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GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 21, 2013 - 12:21pm PT
LOL I'm glad that DPM poster could fix that for us.
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Feb 21, 2013 - 12:22pm PT
Good comments from EDELRID on their Facebook page:

http://www.facebook.com/EDELRIDInternational?fref=ts
Fish Finder

Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
Feb 21, 2013 - 12:26pm PT



Lets just hope the filmographer didnt

break that tree branch to get the shot!
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Feb 21, 2013 - 12:37pm PT
"We would like to state unequivocally that EDELRID does not support the practice of chipping. It is our belief that the challenge, and the pleasure of climbing, lies in rock formations, as they occur naturally.

With this in mind we can state that we find the recent behaviour of Ivan Greene to be completely unacceptable, and we would like to take this opportunity to clarify that he is no longer an EDELRID sponsored athlete, and in actuality has not been supported by the brand for over 12 months.

We will be removing all references to Ivan Greene from the EDELRID website with immediate effect."
The Wedge

Boulder climber
Santa Rosa & Bishop, CA
Feb 21, 2013 - 12:44pm PT
Ivan Green <---Focken Loser!
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 21, 2013 - 01:22pm PT
Still there... http://www.edelrid.de/en/sports/sponsoring/athletes/ivan-greene.html
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Feb 21, 2013 - 01:34pm PT
Why would a rope company sponsor a boulderer?
WBraun

climber
Feb 21, 2013 - 01:39pm PT
Why would a rope company sponsor a boulderer?


Because a boulderer doesn't have any money to fix their car and they use the rope to tow the car home.

This shows that edelrid ropes are strong and good.

Rolls eyes .....
this just in

climber
north fork
Feb 21, 2013 - 01:40pm PT
Plus sometimes they gotta rap down from the boulder.
Roxy

Trad climber
CA Central Coast
Feb 21, 2013 - 01:50pm PT
that would have been hard for me to keep filming so quietly.

coulda been interesting to call him out on film.

OR

Trad climber
Feb 21, 2013 - 01:53pm PT
Plus sometimes they gotta rap down from the boulder to make holds.

Fixed that for ya:)
OR

Trad climber
Feb 21, 2013 - 01:57pm PT
I would love to hear the details on the stealthy survailance mission by the filmers. Must of been sporty.
skitch

climber
East of Heaven
Feb 21, 2013 - 02:03pm PT
When I first heard about this I searched Ivan Greene and landed on: www.BrooklynBoulders.com


I contacted them to try and get Ivan's response, today I recieved the following from Lance Pinn:

Thanks man,


He says he was cleaning up after someone else's mess. He will have his lawyer release a statement shortly I think.


-Lance
BruceAnderson

Social climber
Los Angeles currently St. Antonin, France
Feb 21, 2013 - 02:05pm PT
I fired off an email to Edelrid as soon as I saw that.
Every thing I've ever seen or heard of Ivan just spells complete tool.
He and I have several mutual friends on FB and one day my wife asks me who Ivan Greene is, she just received a friend request from some weird looking guy. Pathetically searching through second- hand Facebook friends for females you've never met? Classy....
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Feb 21, 2013 - 02:06pm PT
He says he was cleaning up after someone else's mess. He will have his lawyer release a statement shortly I think.

-Lance

Funny whether a joke or true (I'm hoping for the latter, we'll all stay tuned I'm sure).
bjj

climber
beyond the sun
Feb 21, 2013 - 02:21pm PT
The statements below assume the following:

1) Holds were being manufactured, and it was not simply cleaning off friable choss or loose flakes / junk that would be pulled off at the wrong time if left as is.

2) It isn't being done in his backyard, on private land with the owner's permission or in a quarry.

3) It is in fact Ivan Greene

Ahem....

What an absolute f**kwad.

I remember this clown from some bouldering vids from back in the late 90's (IIRC). Came off like a complete tool. That stupid ass tattoo on his back tells me all I need to know. It is very similar to what a lot of the posers in the MMA (mixed martial arts) scene have done, along with wearing stupid Affliction style tshirts heavily laden with skulls, pitbulls and barbed wire to try and look like a bad ass. This is a lot easier than actually learning to be a badass through training and hard work.

There is (usually) an inverse relationship between talent / ability and ego / need for validation.

Also, the idea that the person filming is culpable for not running down there to confront him is ludicrous. Putting yourself into what would certainly be a heated exchange with someone holding items capable of easily killing you is the milieu of people with poor critical thinking skills, or as we observe in this thread, keyboard warrior badasses who greatly overestimate themselves.

Finally, the idea of a "slippery slope" from other practices like putting in bolts or the use of non-clean aid to this atrocity is tenuous at best.



JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Feb 21, 2013 - 02:22pm PT
He will be sent to the Cali central valley to hand pick sh!t out of the fields for 108 days with only water and gruel for punishment

Hey, don't dis honest work, Werner. I earned the money for my first rope, 'biners and pro (well, OK, pitons, so I'm guilty, too) by picking grapes.

I have a hard time judging whether someone is a good or bad person, since I have so many faults myself. I have an easier time judging whether chipping is acceptable or unacceptable. It is not and should not be. When we gained an alternative to widening pin scars, we stopped using pins, by and large. We have always had an alternative to chipping on boulders. Last I checked, there is still no shortage of unknown bouldering territory.

John
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Feb 21, 2013 - 02:26pm PT
Still there...

I posted a link to that on EDELRID's Facebook page and got this response:

Hi David, we've de-listed this page from our main athletes page, but the webmaster informs us it will take some time still to remove the page completely. It seems like you can still find it via Google. Please bear with us.


-as for this hilariously funny quote:

He says he was cleaning up after someone else's mess. He will have his lawyer release a statement shortly I think.

Cool! I was wondering what the epoxy was for...

Tools of the trade? No, tools of the tool!
Tools of the trade? No, tools of the tool!
Credit: Hardman Knott
Dingus McGee

Social climber
Laramie
Feb 21, 2013 - 02:38pm PT
merchrist,

No comparisons used here. You are projecting. I have described the pathway to some of the good routes we climb.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Feb 21, 2013 - 03:04pm PT
Couch: It probably comes about from creeping incrementalism where you need to pull off loose flakes, then you need to knock a few off that are wiggling but won't pull off by hand.
That's some serious incrementalism when it includes about 300 pounds of rock and explicitly targets chiseling out whole swaths of non-loose crack and dihederal on an existing pitch variation which results in lowering its difficulty a grade. And that's before any retrobolts. Even more 'incrementalist' is the stunningly boldface claim it absolutely, positively did not happen, but then such is the extent of some folks' personal and collective reality distortion field - just like the one seen enveloping Ivan Greene in the video. [Creeping (and creepy)] 'incrementalism' is when you cut the top half off of beautiful little trees that aren't even in the way of any thing just because you can't restrain the urge.
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