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Dapper Dan

Trad climber
Menlo Park
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 1, 2013 - 10:36pm PT
this guy knows about speed on a bi-cycle , lol !

Captain...or Skully

Mar 1, 2013 - 10:46pm PT
So the question isn't whether you're gonna die fer sure, it's if you wanna be on fire while you die fer sure. Right?
Eric Beck

Sport climber
Bishop, California
Mar 1, 2013 - 11:11pm PT
Back in the 70s I had a girlfriend who was a nurse in the Stanford heart transplant unit. She said that they got 75% of the hearts from motorcyclists.
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
Mar 1, 2013 - 11:15pm PT
You get bonus points if you are a organ donor on your license/motorcycle endorsement.
Captain...or Skully

Mar 1, 2013 - 11:20pm PT
Why? Organ donation is a crime against Nature.

Jim Henson's Basement
Mar 1, 2013 - 11:37pm PT
Statistically.. you are WAY more likely to get injured or killed on a motorcycle.. but it sure takes a long-ass time to go 10,000 miles on a pedal bike.

Mar 2, 2013 - 12:20am PT
On the fence. By the way, I posted earlier and I didn't know the circumstances. If that was a 75 yr old vet who just lost his wife F#$k that a#$hole on the bike. If I was a 75 year old who just lost his wife, f#$k you and get off the damn road you're in my space! If I was 75 and AM STILL driving a country road...F#$k You!

Everyone else just go around.

Anyway my track record is such that I think I've crashed more times on a bike (Shwinn(?) etc, than a motorcycle but it may be close. I've been hit twice on a bicycle never on a motorcycle. Both in Boulder. One dude that hit me rides motorbikes and felt terrible. I saw it coming and jumped off the bike and across the hood total "Fall Guy" style unhurt. He drove me home, took my bike, returned it the next day with a tune up, and all new parts that could have been in his concience as "his damage" totally without me saying a word. I thought that worked out pretty well for me. But I was 25.


A long way from where I started
Mar 2, 2013 - 12:31am PT
Supertopo is getting very weird. Late this afternoon I responded to this thread, and a couple of hours later I've got some first-hand evidence to report

I left work at 5.30, got on my bike and started riding to the gym. A few blocks and I start hearing sirens. A few more blocks and there were flashing lights everywhere. Street blocked off and more police cars, ambulances, and fire department emergency trucks than I could count. Then I saw the bicycle on the road. Smashed up. And fifteen or twenty feet away was a motorcycle, partly under a stopped car. And a taxi, sideways across the road.

Sick-making. Just a few months before, I'd seen another bicycle like that, and the rider hadn't survived. Judging by the state of this bicycle I doubted this rider had survived either.

Now, a few hours later, I've checked the web and it looks like this time there are no deaths.

For whatever it's worth, here are the picture and news report (;. Be careful out there.

5:40 pm today. Seattle.
5:40 pm today. Seattle.
Credit: Ghost

2 injured when taxi, bike, motorcycle and car collide

SEATTLE -- Two people were injured in a Friday evening crash that involved at taxicab, a motorcycle, a parked car and a bicyclist.

Details are still sketchy, but police say the crash happened just before 5:30 p.m. at Alaskan Way and Broad Street near Belltown.

Police say a woman was riding her bike northbound on Alaskan Way when a motorcyclist came up behind her at a high rate of speed.

The cyclist went around a taxi that was stopped on the east side of the street, and at the same time the motorcyclist lost control of his bike and clipped the cab.

The biker then crashed into the cyclist and sideswiped another car before coming to a stop, according to police.

The end result was that the bicyclist, who is in her 30s, and the male motorcyclist in his 20s were both injured and taken to Harborview Medical Center.

Medics say the injuries are not life threatening.

Police are still investigating the crash.

Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Mar 2, 2013 - 12:31am PT
Back in the 70s I had a girlfriend who was a nurse in the Stanford heart transplant unit. She said that they got 75% of the hearts from motorcyclists.

