and I bet you thought Twight was dead????

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toadgas

Social climber
los angeles
Jan 29, 2013 - 03:32pm PT
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twight seems like a self-absorbed bore


& jello implied that twight was "uncomfortable" in the mountains



haha



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10b4me

Boulder climber
Somewhere on 395
Jan 29, 2013 - 03:35pm PT
^^^^ in Twights defense, he admits that
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Jan 29, 2013 - 03:36pm PT
If everyone would just stop using oxygen, there would be a level playing field...
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
SLO, Ca
Jan 29, 2013 - 03:44pm PT
Well, you can give up oxygen you want but I am going to continue to use it until the day I die!
coz

Gym climber
Belmont
Jan 29, 2013 - 04:00pm PT
How on God's green earth do you compare a biological need, such as oxygen, to shooting dope in the Tour de France?

That's the stupidity, that I find amazing.

Mark's a strange bird, but a nice enough guy, who really couldn't care less about what people think of him.

However, like another popular poster here, I cannot think of a single test-piece that puts him in the realm of a Jello, or Messner... Nada nothing.

orangesporanges

Social climber
Jan 29, 2013 - 05:09pm PT
I cannot think of a single test-piece that puts him in the realm of a Jello, or Messner... Nada nothing.

How about 'Beyond Good and Evil'? He was Piolet D'or nominated for that route. Or is anything but the true summit just an attempt?

And yes. MFT does actually care what others think about him - he's authored his own Wikipedia page. Twitters about himself endlessly. Has his own Youtube channel now.

Does Donini have a Youtube channel? Marko Prezelj Twitter?

MFT may be right about some-things. But, in his own words: "talk - action = zero". He left plenty of junk in the hills when he couldn't be f'd carrying it. And he 'finished' several well-sprayed routes early, just as the grade was about to start punching above 5.10.

Hollywood actors that MFT personally trained for several months speak of how he redefined mountain climbing and seem confused when they speak of him breaking "world records in mountain climbing" - watch the 300 movie interviews. Where would they have gotten that confusion from?

FAKT: House lead all the hard pitches on there big pushes. MFT "retired" from climbing when House said he wanted to start trying for FA'
s on bigger, more technical climbs in true alpine style. As for MFT's big spray about Hunter with Backes - they were following someone else's topo up a somewhat established route - it was rad, but redefining-cutting edge?

It only annoyed me because this dude confuses me. Everyone (especially himself) talks of how bad arse he was. But couldn't climb hard technical rock. Declared FA's that finished before the summit. Leaves crap on mountains because he couldn't be f'd carrying it. Makes an alpine style attempt on Everest and lamblasts others - then uses oxygen that another team had carried-up and stored for themselves when his partner gets sick. And cheats on his wife, when she was essentially paying all the bills so he could 'afford' to live and climb in Chamonix for years.

Funny guy - maybe? Class act nice guy? - I've never met him, informed only by what he has written about himself (with a different slight).

He ought not be an ethical voice for extreme modern alpinism - because he never lived by it.
toadgas

Social climber
los angeles
Jan 29, 2013 - 05:27pm PT
^^^^^^^^


I'm glad that Twight constantly twitters about himself, must be fascinating to sit around all day and follow Twight's thoughts about himself....


I was never able to finish reading his articles about himself, cause they read like they were written by a maudlin high school kid


many common folk will criticize him, hapless gumbys who struggle on 5.7 and whatnot, cause twight put himself in the public eye as a "professional climber" with a blowhard bent for self-publicity


similarly, fat slobs will sit on the couch and criticize LeBron James

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coz

Gym climber
Belmont
Jan 29, 2013 - 05:39pm PT
Yes, I wasn't aware Mark did those climbs on his own, I knew he had partners... Guys who are the real deal.

I worked on 300 with Mark, spend four months with the guy.

He did get along with some actors and others not so much.

I won't comment on that experience, because I actually like the guy and my dealings with him; he always proved to be a straight up honest man, and a freaking wonder of psychical fitness.


