martygarrison
Trad climber
Washington DC
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Feb 21, 2013 - 07:44am PT
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For climbing and approaches I always like this puppy.
Carried a full rack and a rope no problem. Tough and you can haul it if need be.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Feb 21, 2013 - 09:09am PT
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Arc-Teryx Muira 50
+ Another.
Mister E is the reason I have one. We all pitched in and got one for the Doc. Then E said "hey, this pack is awesome" and bought one for himself. Then we went cragging one day and I got a thorough look at his along with positive testimony. So I got one shortly after.
That was about 4 years ago. Best pack I've had.
Second place: BD Bullet. Perfect size, great design, reasonably priced. Whether wearing on routes, or just stuffing my shoes/snacks/etc in and tossing inside my crashpad, I use this one all the time.
Third: Original Dana Designs Terraplane. Heavy, but if I have to carry a lot of stuff, and/or heavy stuff, this thing is a Cadillac. The bag itself is a very simple, but perfect thought out design. Suspension works great. Very well built.
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
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Feb 21, 2013 - 10:09am PT
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Mine was an ancient "Wilderness exerience" design, that had an ALL leather bottom to one third of it.. One of the first internal frame designs. That was one tough pack, and it had over twenty years of punishment before the demise.
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Fletcher
Trad climber
The great state of advaita
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Feb 21, 2013 - 10:47am PT
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Some really cool stuff here!
I'll reiterate my enchantment with the Cold Cold World Ozone for cragging. Finally did get out and use it this past weekend and the love abides.
I've long used a Lowe Contour iV (from about 1992-93) for backpacking. As Colin Fletcher would say, it's a "great bloody sack." Not a lot a frills, but space galore and comfy. 6,000+ cubic inches. Norman Clyde would be proud (though probably a bit small for him!). The pads are all worn out and I replaced it with a CiloGear 45L WorkSack for alpine climbing. It feels like a feather by comparison and will help keep me from bring the kitchen sink on those kinds of trips. I hope!
But for backpacking (especially where you're carrying all the kids stuff) that Lowe is the best. Thinking of getting it refurbed by that guy in, I think, Blue Canyon CA, who does that stuff. Anyone recall his contact info off the top of your head?
I have a boat load of other packs, but those are my faves.
Eric
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RDB
Social climber
wa
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Feb 21, 2013 - 11:22am PT
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Pretty much the same pack I have been using since the late '70s. The direct ancestor of a Chouinard Fish pack. Just in modern materials made by Randy @ CCW with a few tweaks. These days I generally go with no lid and have two versions. One to climb (clean exterior) with and one to BC ski with, that has a quick compression/ski attachment system.
details here:
http://coldthistle.blogspot.com/2011/01/my-climbing-pack.html
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Roots
Mountain climber
SoCal
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Feb 21, 2013 - 11:50am PT
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Cold Cold World..modified Valdez by Randy.
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paul roehl
Boulder climber
california
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Feb 21, 2013 - 01:47pm PT
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When super topo is good, it's really good. Somebody from the taco just emailed me a website where I found that red canvas rucsac with a leather bottom and I ordered it and I'm pretty darn happy... Thanks! I've looked and looked for one. Much appreciated.
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The Call Of K2 Lou
climber
Squamish
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Feb 21, 2013 - 02:51pm PT
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Arc-Teryx Muira 50
+ Another.
And yet another still. Love it! I have a self-imposed "Minimum Weight" for my Miura. It doesn't go out the door unless it weighs at least 15 kg/32 lbs. I've had two potential epics turn out to be fondly remembered nights under the stars as a result. Also, the Pali ropebag that fits in the pack bottom is just the bee's knees.
I'm sure many a SuperTopoan is familiar with this Canuck brand. I have too many to count, but my standard every-single-daypack for about 12 years was a 30 litre Brio Crag. Still use it, still looks new(ish), and bet the rent that it'll be around long after I've been made into worms' meat.
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DickMcfartin
Ice climber
soewhere over the rainbow....
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Feb 21, 2013 - 09:21pm PT
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The pack i hate to love...
In all honesty it is giant little POS as it is only one year old with maybe 90-100 days of use in it. Little sh#t is falling apart all over it.
None the less i love how light and simple the pack is. I use it without the back pad as just a floppy empty sack and no waste belt. adding to the simplicity. Guess you gotta pay to play but at $500 never ever again. I so wish it held up to use better as the size and fit are perfect. Durability not so perfect the WNW material is great it just everything sewn into it or onto it that is the problem...
