundits and bloggers to illustrate their favorite points."

"Plot summary

In the tale, The Little Red Hen finds a grain of wheat, and asks for help from the other farmyard animals to plant it. But no animal will volunteer to help her.

At each further stage (harvest, threshing, milling the wheat into flour, and baking the flour into bread), the hen again asks for help from the other animals, but again she gets no assistance.

Finally, the hen has completed her task, and asks who will help her eat the bread. This time, all the previous non-participants eagerly volunteer. However, she declines their help, stating that no one aided her in the preparation work, and eats it with her chicks, leaving none for anyone else.

The moral of this story is that those who show no willingness to contribute to an end product do not deserve to enjoy the end product: "if any man will not work, never let him eat."[1]
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