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Trad climber
Jan 25, 2013 - 06:27pm PT
I am going to go over when they get to the WMart lot.

Maybe we can do a diagnosis over the web at that time.

I didn't ask any questions about the technical aspects, because I felt they were pretty stressed out, and also wouldn't be able to really analyze on my own.

KP - Having spoken to the woman, I don't think they have seen that Supertopo is full of a bunch of saps who fall for cries of help and got an idea. But I guess I would rather be a sap than guilty of posting sarcasm in response to someone in need.

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 25, 2013 - 06:30pm PT
The motor isn't seized, it is low on oil, but the wiring in this van isn't the best but I believe that its not getting fuel cause it turns over and gets spark just no Guy you are too nice once again!

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jan 25, 2013 - 06:33pm PT
These folks are not trolling...

So did you have a "DRY" dipstick?

That is the Key.

I know this cause my 2 kids have blown up 3 of my cars!

Keep notes cause you guys are going to have one hell of a TR about your trip to Josh.

EDIT... OK not seized is great. You need a jump from a good battery. Make sure your cables are not corroded and fit tight.

get it to wall mart.

Jan 25, 2013 - 06:37pm PT
If it's a carbureted and not fuel injected you can drive without a fuel pump by gravity feeding the fuel into the carburetor.

Just disconnect the fuel line and punch a hole in the bottom of a container and stick a small rubber fuel line in it.

Seal it with seal all.

connect the hose to the carb fuel intake and away you gou.

I've done this and is the redneck fix to get going again.

Hooo Rahhh .....

Trad climber
Jan 25, 2013 - 06:42pm PT
Hopefully VB is less terrified of redneck repair than I!

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jan 25, 2013 - 06:45pm PT
This is too good to be true.

Better be a helluva TR after all this!

Take pictures!
KP Ariza

Jan 25, 2013 - 06:58pm PT
Happy, read my original post. Perfectly reasonable advice for someone in there predicament. Quite frankly though, it seems ridiculous to me that somebody who apparently spends a lot of time road tripping wouldn't have thought of that in the first place. Better yet, why not enroll with AAA before hitting the road at all. They could give better advice and service than you will be able to.
These folks are grown adults, they should be able to navigate a bit of car trouble w/out posting a f*#king "Rambler" alert on line.
So yes, the whole thing seemed a little suspicious to me. BTW, since you've resorted to name calling, you're the sap. Go put on your nuns garb and reel 'em in sister.

Trad climber
Jan 25, 2013 - 07:01pm PT
KP - I don't believe I called you a name? I said I - me - would rather be a sap, than guilty of posting sarcasm.

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jan 25, 2013 - 07:07pm PT
Oh yes AAA is the best buy in the world, next to REIs return policy. I get the doubble gold membership..... Towed the Kids blown up car home....from Baker CA.

If I had to pay for that tow it would have cost about a $1,000 ....

Any-way.... a bit of bad luck can be over come with the help of the ST TRIBE.

And Werner..... To make the fuel pump you describe work even better. Use the fuel container from a coleman white gas stove. The pump gives you fuel pressure.... that way your passenger can keep it pumped up while you drive.

Trad climber
Jan 25, 2013 - 07:12pm PT
In my old Land Rover field repair manual it suggests using the windshield wiper fluid pump as a make shift fuel pump. Several years ago my fuel pump took a dive in the Saline Valley and I was able to get into Bishop using this trick. Just hit the wiper fluid switch every 30 seconds or so and it worked like a charm.

Jan 25, 2013 - 07:16pm PT
Called them up. They have successfully gotten to Walmart. Now it is just a matter of doing the diagnostics.

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jan 25, 2013 - 07:23pm PT
Go get a can of "starter spray" ..... crank engine - spray a bit and see if it fires up on the spray. If it does, fuel pump is most likley the root cause.

I think you have a mechanical fuel pump in that van. Pretty cheap and easy to fix.

