mtnyoung
Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
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Feb 11, 2013 - 09:24pm PT
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Thanks for the insight Ksolem. He sounds like a plain politician (meant in the worst sense of the word - and yes, there are good ones).
Bruce, thanks for attending on behalf of climbers, it doesn't sound quite as private as I'd feared. And thanks (again!) for the rebolting.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Feb 11, 2013 - 09:25pm PT
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Does this mean that the "age of consent" in the new Pinnacles National Park is now 16 years old? Are you violating the Mann Act if you bring an underage girl to Pinnacles for "immoral purposes", or does Federal Law trump State Law in this case?
All youth leaders must know the truth! Awaiting clarification . . .
Lmao! Moreskitz nails it!
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Guck
Trad climber
Santa Barbara, CA
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Feb 11, 2013 - 09:27pm PT
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The flip side is that old geezers will get in for free with their senior pass :)
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
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Feb 11, 2013 - 09:31pm PT
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Exactly. To quote Edward Abbey from Desert Solitaire... "When does the construction begin?"
well said
Beatings will continue until the Park is improved!
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Feb 11, 2013 - 11:34pm PT
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there were almost 500 attendees... Interesting.
I did get in some rebolting before the ceremony. Cool! Always good to have a Plan A. :-)
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Feb 12, 2013 - 10:27am PT
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Let the flames begin...
Did somebody call the fire department?
Cuz this parkification is a good danged idea.
It promotes the place, which ultimately might be a bad thing for condors and climbers, I ADMIT.
But the place is such springtime lovely it is under-appreciated, as is that other place south of there in the Coast Range. Llano Carrizo, thet's it--nice flowers there, too, that time of year.
Hite Cove on the S Fork Merced River is great for that sort of hike, as well as Table Mtn. in Tuolumne Co.
None of these spots compare to Yosemite Valley, and it does it without the floweres.
It's not "fair" but it's Ma Nature, and as the Park Service is fond of saying, "Nature rules."
Choss vs granite
Height vs spectacular height
Bah vs interesting
But...some things about Pinnacles are cool. You can still get the guidebook by John Wolfe is one thing not mentioned in this short list.
http://www.fodors.com/news/new-national-park-pinnacles-6436.html
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Feb 12, 2013 - 10:48am PT
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The flip side is that old geezers will get in for free with their senior pass :)
That's already the case, since the NPS currently runs the Monument. Only 124 days until I can get my Golden Turkey, but who's counting?
John
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Feb 12, 2013 - 12:29pm PT
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You can still get the guidebook by John Wolfe
Really? Do you have a copy?
I have a copy of his guidebook to Joshua Tree (when it was still a Monument and not a National Park yet).
Both places are hot in the summer.
However, I'm quite sure that John Wolfe never wrote a guidebook to the Pinnacles National Monument.
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