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QITNL

climber
Jan 26, 2013 - 04:47pm PT
"Library" isn't a hidden directory, it's just hard to find (one of my major gripes about Apple's consumer apps).

Search (command-F) by Filename, stick in a unique photo name, highlight it, see if you can trace the path that appears below. Then retrace that path.
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Jan 26, 2013 - 05:00pm PT
In iPhoto, look at the name of one of the photos you want to import.

Then in Lightroom, choose "Import photos from disk", put the name of the photo in search, and when it comes up select it:

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Then if you click on the higher level folder above the filename, you can access all the photos in that particular folder. Here I clicked the 2009 folder for example:

Credit: kunlun_shan

send me a PM if this doesn't work. there are a couple other ways to do variations of the same thing.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2013 - 05:31pm PT
The above - Lightroom 4.3?


And "Library" in your home directory is hidden. But... I thought iPhotos were in there which they are not. they are in Pictures/iPhoto Library but access to that folder is limited (and Lightroom won't give me direct access to it and it shouldn't as it's iPhotos "database" and not organized)

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jump_junky

Social climber
Pacifica, CA
Jan 26, 2013 - 05:40pm PT
I've been using Nikon ViewNX2 for several years, and of course, I have a Nikon camera. I prefer that it doesn't use a database to store photo data like Aperture and Lightroom. Browsing photos comes straight off the disc and is faster and less prone to crashing.

ViewNX2 has very good RAW processing. And it's very simple to use.

There's also a free version called ViewNx, which is identical to the other, but with an older-looking interface.

But aside from that, I've used both Aperture and Lightroom, and the Adobe product is much better.

damon
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 26, 2013 - 05:46pm PT
I have no imagination - I use Photoshop...

you could also consider GIMP
http://www.gimp.org/
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Jan 26, 2013 - 05:48pm PT
Nature, what happens if you do a search for an image name in Finder, like this?

Credit: kunlun_shan

and then select a higher level, up from the file name, right clicking "Open Enclosing Folder":

Credit: kunlun_shan

I have Lightroom 2, but newer versions should still work similarly. If you can get to the folder, you can drag the files into a Lightroom catalogue.
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Jan 26, 2013 - 05:53pm PT
Lightroom is great. Photoshop is nice if you want to make crazy graphics or do a ton of processing, but to make good pictures you don't really need photoshop. It's a great program, and I use it, but just excessive for most cases.

Also, GET RID OF IPHOTO!!! It's crappy in many ways. If you use an adobe product using bridge is really nice and clean.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2013 - 05:54pm PT
I don't get a search result if I search for a file that's in iPhoto Library. Are you running OSX 10.8.2. At some point Apple made the iPhoto Library a Package which limits access (including search).
froodish

Social climber
Portland, Oregon
Jan 26, 2013 - 05:56pm PT
To see what's in a package, right-click on it and select "Show package contents".
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Jan 26, 2013 - 05:57pm PT
Nature - another quick workaround is to control-click (or right click) a photo in iPhoto, and choose Show File. It'll open up the folder the file is in, and you can navigate from there:

Credit: kunlun_shan
QITNL

climber
Jan 26, 2013 - 05:59pm PT
OMG, that's the kinda thing that triggers my Tourettes. Another reason I'm not budging past 10.6.

Here is a nice little piece of shareware that might help you locate your stuff:

http://apps.tempel.org/FindAnyFile/

I don't know if it works on those stupid-ass packages. But it's better than the Find File in the OS which looks like it's becoming increasingly useless.
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Jan 26, 2013 - 06:00pm PT
I don't get a search result if I search for a file that's in iPhoto Library.

Are you choosing "file name" when you search? See the red circle on the pic upthread.

And start the search from the hard drive rather than a higher level folder.
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Jan 26, 2013 - 06:04pm PT
iPhoto is the devil.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2013 - 06:07pm PT
Find File works perfectly fine. Apples rational for this is that you don't need direct access to your iPhoto files. There's 15 different ways to get at the photos without digging around in their filesystem database. It makes sense to keep you from f*#king sh#t up.

So no, Find File won't locate files in a Package... it's a package not part of the file system.

So the easy way to get anything from iPhoto to Lightroom is to drag it from iPhoto onto the LR icon on the doc.

What I guess I'm wrestling with is the best way to manage the files in two applications without having duplicates.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2013 - 06:08pm PT
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Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Jan 26, 2013 - 06:12pm PT
Nature, it's nice to have duplicates especially when editing because you can always go back to the original file. Kinda like keeping slides or negatives..

Nice pic
QITNL

climber
Jan 26, 2013 - 06:45pm PT
What I guess I'm wrestling with is the best way to manage the files in two applications without having duplicates.

The "best way" is probably subjective, options include:

 old school, you put your files where you want.
 stay within the Adobe suite, their apps all somewhat sync.
 use iPhoto and Apple's iPhoto file management, which turns all your files into mystery meat.

If by "two applications" you mean iPhoto and Lightbox, bear in mind they are purposely designed not to interact - and it sounds like it's getting worse.

I'm old-school, so I'd extract everything out of iPhoto and put it into a real folder where I could find it. Then I would back that folder up. Everything down the road goes straight into that folder and iPhoto isn't touched.

On a related tip, for fast and dirty photo sharing, I'm really starting to like dropbox.
DM88T

climber
San Juan Bautista, CA
Jan 26, 2013 - 10:22pm PT
Capture One by PHASEONE but they're slow to support new camera's RAW files.
ionlyski

Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
Jan 29, 2013 - 10:37am PT
I 2nd the notion of "Get rid of iPhoto"! Seriously, once you've got all your pics in the Lightroom Catalog, dump your iPhoto library. Make sure to Copy when you import to Lightroom, then get rid of everything iPhoto. Apple has really pissed a lot of people off, myself included with their cute little Faces feature. You cannot shut it off, so on a mass import into the newer versions of iPhoto it will convert say 1000 photos into 8,000. Duplicates up the yingyang too.

Also, in Iphoto 11 you can no longer view individual files outside of the application itself, as in the iPhoto library. You get the one library icon and that's it. If you want to look at an individual file or delete, you have do it within iPhoto. They may have their reasons but it doesn't work well in the real world. Too much automation from Apple. Why do people want their little boxes and screens to do everything for them? Might as well click a button that says "live your life".

Arne
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Jan 29, 2013 - 10:48am PT
Thanks for the warning, ionlyski! Luckily I have a "dumber" version, iPhoto 09.
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