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 25, 2013 - 07:29pm PT
yeah so we got a tow to the yucca valley WalMart,thanks for the calls and replies our van isn't the greatest it cost $600 and for all the possibilities that could go wrong it making it 1400 miles and this being the first break down, I am happy. There will be a big TR but really this is not a trip, this is a life change after to many years or working and doing everything your supposed to( school, work, etc) I was tired of being perpetually unhappy and made a short notice decision to move into a van and do what I want to be happy, climb! While a bit short sighted and whimsical it made a lot of sense to me. I've had severe depression and borderline personality disorder since I was 12( 12 years) that a long with an alternative view of society and ours particularly here in the US led me to be certain I would be happier homeless and living more simply. Having the wonderful partner I do she agreed to brave the huge step outside her comfort zone & come along, that being the gas I had to spend a substantially larger amount of my budget on creature comforts ie; more insulating, a bed in the van, solar power for her laptop & camera charger etc. Leaving us with a lot less for mishaps and problems, after being shorted $500 on my last check that has pretty much left us broke but not without avenues for future food&gas. Those that have helped thus far have done substantial justice to reaffirming my faith in human decency, anyone with negative comments can kiss my ass. In summation we are just trying to be happy, and I am just doing my best with what i have.

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Jan 25, 2013 - 07:39pm PT
After reading all of your 36 posts,
I've concluded that this qualifies as a,
"Roadtrip to Hell" Roadtrip!


Jan 25, 2013 - 07:48pm PT
Guy said:
"my 2 kids have blown up 3 of my cars!"
You didn't explain about putting oil in the car after the first one? LOL.

ps, I've found that by having kids at least you know where your tools are when you go get them....someplace else, to be determined.

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 25, 2013 - 08:21pm PT
Haha well then you'll love my 37th post... Cause I didn't include that one of the gentleman that helped us while in Calabasas gave us some alcohol( yay free alcohol) which included a 1981 bottle of crown that contributed to me tripping and breaking my nose on our rear window! Ill include a picture of all the blood once we have laptop battery.
Also bought starting fluid fired up so it is either dead fuel pump or the wiring!
Todd Gordon

Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
Jan 25, 2013 - 08:23pm PT
I'm in joshua tree and I will be around most all me up and tell me what you need;...I'll help you out any way I can....(760) 366-9395......I live here in town....but was at work all day or I would have responded earlier.......
Big Mike

Trad climber
Jan 25, 2013 - 09:59pm PT
Dude rough! If it fired up than it ain't the wiring because if it was you wouldn't get spark. Sounds like you found your fuel issue. Probably the pump. maybe a clog?

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Jan 25, 2013 - 10:06pm PT
Hey VB;

After all the misadventures you've had on this, ROADTRIP,
you might seriously think about cancelling it.

Because if you keep on with this, ROADTRIP,...


Trad climber
Jan 25, 2013 - 10:34pm PT
Well, I did find them out at the Walmart, and yeah, the starter fluid fired it up. The guy (I forget his name already!) thinks wiring but....

I told them about my fuel pump story and how the pirate mechanic diagnosed it after spraying starter fluid(fired right up). He yarded on the gas tank with a 2 x 4, and then said "Crank on it" and it started again...He said "It's your fuel pump." hahah

But he didn't seem ready to run that diagnostic. Anyway - they are safe at WM, we had a beer(well, I had no alcohol, but thought they could use one) and some food, and tomorrow he is going to see what he can see, about why it won't go. Sounds like he is mechanically inclined, which puts him many steps ahead of me. But his van seems to be acting just as mine did when the fuel pump went.

Oh! One thing they mentioned. They heard the humming sound of fuel pump the other night - but when the van was OFF, no key in ignition and had been sitting. I guess that is why he thinks wiring, but could the fuel pump have "kept going" or something after it was supposed to shut down (hence the hum), and worn out?
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