Ok.. anyone following GoldRush on the tube?


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Big Wall climber
Crestline CA
Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 14, 2013 - 09:26pm PT
Entertaining but I it does upset me when I see them doze acres of forest land down to nearly bedrock just so they can make a buck. I guess that is ok up there in Alaska? If they did that down here they would have to replace the soil and rehab the land when they are done ... up there it seems they just destroy and move on. The leader of the Oregon crew... big Todd... seems to be very close to being an idiot, constantly making all kinds of wild pronouncements that never seem to come true, all the while screwing up things he touches, as much as possible. Anyway there is probably a thread about this but I haven't seen it... so maybe this has already been hashed out. The kid, Parker, seems to know a whole lot more about mining than the Oregon crew. Opinions please!
Mr Roy

Feb 14, 2013 - 09:31pm PT
I watched one episode and was like "Yep, that's how rednecks do it."
mike m

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black hills
Feb 14, 2013 - 09:52pm PT
Love it. Looking for a shovel right now.

The Granite State.
Feb 14, 2013 - 09:59pm PT
One of the worst shows ever. It's like a tutorial on how to be an ignorant, overconfident redneck.

The premise has potential, but the protagonists are like the Keystone Kops.
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Feb 14, 2013 - 10:02pm PT
Todd Hoffman is the biggest moron on the show.
he fuks up anything he does and is to full of himself,

I like the kid Parker Schnabel,
humble, soft spoken hard workin kid.

It does make me cringe when I see the damage those operations cause.
I wonder if they are required to repair/replant the claims.


Trad climber
Feb 14, 2013 - 10:51pm PT
Don't get me started!

I live right where it all began, was almost killed by the film crew the first season.

Now Parker is getting a case of the stankless shat.

I don't have TV, last I saw was a whole herd of greenhorns assembling for said bulldozing in CA.

I have friends who mine the same area here with no production company backing.
Very different than what you see on discovery.

Crap. You got me started!

Trad climber
Mountain View, CA
Feb 14, 2013 - 11:18pm PT
Reality TV at it's best where just about everyone is six sigmas from normal. These shows love to feature the ignorant, arrogant and insecure (wasn't that the title of some climbing article from way back:-)). Too bad they are raping the Alaskan countryside.

Trad climber
reno, nv
Feb 14, 2013 - 11:48pm PT
Heard about that show. Don't have cable. The whole premise of people tearing up the land in idiotic fashion disgusts me....

mainly because that's what they'll think I mean when I say I want to go prospecting. Rednecks. pfffft.

People love drama.

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 15, 2013 - 01:08am PT
There ain't one of the whole lot, including the nice young kid, who make
any decisions based on anything other than wild conjecture. Pretty sad.
That crazy Bohunk dood is the only one who has any clue. He at least does
test bores.

Trad climber
Feb 15, 2013 - 01:24am PT
The Schnabels own half or more of the borough.

John Sr. went gold mining after he already had enough money to last 5 lifetimes from road construction and logging.

They just go up there for fun.

Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
Feb 15, 2013 - 01:39am PT
Entertaining show. I gotta believe they replace the tops of the claims.

Not fond of Dakota Fred, but I like it when his kid makes fun of Fred...



Separately, having dug out some holes in my time, I'm amazed at what they don't shore up.

Way out there....
Feb 15, 2013 - 01:48am PT
Dustin lives here in Bishop. I knew him before he went on the show (cliche, I know). Good guy. Even climbs some rocks sometimes.

And yes, Todd is a fricken idiot.

Mountain climber
Feb 15, 2013 - 06:18am PT
I watch it, it's got me in its clutches.
Tood does seem to be a grade A moron. Shoot first, ask questions later. Who the hell would give that guy any money? Oh right, some Texan.
Dakota Fred has done some rather impressive on sight fabrications that has got his heavy equipment up and running again.

Hydrolic mining did a helluva number on the landscape in California. Mining ain't pretty.

Trad climber
the pitch above you
Feb 15, 2013 - 06:37am PT
If you think those guys are rednecks, you haven't seen the toothless hillbillies that make up the cast of Moonshiners. Straight outta "Deliverance", some of em. While at least they aren't digging up whole tracts of land, they do leave their garbage all over the woods.

Trad climber
Feb 15, 2013 - 09:52am PT
"If you think those guys are rednecks, you haven't seen"....

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Feb 15, 2013 - 09:58am PT
Love that show. The part where they are all holding hands praying to God outloud to send them a gold find in season one kind of made me go Grrrrr.

Big Wall climber
Crestline CA
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 15, 2013 - 11:35am PT
If anyone needs to pray they do, as rational thought is not their thing.

Social climber
Feb 15, 2013 - 11:44am PT
What made me go "GRRRR" was one of the first episodes when they had just established their "compound". Black bears were coming out of hibernation & heading downhill.....so of course they had to shoot one of the "vicious" animals encroaching on their digs. Watching the mad scramble, I noticed that pretty much every flat surface (cable spool "table", coolers, etc)
had food of some kind on it...bag of chips, box of crackers, etc. It's tragic that their complete ignorance resulting in shooting a bear....

