lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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Feb 11, 2013 - 02:44pm PT
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I know Big Bear well as well as getting out of those mountains which is easy even in the snow. Most likely teamed up with a few notorious gang members in the area in San Bernardino especially a few Cartel members which a 1 million reward is small change to them for exchanging info on LAPD including tracking techniques.
He would know about the drones that have been flying near the Mexican border for years and just needs to get the timing right to cross; mostly likely a tunnel.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Feb 11, 2013 - 03:25pm PT
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I wish fattrad was here so he could join in.
Dorner was fired after he reported that his training officer kicked a mentally ill man 3 times. The LAPD claimed he fabricated the report and fired him.
Dorner's case revolved around a July 28, 2007, call about a man causing a disturbance at the DoubleTree Hotel in San Pedro. When Dorner and his training officer showed up, they found Christopher Gettler. He was uncooperative and threw a punch at one of the officers, prompting Dorner's training officer, Teresa Evans, to use an electric Taser weapon on him.
Nearly two weeks later, Dorner walked into Sgt. Donald Deming's office at the Harbor Division police station. There were tears in Dorner's eyes, the sergeant later testified.
Deming gave the following account of what happened next:
"I have something bad to talk to you about, something really bad," Dorner told him.
Evans, Dorner explained, had kicked Gettler once in the face and twice in the left shoulder or nearby chest area. Afterward, Dorner said, Evans told him not to include the kicks on the arrest report.
"Promise me you won't do anything," Dorner asked Deming.
"No, Chris. I have to do something," Deming responded.
An internal affairs investigation into the allegation concluded the kicks never occurred. Investigators subsequently decided that Dorner had fabricated his account. He was charged with making false accusations.
At the December 2008 Board of Rights hearing, Dorner's attorney, Randal Quan, conceded that his client should have reported the kicks sooner but told the board that Dorner ultimately did the right thing. He called the case against Dorner "very, very ugly."
"This officer wasn't given a fair shake," Quan said, according to transcripts of the board hearing. "In fact, what's happening here is this officer is being made a scapegoat."
At the hearing, Dorner stuck to his story. Evans, he said, kicked Gettler once in the left side of his collarbone lightly with her right boot as they struggled to handcuff him. She kicked him once more forcefully in the same area, Dorner testified, and then much harder in the face, snapping Gettler's head back. Dorner said he noticed fresh blood on Gettler's face.
But there is independent evidence that Dorner told the truth.
Gettler's father, Richard, testified that police eventually brought his son home and that he noticed a slight puffiness on his son's face. His son told him he had been kicked by a police officer — once in the face and twice in the chest, he said. Richard Gettler said he was shocked but decided against calling police because the injury was minor and his son could not explain what prompted the officers to use force. Gettler said that his son's mental illness prevented him from being a good witness and that he was easily scared and would often answer "yes" to everything.
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Patrick Sawyer
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Originally California now Ireland
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Feb 12, 2013 - 02:59am PT
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No Survival, you are wrong, it was Miss Scarlett, but yes the candlestick in the library.
Boy, has this bloke Dorner kicked up a storm. The hate I have seem on some forums. Racist crap and such. There is one bloke on the LA Times forum who is the embodiment of the Aryan Nation.
And now people are trying to blame Obama.
I'd laugh if it wasn't so sad.
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Patrick Sawyer
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Originally California now Ireland
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Feb 12, 2013 - 03:21am PT
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Graniteclimber, for once I agree with you. If indeed he did shoot the Quan gal and her fiancé, then he should go down for that. Big time.
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And why the heck is Charlie Sheen involved in this mess. Anger management I guess. (PS, I still think his father is a better actor, but stealing my late, late, late relative's name - Josiah Bartlett - is unforgivable, but I'll blame the West Wing writers for that. Josiah Bartlett, second man to sign the Declaration of Independence, a physician and New Hampshire's representative to the Continental Congress).
There, now you have it. And if Dorner wants to come after me, he will have to cross the big pond.
And anyway, the skiing is better in Kirkwood and Reba/Bear. Why go south to Big Bear? Someday, even though I am a crap skier, Mammoth is on my tick list.
Uhhhh, Dorner wouldn't be hanging out in Mammoth, would he?
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Feb 26, 2013 - 11:02pm PT
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It's the new way to cut the budget.
Just kill the suspect. Lead is cheap... sorta.
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kennyt
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Woodfords,California
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Apr 24, 2013 - 06:36pm PT
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That must have been one nice truck! I hope they were Illegals that should get the "righties" fired up.LOL
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Dapper Dan
Trad climber
Menlo Park
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Apr 24, 2013 - 06:39pm PT
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As usual, the citizens of LA are on the hook for the bill.
How about take the 4.2 out of the LAPD pension fund ...?
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kennyt
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Woodfords,California
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Apr 24, 2013 - 06:41pm PT
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yeah, I guess that's the f*#ked up part.
But they were protecting you right?
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