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TwistedCrank
climber
Dingleberry Gulch, Ideeho
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Jan 23, 2013 - 12:11pm PT
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It's all serious until someone puts an eye out.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jan 23, 2013 - 12:16pm PT
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Kevin, point well taken but for me there are other issues. I know this is a forum for climbers rather than a climbing forum but the OT content and the ensuing drama has gone, at least for me, over the top.
Maybe it's the angst that becomes more prevalent in the depths of winter, maybe it's just what the forum has become. The fact remains that 80% of the threads currently on ST can be found anywhere on the internet. Those threads, based on the posts they elicit, dominate the content of ST.
As i aproach my 70th birthday, the sands running ever faster thru the hourglass, i have decided to dedicate this year to some climbing goals. A climbing forum can serve like a support group and this does if you are willing to dig. Unfortunately, i find myself getting sucked into the muck and morass of the bulk of discussion here.
I need to take a sabbatical while i get on with my goals. I'll peek in to see if i can find a nugget or two.
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Fish Finder
Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
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Jan 23, 2013 - 12:23pm PT
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I really feel for Chris Mac.
I bet he never has kids after having to deal with all the babies here.
Can you imagine how many emails he must have to decipher?
So and So called me names, so and so is a jerk, so and so posted mean images.
For F*#k Sake
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Bullwinkle
Boulder climber
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Jan 23, 2013 - 12:24pm PT
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Hey Jim, hope you're doing well.
The Climbing World that I live in does not seem to have a problem with nudity. But I guess that's because the Climbers that appear in StoneNudes are mostly in their 20's a much different generation than posts here. . .Think about it. . .df
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Jan 23, 2013 - 12:29pm PT
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Haha Dean true, but I think it also has to do with a positive mind set and healthy self-esteem for your friends.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Jan 23, 2013 - 12:34pm PT
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Who gives a fuk what you think? If this is a serious matter you need to get out more.
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Jan 23, 2013 - 12:50pm PT
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I don't for a second believe that any well formed male actually has an issue with the female form in any way shape or form, nude of otherwise. I do believe that people enjoy masquerading as puritanical guardians of The Faith. But I wish they would really go into their own thoughts and beliefs instead of bashing ours. There is plenty of room for all opinions here, and the most august, righteous and bombastic are often the most entertaining. And this is all entertainment, of that we may be sure. There's nothing remotely "serious" about a thread on knockers, no matter how you spin it.
JL
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Jan 23, 2013 - 01:12pm PT
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maybe you never had the pleasure of mixed company in climbing, warbler, but it pre-dates even your term in california. if i have to drop some names, try mr. and mrs. john mendenhall and mr. and mrs. chuck wilts. oh, yea, more boys than girls in this sport, but one of the things that attracted me was the happy mixed company of it. that all follows good manners out the window.
don't kid yourself that this is a guy thing. we already have a "tittay" thread that gets revived occasionally and then properly dies for lack of interest. this thread was started by a young woman with an agenda, and that has made all the difference.
maybe you missed the genesis of it, JL, being in the hospital. it did all begin with something quite serious, nothing remote about that, the sandy hook shootings. or, should i say, alleged shootings, according to the suggestion of tom cochrane, who brought up the little matter of mind control, patsies, and staged government terrorism, matters i know you'd probably rather not get into. it got to be quite a free-for-all for a few days over christmastime, and then anastasia decided to play the tits card to draw everyone away from the conspiracy theorizing and tom cochrane bashing. worked a charm. for the record, i'm not the least prudish about any of it, although i think it got pretty extreme for a climber's forum. i just ignored it and delivered an occasional snide remark on other threads. but i can't ignore losing lolli.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Jan 23, 2013 - 01:20pm PT
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jan 23, 2013 - 01:25pm PT
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Jan 23, 2013 - 01:25pm PT
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The White Knight is here, sacrificing manhood for acceptance from women his mother never gave him!
these are jokes...
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Jan 23, 2013 - 01:26pm PT
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you sure like to put words in other people's mouths, jim brennan, and predeliver your arguments to them.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Jan 23, 2013 - 01:27pm PT
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anastasia should have nuked that thread. it's a measure of her immaturity, and perhaps her ego, that she couldn't recognize the monster she had created. Dude, I think your cheese has slid off yer cracker
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Jan 23, 2013 - 01:34pm PT
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Could someone please post a pic of this boob monster you speak of?
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Jan 23, 2013 - 01:40pm PT
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Time for a thread hijacking.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Jan 23, 2013 - 01:41pm PT
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patrick compton
Trad climber
van
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Jan 23, 2013 - 01:45pm PT
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I enjoy the irony that as the tits got smaller, the more upset peoples got.
I thought the Boob thread was quite cutting-edge and thought provoking.
Grok on this for a minute:
If underage tities are so horribly wrong (and I'm not sure what as posted was underage), then does that make topless beaches in Europe where parents walk around with their kids the devil's playground?
No, at the end of the day, it is the human body, male or female.
If we as westerners saw more nudity, we would be desensitized to it and it wouldn't be the issue it is.
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patrick compton
Trad climber
van
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Jan 23, 2013 - 01:47pm PT
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...oh, if you don't like the female upper body, why open the thread?
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Jan 23, 2013 - 01:48pm PT
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seriously
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Jan 23, 2013 - 01:58pm PT
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this thread was started by a young woman with an agenda
Tony,
I think CMac acted properly in removing the thread, given his potential liability. I've seen many people sentenced to be remanded to the custody of the Federal Bureau of Prisons for child pornography, and those were almost always my most depressing days in court. Also, Super Topo is in the business of selling climbing guides, and can legitimately regulate content that might drive potential customers away because of unnecessary offense.
Nonetheless, I feel a need to stand up for my friend Anastasia. While I'm sure she's amused to be called a young woman, her only "agenda" was, I'm quite sure, having some fun (and poking some fun rather gently)at the expense of her male friends.
Anastasia is a climber, wife, mother, and also the holder and expounder of political beliefs that are often the exact opposite of mine. I find her contributions here valuable. I would also note that she, too, took a rather extended sabbatical from ST and I, for one, am glad she chose to return.
While I'm sorry that Lolli has decided to leave (temporarily, I hope), I just can't see the happenings on any climbers' forum as serious. Also, I don't think we'd have a worthwhile forum if we all had to tiptoe on eggshells for fear of offending someone. Again, this is a private forum, and CMac has the right to regulate it in any way he sees fit. I, for one, greatly appreciate how he's given us as wide a latitude as possible to express ourselves.
John
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