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hobo_dan
Social climber
Minnesota
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 10, 2013 - 10:45am PT
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Yes, I get that no one here is wishing for someone to perish. the point I was trying to make is that, as a joke it does not work- IMO. It just comes across as crude bordering on pointless.
For example: Someone brings up a plan or a climb or a goal they have and then the reply is YGD--why would you say that? It's not clever, it adds nothing to the discussion, it seems like small potatoes. It's a show stopper. We can do better.
YOSAR or rescue crews are not my point- They work in and with tragedy and need to be able to release. I get that. But that is not what we're talking about here.
Pete I'll take you up on the beer.
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fat-n-sassy
Social climber
San Francity, CA
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Feb 10, 2013 - 10:47am PT
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dude
is
totally
GUNA DIE
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GhoulweJ
Trad climber
El Dorado Hills, CA
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Feb 10, 2013 - 10:51am PT
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Levity Dan...
We're all just getting through our complicated lives and some choose to chuckle at the obsurdity of it all.
Your view is yours.
U want us to see through your lens for a moment.
I looked
It was boring.
We're all gonna die
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Gilroy
Social climber
Bolderado
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Feb 10, 2013 - 11:13am PT
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It is pointless, hobo dan. It is levity. It is one of our markers around this campfire, a stone you refuse to kick along but I find it satisfying in a Sisyphusian sense of senselessness.
''Them not busy being born is busy dying.''
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Feb 10, 2013 - 11:51am PT
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I have lost so many friends to climbing over the years and mourn their passings to this day. My phone is choked with the phone numbers of the dead. Can't seem to bring myself to delete them.
I do not take their deaths lightly but I can still laugh at death. Have you ever had a near death experience or witnessed someone who has? Did you ever notice the propensity of the survivor to laugh almost hysterically? Just dodging a bullet is as serious as it gets but often leaves the survivor chortling. It is not disrespect of the dead but appreciation of the living and It is a human coping mechanism.
I would suggest that if the flippant comments some climbers make offend you then you should probably stay clear of the BASE jumping crowd. Now those cats have some dark humor. In fact here is a joke about a BASE death that I made up after the event.
The lead up to the Halloween after Dwain Westin split himself in half by hitting the Royal Gorge Bridge at 120 mph in a wing suit ten feet away from me I was driving my daughter to school.
She was throwing a terrible hissy fit about only being able to come up with half a costume. I looked at her in the rear view mirror and said "You could go as Dwain Westin".
Badumpbump-rimshot. True story.
The BASE jumpers loved that one. And it was no disrespect to Dwain.
I think it is a feeling that if you can't laugh about death you will cry about life.
One of the ways I coped was to turn the experience into a painting that I call "Event Horizon".
Macabre? Perhaps.
RIP Dwain Westin. You lived your life head on, on your own terms, went out with a bang and didn't leave too much of a mess behind.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Feb 10, 2013 - 12:44pm PT
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Gallows humor is merely a defense mechanism.
Look at any joke. There has to be a victim for us to laugh at, even if it is ourselves.
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portent
climber
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Feb 10, 2013 - 12:49pm PT
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I think about the guys I knew who lost it with their boots on and I'd trade any of the "YGD" people in a second for my old friends.
Nice to know you'd trade someone you've never met over 3 words, you seem like a grade "A" as#@&%e... anonymity, the beauty of the internet.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Feb 10, 2013 - 12:59pm PT
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I always yell "yer gonna die" when I see climbers up on a wall as I float and bloat down the river. I always wondered if they thought it was funny or not. I know I would.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Feb 10, 2013 - 01:21pm PT
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I always thought that the whole point was to see how much living you could do beforehand.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Feb 10, 2013 - 01:26pm PT
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Is running around with metal plates ( or some other material) in yer backpack armed to the max for self protection living?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Feb 10, 2013 - 02:14pm PT
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I don't have to outrun the bear.
I just have to outrun YOU.
