Vote to end the ban on gays in the Boy Scouts right now!


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Social climber
Jan 30, 2013 - 04:47pm PT
Good step. Hopefully that organization can evolve past the Spanish inquisitions moral code. Lol.

Although I agree that you can have whatever hate clubs that make you happy do long as you don't act on it...

Jan 30, 2013 - 04:53pm PT
It's a yes and no thing for me...

I think each troop should have it's own policies. Especially since many Churches run scout troops. I think a troop being forced to accept someone they naturally would not isn't a good thing either. I would hate to see a gay boy put in a place where people will try to "cure" him, not really accept him. It can become a very hostile environment, etc. which doesn't do anyone any favors. Policies do not change behavior...

Yet I think if there is a troop opened minded enough to handle such a child, it can work. Why the heck not... I just think it's important for a parent of a gay child to be careful what they ask from others, especially folks that are not willing. Forcing folks creates new levels of hostility that will not help anyone grow, evolve, etc. Now if a parent of a gay child will take it on themselves to create a troop that is good for their child, willing to go the extra mile and find other children that wouldn't mind it... Then I agree. Especially since the troop is designed for just that in the first place, isn't bending others who are not ready for such an evolution. :)

Dave Kos

Social climber
Jan 30, 2013 - 04:55pm PT
Neckerchiefs are gay.

Reno, NV
Jan 30, 2013 - 05:04pm PT
Why next, people of color may want to join? Or women? Sheesh! These nerve of these people!

Or worse, an out ATHEIST! Which apparently they still won't accept, even if they change their policy on out gays.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Jan 30, 2013 - 05:38pm PT
I was a Boy Scout until I got into high school, seemed a bit gay after that. The one guy who stayed in and became a scout leader was almost certainly gay. My scout master lived down the street from us, I remember being home on leave and my dad telling me about how the scout master (a very stand up guy) got outed for having swing parties at his house. That was a way weird conversation with dad in 1979, like all good dads he was straight up square.

I did not have my son join the scouts, really don't think they offer anything I can not provide, and I do not like their policy regarding gays.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jan 30, 2013 - 05:44pm PT
on the one hand its an organizations right to have rules. On the other , gays have a right to be gay. I dont deny either of their choosing.

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 30, 2013 - 06:33pm PT
When I was a kid, the local scout master's son got beat up after we found out he was forcing the younger kids in the hood to suck his dick in their trailer.

I think having openly gay members would be a huge improvement over the rampant repressed homosexuality they currently foster. But the BSA sucks, regardless.

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Jan 30, 2013 - 06:38pm PT
I realize a lot of folks here at the Taco had great experiences in the Boy Scouts.

The only Boy Scout troop in the small Idaho town I grew up in was Mormon.

The Mormom Church has an elaborate & careful plan for their boy scouts.

Kids from many faiths, including my slightly Christian background, joined the local Mormon troop. Some did very well, but I didn't. Guess I just wasn't good at being in a para-military youth group. I really am not a "joiner" or an "organization man" to this day.

Sport climber
Jan 30, 2013 - 06:46pm PT
That was the scariest thing I've read in a LONG TIME.

Dingleberry Gulch, Ideeho
Jan 30, 2013 - 06:57pm PT
Vote to end the ban on anything anywhere anytime and this will be just peachy.

Social climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2013 - 07:00pm PT
let's just ban banning stuff.

Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
Jan 30, 2013 - 09:23pm PT
Many LDS church wards have been disregarding BSA policy and including gay youths in scouting activities. Generally, Mormon leaders believe including “chaste gays” in scouting is positive.

LDS church is largest sponsor of the Boy Scouts in the U.S.

Jan 30, 2013 - 09:38pm PT

Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
Jan 30, 2013 - 10:24pm PT
Michelle posted:
I suspect many children who start the path don't have a clue about their sexual orientation.

...if the current genesis of early teens catalogue and classify themselves as gay or straight...they must be the first to do so!

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jan 30, 2013 - 10:36pm PT
FACT: private organizations, like the BSA, can and do legally have the right to refuse anyone, anyone, as a member, can refuse Jews, blacks, asians, gays, anyone

Make a club yourself right now, you can legally decide who can join.

There are rules that define club or organization for this legal interpretation

Remember Augusta National Golf Club where they play the Masters?

They have legally refused to admit women for 80 years, and just changed that policy a year ago.

Social climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2013 - 10:41pm PT
Donald. a predator is a predator, regardless of organization. You sound kind of closet to me.


Social climber
the Wastelands
Jan 30, 2013 - 10:46pm PT
This is a play for Obama stash- you know the kind that has caused multi-trillion dollar deficits.

Donald, you continually show yourself to be young, naive, immature, and quite ignorant.

You could not factually debate a high school kid on federal deficits.

Twice now on this page you tried real hard to take a shot at "liberals' and "obama"

you are sick, stupid, youngster who needs his ass kicked

in fact, you remind me a lot of Skipt, who got banned here for his arrogant ignorance

he IS your cousin, is he not? Just like you, dumb and dumber

Trad climber
Jan 30, 2013 - 10:53pm PT
You 'mericans look so silly from up here in Canuckistan.

Check it out

Are Homosexuals Allowed to Join Scouts Canada?

Scouts Canada does not discriminate for reasons of gender, culture, religious belief or sexual orientation.

(Also, girls have been allowed in scouts in Canada since '98.)

Social climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2013 - 11:09pm PT
well hell, let's just end ALL organizations for children since it makes it easier to predate. oh, and schools. what a joke dude.


Social climber
North Vancouver BC
Jan 30, 2013 - 11:16pm PT
I'd rather have a gay scout leader then the Catholic priest who traditionally was a Boy Scout leader in Canada. I spent a couple weeks in Boy Scouts when I was younger, but my Spidey sense told me there was something wrong about that priest who liked to watch boys shower.
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