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Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Jan 30, 2013 - 11:37am PT
I just upgraded from cs3 to cs5
and i'm lovin it!
froodish

Social climber
Portland, Oregon
Jan 30, 2013 - 12:52pm PT
If you already have an older version of photoshop on your computer,
you can upgrade to the latest version for about 200 dollars.

Depends how old the older version is. Adobe used to allow upgrades from any previous version. They changed that policy a few years back. Now they only allow 2 versions back or newer to qualify for upgrade pricing.
ryanb

climber
Seattle, WA
Jan 30, 2013 - 01:32pm PT
Lightroom has a "copy photos into my library" or "import in place" setting. I think iphoto has the same which should let you import and index the same folders of images with both without having either keep a copy internally (they just keep a pointer to the location).

You may have to export everything from iphoto first.

nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2013 - 02:57pm PT
I gave that a try but if I export it from iPhoto it makes a copy. I can't switch iPhoto to view the export as one of its libraries.
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Jan 30, 2013 - 04:51pm PT
I tried 'segmenting' my hard drive and created a second smaller one with a Leopard OS, still, no chance with Adobe Suite. F*#k Apple and F*#k Adobe, I paid good money for my Adobe suite, and for my Macs. I am still a Mac person, and I like Adobe, but if they cannot play along and sync with one another, f*#k it, its a money game and they have it and I don't.

But I will never ever go to Windows.

All of these companies get you by the curlies and then screw you. I'd almost want to become a hacker to screw them back. But I don't have the expertise and I do not believe in hacking.

Steve Jobs can rot in hell, and Geschke and Warnock can go to hell, greedy bastards.

I bought Adobe Suite and then Apple upgrades to a new OS and now my Adobe suite is useless unless I pay another 1,000, which I don't have. I am a full-time carer for my partner, and I cannot afford their bullshit games and greed.

Perhaps an analogy. I buy a car with a stereo system. A couple of years later...

... oh forget it, a bad analogy.

Screw these pricks. No wonder there are hackers out there. These companies thrive on greed.
froodish

Social climber
Portland, Oregon
Jan 30, 2013 - 05:58pm PT
Patrick,

What version of the Adobe suite do you have? CS4? CS3?
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Jan 31, 2013 - 04:00am PT
NO Froodish. CS2 but it worked fine with my Leopard, but Adobe tells me that I have to upgrade - at 1,000 - to the latest in order to use it on Lion.

But that does not seem right that I paid good money for CS2 several years ago and now I have to pay out more, in some ways I sort of lay the blame on Apple for not making apps like CS2 compatible, but then I am no expert on operating systems.

If Adobe could offer me a cheaper upgrade (being a full-time carer and with freelance work hard to come by, I live on a paltry 204 a week Carer's Allowance), I'd take back what I've said about them.

Maybe I am just being nave. I know we have to upgrade things from time to time, but CS2 is not THAT old.

I thought if I partitioned my hard drive and created a second smaller drive (Leopard) that I could load Leopard and CS2 and that would solve the problem. I didn't really use the CS2 suite much, but it was handy to have as a journalist/writer.

I have no problems with any of my Microsoft programs on Lion, and I think it should be the same with CS2, but alas, it is not. Apparently PowerPC applications are no longer supported (that's the message I get when trying to open Photoshop or InDesign) in Lion.
Jerry Dodrill

climber
Sebastopol
Jan 31, 2013 - 07:22am PT
Patrick, you either ride the technology wave or get pummeled in the backwash. Don't get farther behind more than 2 generations. The new versions are so much better than the old ones there is no logic in not using them. Especially in software.

To the OP: you are on the right track with Lightroom. Watch Chris Orwig's tutorials on LR4 at Lynda.com. All your questions will be answered.
Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jan 31, 2013 - 08:07am PT

Use Gimp(open source Photoshop clone) and ImageMagick(open source everything for gfx). ImageMagick is especially good at batch processing of images. I like the command line use of ImageMagick "convert" with -sharpen and -contrast-stretch when I have hundreds of images to process. Familiarity with some scripting language helps, I guess.


They are both free and downloadable, although consider donating.

Darwin
jbaker

Trad climber
Redwood City, CA
Jan 31, 2013 - 08:26am PT
Patrick:

Adobe offers some education and non-profit discounts. Worth checking to see if you can qualify somehow. The price will still be pretty darn high.

There are several free, web-based photo editors that aren't bad. More of an iPhoto/Picasa level of capability than Photoshop, but they might be enough. iPiccy.com is my current favorite.