Who'd be crazy enough to back them financially? The same ones who deal with Nigerian princes, I guess.

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Feb 15, 2013 - 12:54pm PT
It's TV entertainment ... what do you expect???

I forget who the smart Scottsman is who helps with the bore holes, in one of the episodes the guy admidts to getting 4 oz/day.... he is not a goober like the rest of them.

These REALITY shows are stupid... but they get me thinking about just what would make a cool show, I think I have the answer....

YOSAR... Can you see the cool episode... start off with Werner and his crew hanging in Camp 4.... you know just working out, some go climbing... others hang in the Bar all nite... then the BIG CALL for help comes...
and the TEAM springs into action.... TOP OF THE CAP... Werner gets lowered over the edge... into the great void of real exposure... gets down to the stranded Frenchmen..... Ve are so grateful, you have saved us....

Close out with Tools searching cars....

May 3, 2013 - 09:41am PT
There must be gold in making gold mining shows:

I especially like the guys who wander around the back country tundra of Greenland in Carhart jackets and Stetsons.

And lumber shopping in Greenland seems pricy
Bill Mc Kirgan

Trad climber
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
May 3, 2013 - 09:53am PT
The part where they are all holding hands praying to God outloud to send them a gold find in season one kind of made me go Grrrrr.


Yeah, considering what gold symbolizes, and how the quest for gold tends to bring out the worst characteristics in people that prayer made my gut wretch.


Trad climber
reno, nv
May 3, 2013 - 11:22am PT
Anyone got a gopro? I know where there,s this canyon...
I have beer, guns, chips, goldpans, and video editing software...
And the bears should be coming out of hibernation...
Last year upstream of my target area there was a totally illegal high-banker set-up, and a dude wandering around uphill with an AR15,...
and I can TOTALLY dress the part of an undereducated texas redneck, hell I lived there half a year in my twenties!

Pilot-episode for a new redmeck-channel reality series, anyone? Plain old-fashioned redneck epic perhaps? Adventure likely... Death and disorientation possible...
But you gota leave that prayin crap at home.

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
May 3, 2013 - 12:17pm PT
yep, there's nothing more aggravating than a bunch of guys working hard to provide a product that we all demand...who the hell do they think they are digging for gold just to sell to a bunch of righteous computer, cell phone, and medical device manufacturers?

what a bunch of a-holes!

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
May 3, 2013 - 12:28pm PT
It'll never work, Hillrat.

To make the perfect TV show, you need all that, plus:

 Conflict within the group. Team players gotta go. Most organizations want a crew that works well together. YOU don't. Nobody wants to watch a gold-mining show where the cast actually mines gold. That would be as dull for the viewer as watching climbers climbing. It's the personality clashes that makes this sh#t sell.

 Unnecessary beligerence. Your cast needs to be overly aggressive about all things, especially things on which they disagree. This sows the seeds for...

 Arguements and fights. Once again, you can't expect someone to spend 15 minutes watching actual gold mining. The viewers would fall asleep. It's the constant fights that viewers seem to want, the same way NASCAR wouldn't sell without the constant wrecks.

 Keeping "score". You gotta find a way to make some kind of "box score" to turn an occupation into a competition. This expands the conflict from within an organization to conflict among many organizations. That gets the viewers to tune in next week, so they can find out whether the group of beligerent buttheads they sided with during the arguments and fights come out *ahead*, or not.

 Time element. You have to always be running out of time. No one wants to watch a program that runs 50 weeks straight, then takes a couple weeks off in summer ( like the actual job ). You need the season to end, so you can declare a "winner" ( a paycheck used to make you a winner, pre-TV ).

They call that Reality TV.


Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
May 3, 2013 - 01:01pm PT
what a bunch of a-holes!

There ya go Prospero.

"If you think those guys are rednecks, you haven't seen"....

Credit: survival
Need I say more?


30 mins. from suicide USA
May 3, 2013 - 01:07pm PT
$$$$$ rich rednecks you mean $$$$$$$$$$

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reno, nv
May 3, 2013 - 01:32pm PT
oh, there,s plenty opportunity for conflict. After all, I,m lookin for partners on a climbing forum to go canyoning in a way that conflicts with the leave no trace ethic, while packing, and consuming beer. Did I mention the bolt kit?
We can keep score in bolts-vs-nuggets. When is there not some climber-belayer miscommunication conflict going on? And the winner is...
the dude who makes it out.
Time limits? Easy, tryn to summit before dark. With a next-season hook suggesting benightment in the lightning... and I can borrow a banjo.

Trad climber
Pebble Wrestling.... Badly lately.
May 3, 2013 - 03:52pm PT
I always thought that you could make a great reality show just by following Too Strong around for a week or two. It would need to be on cable because it is going to be R/X rated.

Trad climber
May 3, 2013 - 04:57pm PT
Friends here in BC that mine say they can't pull off most of what goes on with those TV shows. They have to replace water in creeks cleaner than they took it out, re-build and plant any land they uncover, etc. I think you have different rules in Alaska.
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