Back in the 70's I had a girlfriend that said she got 95% of her orgasms from a motorcyclist.

Trad climber
Mar 2, 2013 - 01:00am PT
Distracted drivers are really a problem these days. Far and away the majority of the time the jack ass that cut me off or almost hit has a phone to their ear or looks as thought they are texting or at least reading their phone. Have to admit road biking scares me on narrow roads or on roads with limited or no shoulders. Seems like most of my friends are recreational tri-athletes with many miles logged weekly. Hear about many close calls. Hoping that is all that it ever is.
Captain...or Skully

Mar 2, 2013 - 01:02am PT
Dude, yer gonna die. Go ahead, make the dive, already.
The only defense is a good offense.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Mar 2, 2013 - 01:02am PT
Bicycle.  Final answer. <br/>
Motorcycle.  No doubt.
Bicycle. Final answer.
Motorcycle. No doubt.
Credit: mouse from merced
These guys can't decide it, neither. Both ride BMWs. Neither bicycles.

The Ghost with the post! Good photo, lousy experience. Bleagh!

Mar 2, 2013 - 03:29am PT

El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Mar 2, 2013 - 03:31am PT
Squid or salsa?

Social climber
So Cal
Mar 2, 2013 - 10:26am PT
Yes, if you try to use a motorcycle as a sedan.

4 on a bike killed in road crash
Our Correspondent, Kushtia

Four people riding on a motorbike were killed in a road accident at Khankhanapur in sadar upazila of Rajbari yesterday morning.

The dead were identified as Nazrul Islam, 22, Al Amin, 24, Saidul Islam, 19, and Shafiqul Islam, 22, of Kalimohor in Pangsha upazila of Rajbari.

They were returning to Pangsha from Daulatdia when a Dhaka-bound truck rammed the motorcycle on Daulatdia-Khulna highway near Khakhanapur bridge at about 6.30am, said Masudur Rahman, in-charge of highway police in Ahladipur of the district.

Nazrul, Al Amin and Saidul died on the spot while Shafiqul on the way to Faridpur Medical College Hospital around 9.30am.

The driver and helper of the truck fled the scene.

The bodies were sent to Rajbari Sadar Hospital for autopsy.

Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Mar 2, 2013 - 10:43am PT
Rockclimbers scared of motorcycles.

Too funny!

Ice climber
Berkeley, CA
Mar 2, 2013 - 03:29pm PT
Mouse, could that possibly be a late-model Velo Promo van in the background?

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Mar 2, 2013 - 03:43pm PT
Bikers ARE suicidal. (With or without an engine).

What a stupid idea to drive something that is missing two wheels ;)

Near Boston
Mar 2, 2013 - 07:53pm PT
I haven't ridden a motorcycle in 20 years...but I cycle around 2000 miles a year on my road bike. I have had way too many close calls to count but I have never been in an accident (on the road). I do, however, follow the rule of the road when I ride. I do it all...stop for lights, signal etc. I will say that sometimes I can hear trouble behind me and adjust. Landscaping trailers are my biggest fear...I have been hit with enough trimmer line! I really pay attention to where I am going. There are some areas that bicyclists are not safe and to ride there is foolish. Some riders have a real attitude when they cycle and they feel like the can do no wrong; they are usually the ones I hear detailing their latest incident to others. I tell people to ride as if no-one can see you. You'll still have fun and you'll be way safer.

Trad climber
Living Outside the Statist Quo
Mar 2, 2013 - 08:17pm PT
Always thought a good blog title for me would be

The only time I take the truck is when I paddle and I choose between the bianchi commuter or the HD. I've dumped bikes many times broke plenty bones and dumped the cycle once, glad I had the helmet on only collapsing a lung.

The adrenalin is more intense on the HD but more plentiful on the bike.The bike does make me immune to traffic and for that I love it!

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