Needless to say a custom Cold Cold World Ozone is in the mail!
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LuckyNeck
Trad climber
the basement of Lou's Tavern
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Feb 21, 2013 - 10:02pm PT
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It's mine and it fits like a glove.
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NoTokeRedKneck
climber
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Feb 22, 2013 - 06:22am PT
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I can't remember the Kelty model but i think it was Tioga
or Sonora. Anyways the Kelty was not frameless and did not have
a aluminum hindged waist support as did the JanSport's of that era.
The frame keeps movement from matter inside the pack off of your
body. When making shoulder strap adjustments for weight transfer
going up hill or downhill the hinged waist suppport became more
uncomfortable than the padded waist support which could be moved
more to my liking over rough terrain.
My JanSport rock climbing pack like the 1'st pictured was my
favorite for rock climbing, but they can all be just about
as uncomfortable. 100-200+ mile trips usually have more
extended periods of time wearing the pack so the old Kelty is
my favorite pack.
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NoTokeRedKneck
climber
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Feb 22, 2013 - 06:57am PT
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That be it. Listed as Sonora, mine was a extra large. Carried 80 lbs.
at 160 lbs. Id pick it now for another long trek over a new frameless.
Sold it in the 80's.
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T Hocking
Trad climber
Redding, Ca
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Feb 22, 2013 - 07:10am PT
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^^^
The Kelty external frame packs were the gold standard in the 60's & 70's,
I had an early 70's Tioga that served me well for 25 yrs.
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whitemeat
Trad climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Feb 22, 2013 - 07:15am PT
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well I have two:
the metoulious sentinal or quarter dome for cragging, mine got stolen last year:(.
and for wearing while you climb to carry your lunch, water, and that extra cam on a multipitch adventure in yosemite the REI flash, its only $25!
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LL LL
Sport climber
moving thru
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2013 - 07:30pm PT
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Thanks for all the info garnered so far. I hope you all keep it coming. Helps many to decide what the heck is there for them in todays gear world.
I sometimes wonder, being in the "in between" generation, is the frameless pack I just got for back packing better than the old Kelty exterior framed packs?
I work in an outdoor sports gig and most are too young to even have experienced the exterior frames.
Used a great interior frame on my recent desert trip but....I have nothing to compare with. Jammed a lot into it at 45 lbs. and it carried fine.
I guess it's not about the gear. It's about you and going and making your dreams come true. Maybe too much emphasis on gear and not enough on the dreams. lynnie
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username
climber
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Feb 22, 2013 - 07:49pm PT
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I'm too lazy to take pics of my actual pack, but I've been using a Cilogear 40b for the last 2 years for everything from backpacking the Grand Canyon, hiking and peak bagging, carrying gear to the crag, trail work, flights, biking to work, you name it.
Reinforced the bottom and I couldn't be happier. Super light and comfy.
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Fletcher
Trad climber
The great state of advaita
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Feb 22, 2013 - 07:57pm PT
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Hi Lynnie,
Here is a general rule for internal vs. external (as always, there are exceptions):
External frame packs are very good at what they do: carrying large loads on trails. They excel when you need to strap odd shaped things on. Think Norman Clyde and cast iron fry pans!
Internal frame packs are better when off trail and scrambling, since (when fit properly) it fits your body more closely and is more inline with your skeletal structure (that's the idea anyway). They tend to hold less that externals.
So it depends on what you want to do. It really helps to find someone who can help you fit a pack. Just like shoes, on model is great for one and a nightmare for someone else. Have someone measure your torso length (C4 vertebra—the bump at the base of your neck to your tailbone). Once you know that length, it will help you size a pack.
Happy trails!
Eric
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Feb 22, 2013 - 08:08pm PT
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I guess it's not about the gear. It's about you and going and making your dreams come true. Maybe too much emphasis on gear and not enough on the dreams. lynnie
-words to live by!!
Gear's cool too though!
I had an adventure yesterday made possible by the technology in a silent partner. Other ways I could have done it but that was definitely the most elegant tool for that outing!
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LL LL
Sport climber
moving thru
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2013 - 08:25pm PT
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Thanks for the post Jaybro. Are you ever coming to So Cal or shall I see you at TPR? How is life and teaching and the Wyde? Yo stellar. Cheers, lynnie
ps and how be the darling nieces and family? Again Cheers, joy and peace.
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