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GhoulweJ
Trad climber
El Dorado Hills, CA
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Feb 10, 2013 - 02:29pm PT
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Kenny we all choose our way
Me, I think getting stoned is a way to waste your life. I think it's friggin stupid. I think it makes people stupid.
U think my guns are stupid and giving my nephew back pack armor is stupid.
Whatever man.
EDIT: I've NEVER been stoned or tried ILLEGAL drugs.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Feb 10, 2013 - 02:41pm PT
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I think It's sad that some company has come up with something this silly and probably very ineffective as away to seperate people from a few hundred bucks. That's it nothing else. did I question your sobriety in some way? I haven't been stoned in thirty years for wtf it's worth.
Ron, what Bear are you talking about?
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GhoulweJ
Trad climber
El Dorado Hills, CA
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Feb 10, 2013 - 02:45pm PT
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No u didn't hit my sobriety.
Just a way of mentioning we all have opinions on living our lives.
Oh and that pack plate.... VERY common choice of public officials. Though the coverage is limited, it's large enough to offer COM protection.
If u should be inclined... It is not a bad choice for you and yours should feel the need.
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GhoulweJ
Trad climber
El Dorado Hills, CA
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Feb 10, 2013 - 02:54pm PT
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To stay on topic...
Even with plates...
We're gonna die
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Feb 10, 2013 - 03:21pm PT
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Nothing wrong with the ganja, pal.
If I didn't tell anyone that I smoke, it would never even cross their minds.
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The Call Of K2 Lou
climber
Squamish
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Feb 10, 2013 - 03:31pm PT
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EDIT: I've NEVER been stoned or tried ILLEGAL drugs.
I have a Keith Richards-like capacity for toxicity, so I'm sure I've covered your share, but if I moved in next door...
Your lawn's gonna die!
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Feb 10, 2013 - 04:45pm PT
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hey there say, hobo_dan...
nice to hear from you...
say, as to the story of the gal with the illness, i sure do understand what you are feeling and mean, as well...
also, after reading certain post from various climbers here,
i can see why and how, the various guys/gals share their
expression of that phrase...
however, as to me... i am more inclined toward //your
vein//, mined from the rocks of our human structure's way of life on this
ol' earth--fragile as it is, due to this,
though, in my case:
i'd say a bit more:
i always felt that knowing we do die, we should do our best at living every day--so i just use the invented 'motto' of my own,
as my 'battle cry' so to speak, or 'call to arms' while here on earth:
how do i live this out?
"we best get to life now!"
or, in the case of my babies that i had:
"how do i get them to live, and, to their best in it?"
so my feelings are more of a HOW not to WASTE the moment,
so i was always more immersed in that thought, so the climber 'die' expression is not what i'd lean towards saying, it's 'saved for that one day that only god knows of', or said when we 'feel it coming' and
NEED that 'spring board' to go...
i think the MAIN reason, i always felt that was this:
i used to babysit, and i feared to do my best for them (the babies, or kids)...
then, the hardest thing i ever HAD, as my own, in my life was:
having my very own babies!!!! their FULL all time care, was in MY
hands, and judgements were for THEIR life!...
at once, i fully knew that they could die, babies do die in their sleep, and you learn that lesson fast... even when you THINK 'this is it, i have a baby', and you've birthed it safe-and-sound, you know it is not to be, for some. :( :O
thus, each day was: how to live... lets DO IT...
OUR time will come--and when it does, we face that day,
with the knowledge, then, of 'how to do it our best' as well...
thanks for sharing this, hobo_dan...
*or if it is a loved one, dying, 'how do we help them'
or if we can't, and they have died too fast: 'how to we help their family get through it?"
and now,perhaps for you:
how do you help your student/friend, get through HER process...
god bless to you, as you are working on this....
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Feb 10, 2013 - 05:00pm PT
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Hobo Dan has never been to a sushifest.
If he had been he would have known,..
YER GONNA DINE!
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