kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Jan 26, 2013 - 01:30pm PT
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nature, I love Lightroom. Its easy importing from where your photos are already for iPhoto. Just leave the photos where they are when you create a catalogue, and don't duplicate or move them.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Jan 26, 2013 - 01:35pm PT
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Cloning! Cool, I do that but I didn't even know it ;) so much to learn.
My favorite new technique is taking bracketed shots and then combining them manually as different layers. Sometimes I cheat too and use the HDR program but I tend to dislike the blurry effect from them noise reduction so I usually combine the original image with the HDR skies.
I don't know Lightroom but it should have a levels option in the adjustment tab maybe? Very useful. Saturation should be in there too and sharpen should be under filters or something?
There is lots of info available online so go read up a bit but mostly just play with it and see what things do to get a better feeling for it.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2013 - 01:37pm PT
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kunlun_shan - the problem I'm running up against is iPhotos are stored in "Library" which is a hidden directory. How are you working around that?
Yeah, all those controls are there. Now to figure out which ones work best to compensate for my lack of talent ;)
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 26, 2013 - 01:37pm PT
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I bet there are you-know-what piles of youtube tutorials.
I'm sure there's also a Lightroom forum. DPReview prolly has book reviews, too.
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QITNL
climber
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Jan 26, 2013 - 01:47pm PT
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"Library" isn't a hidden directory, it's just hard to find (one of my major gripes about Apple's consumer apps).
Search (command-F) by Filename, stick in a unique photo name, highlight it, see if you can trace the path that appears below. Then retrace that path.
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Jan 26, 2013 - 02:00pm PT
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In iPhoto, look at the name of one of the photos you want to import.
Then in Lightroom, choose "Import photos from disk", put the name of the photo in search, and when it comes up select it:
Then if you click on the higher level folder above the filename, you can access all the photos in that particular folder. Here I clicked the 2009 folder for example:
send me a PM if this doesn't work. there are a couple other ways to do variations of the same thing.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2013 - 02:31pm PT
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The above - Lightroom 4.3?
And "Library" in your home directory is hidden. But... I thought iPhotos were in there which they are not. they are in Pictures/iPhoto Library but access to that folder is limited (and Lightroom won't give me direct access to it and it shouldn't as it's iPhotos "database" and not organized)
Hidden
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jump_junky
Social climber
Pacifica, CA
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Jan 26, 2013 - 02:40pm PT
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I've been using Nikon ViewNX2 for several years, and of course, I have a Nikon camera. I prefer that it doesn't use a database to store photo data like Aperture and Lightroom. Browsing photos comes straight off the disc and is faster and less prone to crashing.
ViewNX2 has very good RAW processing. And it's very simple to use.
There's also a free version called ViewNx, which is identical to the other, but with an older-looking interface.
But aside from that, I've used both Aperture and Lightroom, and the Adobe product is much better.
damon
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Jan 26, 2013 - 02:46pm PT
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I have no imagination - I use Photoshop...
you could also consider GIMP
http://www.gimp.org/
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Jan 26, 2013 - 02:48pm PT
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Nature, what happens if you do a search for an image name in Finder, like this?
and then select a higher level, up from the file name, right clicking "Open Enclosing Folder":
I have Lightroom 2, but newer versions should still work similarly. If you can get to the folder, you can drag the files into a Lightroom catalogue.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Jan 26, 2013 - 02:53pm PT
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Lightroom is great. Photoshop is nice if you want to make crazy graphics or do a ton of processing, but to make good pictures you don't really need photoshop. It's a great program, and I use it, but just excessive for most cases.
Also, GET RID OF IPHOTO!!! It's crappy in many ways. If you use an adobe product using bridge is really nice and clean.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2013 - 02:54pm PT
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I don't get a search result if I search for a file that's in iPhoto Library. Are you running OSX 10.8.2. At some point Apple made the iPhoto Library a Package which limits access (including search).
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froodish
Social climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jan 26, 2013 - 02:56pm PT
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To see what's in a package, right-click on it and select "Show package contents".
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Jan 26, 2013 - 02:57pm PT
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Nature - another quick workaround is to control-click (or right click) a photo in iPhoto, and choose Show File. It'll open up the folder the file is in, and you can navigate from there:
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QITNL
climber
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Jan 26, 2013 - 02:59pm PT
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OMG, that's the kinda thing that triggers my Tourettes. Another reason I'm not budging past 10.6.
Here is a nice little piece of shareware that might help you locate your stuff:
http://apps.tempel.org/FindAnyFile/
I don't know if it works on those stupid-ass packages. But it's better than the Find File in the OS which looks like it's becoming increasingly useless.
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Jan 26, 2013 - 03:00pm PT
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I don't get a search result if I search for a file that's in iPhoto Library.
Are you choosing "file name" when you search? See the red circle on the pic upthread.
And start the search from the hard drive rather than a higher level folder.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Jan 26, 2013 - 03:04pm PT
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iPhoto is the devil.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2013 - 03:07pm PT
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Find File works perfectly fine. Apples rational for this is that you don't need direct access to your iPhoto files. There's 15 different ways to get at the photos without digging around in their filesystem database. It makes sense to keep you from f*#king sh#t up.
So no, Find File won't locate files in a Package... it's a package not part of the file system.
So the easy way to get anything from iPhoto to Lightroom is to drag it from iPhoto onto the LR icon on the doc.
What I guess I'm wrestling with is the best way to manage the files in two applications without having duplicates.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2013 - 03:08pm PT
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Jan 26, 2013 - 03:12pm PT
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Nature, it's nice to have duplicates especially when editing because you can always go back to the original file. Kinda like keeping slides or negatives..
Nice pic
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