donluvs2climb
Sport climber
Fort Collins
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Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 18, 2013 - 10:38am PT
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I'm considering including tips on how climbing partners can engage in co-creative coaching, to help each other improve, in my book, Think-Play-Send.
What has worked for you when your partner helped coach you or vice versa?
Thanks,
Don
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Onewhowalksonrocks
Mountain climber
portland, Maine
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Feb 18, 2013 - 12:26pm PT
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I leave my partner alone unless they are in danger. Of course I don't climb with beginners.
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
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Feb 18, 2013 - 02:38pm PT
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Spraying beta at someone trying to climb is a definite negative. My partners pushed me by putting me on routes harder and more run out than any I'd done before, and lying about the grades.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Feb 18, 2013 - 03:08pm PT
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I take them off belay right at the crux. That usually motivates them to focus and climb hard.
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ground_up
Trad climber
mt. hood /baja
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Feb 18, 2013 - 03:09pm PT
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My main partner was a very strong face/slab/friction climber but lacked
any crack skills , struggled on 5.7's .... I have crack skills but was
quite lame on face n friction . Over 5 years of climbin together we
did a lot of coaching with each other and are far better for it.
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Dave Kos
Social climber
Temecula
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Feb 18, 2013 - 03:48pm PT
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I cheer them on, while secretly hoping that they fail on any section that was difficult for me.
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Crackslayer
Trad climber
Eldo
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Feb 18, 2013 - 06:01pm PT
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I just try to scare the sh#t out of my second. Never tell them anything except that maybe it is easy.
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Dingus Milktoast
Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
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Feb 18, 2013 - 08:33pm PT
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Yep, with Bad Beta (Tm) Bahhahahahahahah!
"Back step it!" when they're splayed out in the X pattern, that's a good one.
Or make up terms....
"Scum the Swicky! NO!!! THE OTHER ONE!"
Best of all?
"Just scurry up that part!"
Mostly its my partner, schooling me, on any given day.
Cheers partner
DMT
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Tami
Social climber
Canada
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Feb 18, 2013 - 08:40pm PT
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Don ? You ask this question on THIS site ? Yer gonna get only hilariously silly goofy stupid answers. Really, dude............. comin' to ST lookin' fer real info is like doing yer PhD and usin' wiki.
But good luck with yer book anyhow. Sell zillions !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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dave
climber
Earth
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Feb 18, 2013 - 08:42pm PT
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I have a partner we call coach
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TrundleBum
Trad climber
Las Vegas
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Feb 18, 2013 - 08:49pm PT
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I try to coax my partner.
But most of the stuff is a little to 'experimental' for her :(
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Feb 18, 2013 - 09:00pm PT
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I mean no offense, but when I imagine this book in use, I picture gumby guys who are "teaching" their new, previously non-climbing, girlfriends to climb...
With these guys pointing out how this book explains that it is a positive thing to have them telling her exactly what to do and what she is doing wrong. And of course, patronizing her as she takes her turn at coaching, as the book suggests...
I am sure I am wrong, but that is what came to me! Sorry, but....
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 18, 2013 - 09:15pm PT
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I learned to coach at the Ghengis Khan School of Motivational Speaking:
"GET ON WITH IT, YA WANKER!"
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Feb 18, 2013 - 09:31pm PT
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When the other person on the rope needs coaching they haven't achieved partner status.
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looks easy from here
climber
Ben Lomond, CA
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Feb 18, 2013 - 10:53pm PT
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"I don't know what you're doing, but whatever it is you're doing it WRONG!"
That's helpful, right?
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ruppell
climber
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Feb 18, 2013 - 11:30pm PT
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I gotta go with tami on this one. If your asking here you might wanna consider another name for the book. Such as, THINK-PAY-send??? lol Good luck
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donluvs2climb
Sport climber
Fort Collins
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 19, 2013 - 06:38am PT
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I guess I should have known Tami and Ruppell. Although sometimes there are a few nuggets from people who want to be helpful.
Anyways, I always get a kick out of a few of the gnarly responses.
Don
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Randisi
Social climber
Dalian, Liaoning
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Feb 19, 2013 - 06:49am PT
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Please don't ever use the word "send."
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MisterE
Social climber
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Feb 19, 2013 - 07:18am PT
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There are really only three words you need to know to be a great coach:
"Yah!" "Go!" "Send!"
Never vary the order of these three magical words, although good coaching technique involves adjusting volume and frequency during critical learning moments.
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
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Feb 19, 2013 - 07:23am PT
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Yes: GET OFF THE F-ING ROPE! ,,,,yur on the wrong route,,,and,,,sure,, go for it..KISS principle...
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