18 murdered, dumped in portrero chico; climbers are fleeing

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dirt claud

Social climber
san diego,ca
Feb 1, 2013 - 05:49pm PT
Sh#t, I didn't know I was writing an essay for college. You guys post here and know how fast paced this sh#t can get and you are going to blast me for that. I try my best to check my spelling before posting, but didn't really think any Professors would get upset over some grammatical errors. Fair enough. would you be kind enough to run through my posts and point out all my spelling errors. I mean it's really relevant to the whole topic here.

patrick compton

Trad climber
van
Feb 1, 2013 - 05:50pm PT
Yes, the internet age is a succubus on grammar and spelling. We'll all be writing like we are special ed in 20 years.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 1, 2013 - 05:59pm PT
I mean it's really relevant to the whole topic here.

It is entirely relevant. It is not a simple spelling mistake. It is a persistent ignorance of the difference between two common words. You cun't vary wall argue about the ignorance if otters of you don't knew the weaning of the wards you use.
dirt claud

Social climber
san diego,ca
Feb 1, 2013 - 06:03pm PT
As I said before Mechrist, you are a special kind of Prick. You gonna go ahead and leg hump me know and follow all my posts so you can call me ignorant. You are f*#kin moron dude. But I know the net is your life and you get off on this sh#t so have fun. I'll be looking for you to check all posts for spelling as well. Or you just have a hard on for me, not anyone else. This internet sh#t is so funny. Have fun on ST the rest of the evening.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 1, 2013 - 06:07pm PT
No, I'm simply going to ignore you, as usual, until you start going off about ignorance while committing grammatical atrocities that would shame an 8 year old.
pat

Trad climber
estes park
Feb 1, 2013 - 06:23pm PT
Mexico has much stricter gun control laws than the US, and a much higher murder rate.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Feb 1, 2013 - 06:24pm PT
^^Oh gawd, here we go again^^
Manny

Social climber
tempe
Feb 1, 2013 - 06:26pm PT
Ron, Dirt Claud I am simply willing to let everyone believe what they want as long as they don't force me to accept their belief as my truth, whether it is about race or guns. Just because you're a wacko (not saying either of you are)doesn't mean I won't climb with you.

I usually try to ask about facts to refute arguments based on hearsay or opinion. Which is why I was so incensed by R&I initial report about bodies thrown into Homeros well. That was akin to throwing another log on the fire and what got me into this thread. Now here we are. Back to the Treasure of the Sierra Madre, "badges, badges, we don't go to show you no stinking badges!" Classic Mexican bad guy nightmare for everyone.



pat

Trad climber
estes park
Feb 1, 2013 - 06:30pm PT
Not arguing for or against Mono, just pointing out some facts and inconsistencies. I am not a gun person, I just think the debate has very little to do with the cause of the gun violence which shows insincerity on our parts as Americans.

^^^
They have been applied, vast majority of ordinary Mexicans don't own guns. Cartels do which they acquired illegally.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Feb 1, 2013 - 06:40pm PT
Mexico is in the midst of a full blown narco insurgancy. you simply can not compare the US violent crime and ramdom mass shootings to a civil war.. Different game entirly.
pat

Trad climber
estes park
Feb 1, 2013 - 06:54pm PT
And if we enacted the same level of gun control here in the US as in Mexico we would be able to enforce them? Really? Does this not show that despite gun control laws people wind up with guns anyway? Deadly ones? What makes the US more able to deal with it? Is not the war of the Federales against the cartels partly a war to control them and disarm them?

Where is the discussion on mental health? Where is the discussion on non-violence? Where is the discussion on responsible parenting? Its drowned out because those things aren't contentious enough get politicians elected and require sincere change that has to come from ourselves. The gun control debate is a ruse, it will accomplish nothing to prevent these shootings just as it did nothing to prevent violence in Mexico.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Feb 1, 2013 - 07:07pm PT
Driving back to Copper Canyon in two weeks, can't wait. Chicken sh#t Americans, more guns than they know what to do with and are still afraid of their own shadow.
pat

Trad climber
estes park
Feb 1, 2013 - 07:11pm PT
That's exactly what I am saying Coz, though I disagree with your assessment of the violence in Mexico. I think there is something to be learned in Mexico.
S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Feb 1, 2013 - 07:15pm PT
Heading to DF in May. I've made probably 20 trips all over Mexico.
No problems yet...
S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Feb 1, 2013 - 07:24pm PT
pick out the gringo

Credit: S.Leeper
ruppell

climber
Feb 1, 2013 - 07:27pm PT
pick out the gringo

That guy on the cross in the background?

Do I win a prize?
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Feb 1, 2013 - 07:30pm PT
the One on the cross does not look Hispanic.

whoops


but He doesn't look gringo either
S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Feb 1, 2013 - 07:32pm PT
ok there were 2 gringos in the picture.

just a few of the mexicans i love:

Credit: S.Leeper
pat

Trad climber
estes park
Feb 1, 2013 - 07:34pm PT
Hah^ good one.

I guess if you are Mormon he would be a gringo. I think I am partly a little jealous of everyone living it up and climbing long routes in Potrero. Back to work.
stilltrying

Trad climber
washington indiana
Feb 1, 2013 - 07:46pm PT
Always disappointed to see how threads become so personal. I have only climbed in PC twice. Once on my 56th bday and again on my 58th bday. Great place and fun. On the 2nd trip while waiting for Magic Ed to pick us up two military looking vehicles with about a dozen people in each, fully dressed in ninja type clothes (faces covered) and obviously loaded for Bear with weapons passed thru the Airport in Monterrey. Ed said like 50 SUV/Big Truck type vehicles had been jacked in recent weeks. Also said Drug type activity had increased in the Monterrey area. Folks at the airport were not very friendly and I got hassled big time at the airport over carabiners and small climbing gear in a small pack (no problem coming in), Searched 3 times. The people in charge spoke no English (or did not want to) and were rude to say the least. So trip #1 - not much sign of trouble, trip #2 drugs issues and cartel activity getting a little closer but no worries as it is Monterry and now apparently activity in Hildago. Guess I.m stupid, racist or something but seems like a pattern to me. Comparing people who torture, decapitate, multilate, etc. for personal gain or revenge to a sick boy and a sadly mistaken Mother to them is very bad logic. True there is danger everywhere, East St. Louis, Harlem, L.A. etc. etc. I avoid those just like I will avoid PC now. Going where there are folks who don't want you is ill advised. Really sad all these comments about us white folks. We have a lot of Hispanics here in my little town in Southern Indiana, probably a lot of them illegal,we are nice to them, some of my family teaches the young kids, speakes highly of their hard working parents and how neat the kids are. Makes her job challenging as most of the parents only speak Spanish. But we spend our resources and do what is necessary. My son adopted an African American child at birth ( is that still an acceptable term) and he is the light of our lives. Seems to me us white folks (most of us) are doing just fine in the treatment of other ethnic groups. So I just keep my fingers crossed that things don't decide to jump 2 more miles down the road. I would imagine that these vicious killers won't take race into consideration - only color that matters to them is green.
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