Why I've quit participating on S-T. Probably others, too.

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Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Feb 2, 2013 - 12:41pm PT
Rankin, yes, there are those who are dicks and as#@&%es in every crowd but the vast majority of climbers in Yosemite never experience the issues you mention. Again, you find what you look for.
adatesman

climber
philadelphia, pa
Feb 2, 2013 - 12:42pm PT
Don't really care enough to read several pages of whatever, but let me say this, Brokedownclimber: I can't disagree more.

In fact, as a mostly-lurker (for far longer than you) I'm posting now more than ever. ST is what you make of it, and frankly it's turned into my go-to place to ask advice on most any topic as chances are there's someone here that's got experience with most anything you can come up with. Case in point, I recently ran into hydraulic problems with a 1950's backhoe and all sorts of lurkers I'd never heard of popped up to help.

Sure, climbing topics will lead to your self-appointed-know-it-alls coming out of the woodwork, but frankly pretty much every climbing topic has been beaten to death here and the natives get tired of rehashing things over an over again. Frankly, unless it's a TR or a question about a specific technique I'm not sure there's anything you could ask here that couldn't be answered with a quick Search.

Other thought is IMO calling T*R out like that was bad form. Good or bad, she's got a lot of history here, and I seem to recall her being around prior to 2007 under a different name. Which, if my math adds up, is a lot more time on ST than you have. Like her or not, she's your senior here and I'm not sure you're one to judge.

Just my 2pfennig.
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Feb 2, 2013 - 12:59pm PT
Like I said before, just read Herr Braun posts. Pure enlightenment.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Feb 2, 2013 - 01:10pm PT
adatesman I'm glad you found a home here. This jail is way better'n that other'n. And this bloke won't steal your work (like them other'uns)

DMT
adatesman

climber
philadelphia, pa
Feb 2, 2013 - 01:25pm PT
Ancient history, Dingus. Ancient history. :-)
Nor Cal

Trad climber
San Mateo
Feb 2, 2013 - 01:57pm PT
recently? ha, this forum went down hill years ago. I used to post under my name until I got in a beef with someone from So Cal, so now I am Nor Cal (nothing to do with surfing).
I come by and lurk once in a while, but not too often. I posted last summer with the thought that I could get some slings back that my partner left in Tuolumne and I was abused. I recall that Locker had some nice things to say to me about leaving the slings behind! After all I am just a weekend warrior and not a hard man like he is!
I will post again, but it will be selective.
For what it is worth (and that is not much to the crowd) I started posting here over a dozen years ago.
ron gomez

Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
Feb 2, 2013 - 02:01pm PT
JohnTP, glad to hear you're starting to climb again. I too flail, if you need a flailing partner, give me a ringalingding, I need to get my skills back in order and get back to climbing a lot more than I do now. Glad Rodger put this up, especially if we can get climbing again.
Peace
Forest

Trad climber
Lafayette, CO
Feb 2, 2013 - 02:15pm PT
I've been hanging out at SuperTopo for over 3 years now

Noob!!!

Oh, damn. He has more posts than me...
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Feb 2, 2013 - 02:54pm PT
Ron, Thanks. I need to work on core strength and balance.


My point is that I probably would never have got back in the game were it not for the taco. It has taken some time and I am so lame; can we spell goober? But it is FUN!
ron gomez

Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
Feb 2, 2013 - 02:56pm PT
Like I said.....let's go!
Peace
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Feb 2, 2013 - 03:06pm PT
JohnTP.... Good to get going again.

Come on out to Stoney... that will get you balance and core.

A lot has changed in 20 years, no?
Jennie

Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
Feb 2, 2013 - 03:31pm PT
Best wishes Rodger...I've appreciated your thnoughtful and positive presence on ST

Don't lock the gate behind you...
Rankin

Social climber
Greensboro, North Carolina
Feb 2, 2013 - 03:45pm PT
Mark, not sure what you mean when you say, "you find what you're looking for." Are you saying that my buddies on top of the Prow were looking for trouble, which is why these guys were rude to them? Doesn't seem that way to me.

I was climbing the first pitch of one of my first routes in the Valley, Serenity to Sons, when Singer, comes rappelling down the pitch. I was a little uncomfortable on the pin scars but managing just fine. Right when he gets along side of me, he screams at me, tying to rattle me and as a way to say, "f*#k you." I've never encountered behavior like this in any other climbing area in 20 years of climbing. I'm not saying it's common in the Valley, because it's not. I'm saying it happens there more, regardless of what anyone is "looking for."
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2013 - 04:05pm PT
I may have given the mistaken impression that I'm leaving on a permenant basis, I'm taking some time out to decompress from the BS scenario.

I love S-T, and I love the people, so I can't simply walk away. It's a behavior issue; many people need to grow the fuk up and quit slandering and defaming others simply beacuse you don't agree with them.
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Feb 2, 2013 - 04:20pm PT
+ 1 ^^^
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Feb 2, 2013 - 04:29pm PT
After all I am just a weekend warrior and not a hard man like he is!

LMAO

There does seem to be am outbreak of SAD every year about this time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasonal_affective_disorder

Anyone want to buy a sunlamp?

phylp

Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
Feb 2, 2013 - 04:54pm PT
Hey Rodger, this just seems like a good place to say hello to you!
Hope we get to connect in COR this year sometime.
Take good care, Phyl
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Feb 2, 2013 - 05:00pm PT
Rankin, dicks will be dicks, pass on them and don't give them a moments notice.
Woody the Beaver

Trad climber
Soldier, Idaho
Feb 2, 2013 - 05:21pm PT
Yo, Brokedown, consider posting if you're heading for the City of Rocks again this year. I'd like to say howdy. Missed it last year.
Rankin

Social climber
Greensboro, North Carolina
Feb 2, 2013 - 05:27pm PT
Mark, Thx. That is good advice for anywhere.
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