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mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 20, 2013 - 03:28pm PT
Yes, but Kokanee are pretty.
Chim-Chim

climber
Feb 20, 2013 - 03:31pm PT
And tasty! German browns taste like brautworst. Doesn't the fish and game have a problem with trout eating frogs in high lakes?
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 20, 2013 - 03:44pm PT
Yep, trout are voracious predators.
FRUMY

Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
Feb 20, 2013 - 04:47pm PT
Are Kokanee Salmon introduced? I don't think so, but I am not sure.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 20, 2013 - 04:54pm PT
Yes, they were introduced. They've been in the lake for 50 or so years, but they don't seem to be hurting anything, so they are left alone. Plus they feed the bears.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 20, 2013 - 05:59pm PT
The natives were Lahaton Cuthroat trout and the mtn whitefish. Seems the lake is CHUKED FULL of "invasive" species.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 20, 2013 - 06:03pm PT
...and chub and some suckers and some dace and some others.

Yes, Lake Tahoe has a bunch of invasive species, some doing WAY more damage to the native fish populations and ecosystem than others.
FRUMY

Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
Feb 20, 2013 - 06:10pm PT
Live & learn. I always thought they were native.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Feb 20, 2013 - 06:29pm PT
Seems the lake is CHUKED FULL of "invasive" species.

Humans, most of all.

DMT
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Feb 20, 2013 - 06:30pm PT
wouldn't want to hurt those native black bass either!
WTF

climber
Feb 21, 2013 - 06:07am PT
F*#king retards all of you. We're weeks from the TRPA dissolving after the f*#ktards of Tahoe (aka friends of Tahoe) and of course the f*#king Sierra Club retards filed suit last week to stop the new TRPA development plan.

While told by both Barbra Fienstein and Harry doucchebag Reid not to. The end result will be a big f*#k you by the TRPA which will dissolve and there will be no rules as to development.

Yeah the Kokanee are planted and so are douche bags like Wes and his bro bras on the west shore the same bunch of sh#t bags complaining who all own second homes or primary homes around the lake.

So Wes you love the lake so much move away from the lake tear down the shack you live in and make an effort to tell the rest of those douche bags around the lake to,do the same.

Tahoe while easy on the eye is a pile of sh#t lake with house casinos and f*#king retard,enviromnazis living all around it complaining about development but only after their houses were built ,

I look forward to a huge fire on the west shore one day where all those house are well destroyed and not rebuilt.

Gold fish are the least of,the lakes problems.

the czar

climber
meyers, ca.
Feb 21, 2013 - 07:53am PT
Mmmm. i kinda want some sushi now, but its so early...
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 21, 2013 - 07:53am PT
hahaha, my house up here is my 3rd home... dumb ass.
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Feb 21, 2013 - 08:00am PT
LOL!

WTF is WTF so angry about?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 21, 2013 - 08:52am PT
Non-native trout have occupied nearly every habitat in all Lake Tahoe tributaries. Native fish,
like the mountain whitefish and Tui chub, historically known to occur in Trout Creek, were not
found anywhere during the 2010 field season, indicating a significant impact on their
distribution. It is known that introductions of non-native species have greatly reduced
populations of native forage fish within Lake Tahoe. Establishing a foundation of information
and continued monitoring will explore the impact of non-native fish on native non-game fish.



This is part of the below reports:

http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5286033.pdf



The native climax species was the Lahaton Cuthroat trout which was extirpated from the lake in the 1930s.

Invasives include Kokanee salmon, Rainbow trout, brown trout, brook trout, mackinaw as the PRIME predator fish. THOSE populations are thousands of times greater than any warm water fish that leave the keys to wander in near by shallows.

bjj

climber
beyond the sun
Feb 21, 2013 - 08:56am PT
Holy shitballs! That's amazing. WTF @ the one from France?! That CAN NOT be real. Looks like it weighs 25 lbs!

Maybe I shouldn't have dumped my aquarium into the water on the beach at hurricane bay when I moved away in '99

Sorry! My Bad!
FRUMY

Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
Feb 21, 2013 - 08:59am PT
Nice Ron, tfpu.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 21, 2013 - 09:10am PT
THOSE populations are thousands of times greater than any warm water fish that leave the keys to wander in near by shallows.

Ron, glad to see you are doing some reading. Tell me, where do the LCT spawn? What time of year? And what species are hanging around those areas during that time... eating all the new fry?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 21, 2013 - 09:18am PT
Your welcome Frumy..

Also, as a side note, the economy of the basin is added to quite a lot from the guided fishing on the lake. Stores, gas stations and motels all benefit from the fishing for those non-native salmanoides. The keys attract fisherman from all over the west- just for the pleasure and oddity of catching largemouth bass there. The crappie were some of the best eating fish ive ever had from there.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 21, 2013 - 09:44am PT
As far as i know, one of the main locations the LCT has been active in spawning would be Glen Allen creek.. Around 1980, plans were made for re-introduction of the lahaton cutthroat ans stocking programs have gone on since- but not every season as the availability of fish arent always there.

Cutthroats will feed on their young, and any other fish they can get in their mouths. Ive wathced that at marlette lake.
Now there may be occasional warm water fish that feed upon fry as well- but ONLY in those shallows that warm enough for actual feeding activity by warm water fish.

Ndow has also tried planting sterile trout in tahoe, so they dont spawn. However,,these fish tend to grow rapidly as all they do is swim and EAT.
Just like the "wipers" in Lahaton that have now grown to nearly 30 pounds. They are eating machines.


So far all the grief those few warm water fishies receive, it is only a scratch off the real sources of native bait species declines. That and the fact the lake has warmed slightly- and of course that is most noticeable in water five feet deep or less. So the non game species are making movements to be in their preferred temperatures.

Plantings of salmanoides way back when was the start of this all. The decimation of LCTs from the 1800s to around 1930 were a huge mistake. Introducing sterile eating machines arent the answer either.



And this from the "About lake tahoe" website.


Lake Tahoe - Big Blue is best fished from a big boat. There are a number of fishing charters available as well as plenty of rental boats. Additionally, shore fishing is good at certain places most of which are on the east shore. Cave Rock is among the most accessible of these. Lake Tahoe has Brown and Rainbow Trout as well as the mighty deep dwelling Mackinaw and the land-locked Kokanee Salmon. Lahontan Cutthroat Trout are no longer viable since their young are predated by the Mackinaw, which is not a native fish.


edit: fyi, bass are notorious of feeding on their own. After spawning, its the smaller males that guard nests. Big females will cruise them swallowing as many as they can every pass. And as far as i know, no spawning has been seen outside the keys from these warm water fish. The fish seen in studies were only around for a two month period for the most, then vanished from those other areas. (The warmest two months of the year-July and Aug.)


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