For occasional use, you might be able to get away with using trial versions of CS?, Photoshop Elements, Lightroom.

I'm not sure where in the UK you are, but there might be a Telecentre nearby with the Adobe suite available.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2013 - 12:09pm PT
Thanks for the tip, Jerry.

Everything was going so well. I'm working through
Photoshop Lightroom 4 Essentials: 01 Organizing and Sharing with the Library Module

I got so excited to see the Importing from iPhoto or Aperture.

And then when I tried it it didn't allow me to import.

m'eh!

still... this is good stuff. Guess I'll have to migrate my 11K photos from iPhoto the hard way though.
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Jan 31, 2013 - 02:08pm PT
Jerry, I understand, but it is not like I can either afford it or using it for professional reasons.

Jbaker, Ireland, not the UK, but yes, I have had to deal with Adobe in the UK. Told me I have to upgrade, no other way around it. I am still going to try to figure out a way to use my CS2 Suite on my Leopard drive. Just haven't found a way yet. Time to talk with a Mac technician who has worked on my computers before.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Jan 31, 2013 - 03:44pm PT
Doug;
Just for your info,
You can download a good photo editing program
called Jasc paintshop pro 9.

you can get the program and others for free at
4shared.com

Paintshop pro 9 is pretty cool and I use it a lot in conjunction with Photoshop CS5.
I can still use most of the old photoshop pluginsin Jasc, that the new versions of Photoshop won't accept anymore. A lot of those old filter plugins are pretty powerful, covering most actions you want to perform
on a photo.

nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2013 - 11:18pm PT
Jerry is my hero. I see the light(room).
froodish

Social climber
Portland, Oregon
Feb 2, 2013 - 12:31am PT
Patrick,

Rosetta (needed to run PowerPC apps in Leopard) is an optional install. You should be able to install it through the Leopard install DVD. That should let you run CS2.

I don't really know what you needs are, but you might want to check out Acorn. It's one of the new-ish lighter weight apps and is only $50 and people seem to really like it.

Honestly, I'd dump Photoshop if I could (and I've been using it since version 2) but I have to deal with so many PSDs from designers that I have to keep it reasonably current.

Feel free to ping me if you have any issues with the Rosetta install.

Cheers,

-Steve
The user formerly known as stzzo

climber
Sneaking up behind you
Feb 2, 2013 - 08:00am PT
Nature:

I see the iPhoto files organized by year and roll name:

Credit: The user formerly known as stzzo

You can create a browsable link to your iPhoto storage directory in terminal with:

ln -s ~/Pictures/iPhoto\ Library/Masters ~/Pictures/iPhoto\ Masters

To get there from your Open File dialog, use multi-column mode.

I've modified the original images with PS, stored PSD's, etc in my iPhoto library dirs without any problems so far. Granted, I haven't done it a lot.
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Feb 2, 2013 - 08:47am PT
CS2 is more than "just a couple of years old".

You may look into this alternative.

http://www.adobe.com/products/creativesuite/cssubscription.html
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2013 - 09:29am PT
thanks stzzo... I was going to try the sym link but decided against it. The file structure isn't the way i wanted to import into Lightroom.

Google has a little app called Photoshare the did the trick. It looks like not much more than a shell script with a crappy UI. Looks like it just takes the XML file and parses it and builds the images file structure based on . I wanted things dumped as "photos". so I'm all set now with that.

Where Jerry really helped was pointing me towards Chris Orwig's tutorials on LR4 at Lynda.com. I'll probably pay for the month after the week trial. Trying to figure out the work flow on my own was not going to happen.

In the end I still (apparently) need iPhoto for photostream and for sharing on my other devices. Otherwise I'm totally committed and hooked in LR4.

Now I'm just waiting for my new dSLR to arrive.

The user formerly known as stzzo

climber
Sneaking up behind you
Feb 2, 2013 - 11:56am PT
@Patrick Sawyer:

Reportedly, Rosetta doesn't run on newer Macs.

Check out this link, or point your Mac guy to it: Three ways to keep running your Rosetta apps with Lion installed

Apple supported Rosetta apps for 5 years. In the computer world, that's a long time... Windows' forever-backward-compatible practice is an anomaly that has its downside.

They're now on CS6. That's a 4 major version difference from CS2. It's definitely unfortunate that the upgrade is so expensive, but it is "that old" in the computer world.
weezy

climber
Feb 2, 2013 - 12:12pm PT
neckbeard represent

sudo apt-get install darktable

gonna give it a go. gimp is giving me a headache.
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