EDIT, there a lot of BS in Hollywood, his friend Logan Hood, became a trainer for the star after the film, and people didn't even know I was a climber: }
EDIT EDIT, I never heard Mark talk about his climbing once, except to say it gave him grey hair and he's not dyeing it, he's proud of it. He's a bad ass guy, really intense and hardcore, not everyone's cup of tea, maybe he has done some note worthy climbs, and is modest about them, I think this is closer to the truth.

Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jan 29, 2013 - 08:15pm PT
I didn't know him well, but did run into him a few times in the 90s when he was at the height of his climbing fame. He was modest, humble, and friendly. And since I had nothing to offer him in terms of career boost or fame, there was no need for him to fake any of that. It just seemed to be how he was.

Maybe some of you guys who are clawing at him ought to think about just how well you really know him.
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Jan 29, 2013 - 08:53pm PT
I wish MT would join this forum and rant at us in person.

That would be AWESOME.


It would be like two Donninis. Or like having Rokjox back only better.






He's very good at marketing too: http://gymjones.com
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jan 29, 2013 - 08:54pm PT
Nah he'd be better off sticking to alpinism.. This place is REALLY dangerous.
RDB

Social climber
wa
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2013 - 09:03pm PT
Burn it down and salt the earth behind you...
I like the syle.
WBraun

climber
Jan 29, 2013 - 09:14pm PT
Hey you guys....

Tell Mark Twight to come on this forum and talk some sh!t instead of being a tweety bird on twitter.

WTF is this twitter bullsh!t anyways?

Go ahead man .... tell him to come here and kick some ass ......
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Jan 29, 2013 - 09:15pm PT
Now we do know it is possible for those who train hard enough and get lucky enough. It would be cool if getting up Everest would be done only by those who do it without O2 (and other drugs that bring the mountain down to your level). Than the achievement would actually mean something. Something only a few can do, you know? Kind of like red pointing a 5.14 or something, not every guy with enough money can do it. Have to put a life time of work into it.


Wrong - it is absolutely impossible for most people and has nothing to do with training.
The Sherpa who have climbed it many times will tell you that you are a dangerous idiot for even trying - i talked to many of them in person about it.
Sure a few people are genetic freaks but even they take huge chances and who knows what kind of damage they are doing to their brain in the long term. With what we know about the fragility of Football players and Hockey players brains now my guess is that it is not trivial.

This entire conversation is idiotic - has nothing to do with LA or tourists getting hauled up Everest,
It's just some stupid arrogant self absorbed sh#t that dumb asses blather on about because they have nothing better to do and have minds the size of walnuts - ironically they can't even live up to the ideal themselves.

And Diamox kicks ass - you're an idiot if you go to the Himalaya and do not use it because some moron says it is cheating - but do as you wish..
WBraun

climber
Jan 29, 2013 - 09:17pm PT
have nothing better to do and have minds the size of walnuts


LOL you sound as bad as I do

hahahaha ......
RDB

Social climber
wa
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2013 - 09:26pm PT
"diamox kicks ass"

Ya, no bias there. Glad I could piss in your cereal bowl this morning.
ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Jan 29, 2013 - 09:35pm PT
maybe he has done some note worthy climbs, and is modest about them

first statement is more or less valid; second is a joke
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Jan 29, 2013 - 10:19pm PT
Say ... Anybody here on the forum by chance have an opinion on Mark Twight? haha.
Thanks for the link Dane.
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Jan 29, 2013 - 10:32pm PT
LOL you sound as bad as I do

Must come with dealing with dead people all the time, eh Werner.
You learn what is important..


It annoys me because it is dangerous advice and sets silly precedent in peoples minds.
It seems like some people just can't help but be authoritarian in their pursuits - guess it makes them feel better about themselves.
It's a way of saying the stupid f*#king sh#t i do is more important than the stupid f*#king sh#t you do - meanwhile you are both stupid f*#ks cause a little boy who is dying from cancer just had his f*#king Play Station stolen.

The whole, telling folks what do sh#t really urkes the f*#k out of me..
Juat eat a dick already and STFU
stupid americans

lol
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Jan 29, 2013 - 10:43pm PT
Juat eat a dick already and STFU

Go lick a decomposed vagina and stop telling us what to fkin do mofukka! cuz sht u do aint nottin!

lol


jk
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