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Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Feb 28, 2013 - 11:26am PT

I've copied this and quoted it because Donald has a habit of going back and editing and deleting posts, so that responses to his posts seem like non-sequiturs.

This last post of his does a nice job of illustrating what many of us already know. Donald's mind is fragmented and at least some of the fragments have left for parts unknown.

It also demonstrates that all manner of fact and opinion is "moot" to Donald, except for the rather odd perspectives that he alone happens to hold.

Curt
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Feb 28, 2013 - 11:28am PT
Not just Donald, one of the Dinguses says there's a whole community like this up in Idaho. Not my problem what they do up there but sad nonetheless.
patrick compton

Trad climber
van
Feb 28, 2013 - 11:33am PT
They are everywhere!!!!!!! like Zombies!!!!!!!
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Feb 28, 2013 - 11:33am PT
And Patrick. Sorry to forget to mention you.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Feb 28, 2013 - 11:34am PT
FA climbing is typically about challenging yourself to ascend what nature provided in the best style you are capable of. And your best style should be roughly inline with the local standards. That's why you typically don't chip: to preserve the challenge nature provided. Unless something is impossible to climb (a tough call to make given the progressive nature of difficult climbing, but it does exist) then it should be left for someone who CAN climb it.

Rock on private land is subject to it's owner's wishes. It's not a public resource.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 28, 2013 - 11:43am PT
FA climbing is typically....

Ivan Greene is not so typical.

how Typical of him.


LOVE that word.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 28, 2013 - 11:43am PT
Typical GDavis for ya right there.
hagerty

Social climber
A Sandy Area South of a Salty Lake
Feb 28, 2013 - 11:49am PT
Curt wrote:

It also demonstrates that all manner of fact and opinion is "moot" to Donald, except for the rather odd perspectives that he alone happens to hold.
Does Donald even know what moot means and which definition rgold was using in his post?
wivanoff

Trad climber
CT
Feb 28, 2013 - 12:03pm PT
Dropline wrote:
This last post of his does a nice job of illustrating...

I really couldn't follow it. It gave me a visual of someone at a keyboard frothing at the mouth.

I don't know Donald and have no ill-will towards him but that visual was the one thing that made me smile in this whole sad affair and resultant threads.
Red Swami

climber
Feb 28, 2013 - 12:24pm PT
I don't really want to join the discussion but have some photos to share of a beautiful somewhat remote Gunks boulder that got chipped in 2009. I had heard that a well known boulderer had been exploring the region that year. I had known of this boulder for some time and had done the obvious well protected corner route on the right side. The left side had a beautiful blank face and arete that reminds me of something out of stonehenge. I was appalled when I visited tha area in the fall of 2009 to find a horrible mess of scuffed rearranged rocks at the base, dug up moss, litter and the face and arete had been heavily cleaned with chiseled holds. No questions please as to where exactly this is and I honestly don't know who did this.

Red Swami

Before 2009 photos.

Credit: Red Swami

Credit: Red Swami

Credit: Red Swami

Credit: Red Swami

Credit: Red Swami

Credit: Red Swami

After photos from the fall of 2009.

Credit: Red Swami

Credit: Red Swami

Credit: Red Swami

Credit: Red Swami

Credit: Red Swami

GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 28, 2013 - 12:32pm PT
^^^^
that's f*#ked up.




Glad they ticked the hold, sometimes you forget which spot you enhanced more than others. It's not like the giant dark scar is easy to see or anything.
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 28, 2013 - 12:38pm PT
These are sad days at the gunks.
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Feb 28, 2013 - 01:04pm PT
that's f*#ked up.

+1

Curt
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 28, 2013 - 01:16pm PT
Don'chunonuthin? Datswhutcliminiz. Axehni1.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Feb 28, 2013 - 01:18pm PT
Maybe they were making arrow heads.
DanaB

climber
CT
Feb 28, 2013 - 04:11pm PT
I have met Rich G on numerous occasions and talked with him briefly once or twice. I've known, and known of Donald since the late '70s.

The mental image I get of Rich and Donald discussing this issue in person - leaves me speechless. A few of you here might understand.

Talk about parallel universes.
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 28, 2013 - 04:52pm PT
More like the former is the human embodiment of the sun, the earth, the moon, and the stars, while the latter is lost in space somewhere the other side of Altair 3.
Oldfattradguy2

Trad climber
Here and there
Mar 1, 2013 - 09:58am PT
This sh#t is awesome, it reminds of some of the BS issues that first attracted me to climbing (and the Gunks) in the mid-70's when I was an impressionable 15-yo lad. Back then it was CH and DH writing letters back and forth to climbing (back when it was still a decent magazine). That was I believe even before Donald found Jehovah and was stealing fixed pins from classic routes for his own projects.

The soap opera is the awesome part, the chipping sucks, if it would have happened at Minnewaska, when I was the Pseudo-law, I would have run his ass right to the cop car, and then gone back to climbing on the tax-payers dime.

Dana B; Yes I understand.............

hagerty

Social climber
A Sandy Area South of a Salty Lake
Mar 1, 2013 - 11:11am PT
Dropline wrote:
I've copied this and quoted it because Donald has a habit of going back and editing and deleting posts, so that responses to his posts seem like non-sequiturs.
Thank you. I see that Donald has indeed edited his post and changed all the "moot"s to "+".

I also see that someone calling themselves Red Swami has a single post with a number of photos of an obscure NY boulder that was chipped in 2009. Interestingly, Donald Perry has posted some of the same photos (actually, he linked to the ones here) in the Gunks.com thread. Does Red Swami = Donald Perry?
Red Swami

climber
Mar 1, 2013 - 11:43am PT
Hagerty are you the guy from Grizzly Adams? :-)

No I'm not Donald Perry.

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