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adventurous one

Trad climber
Truckee Ca.
Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 22, 2013 - 08:14pm PT
http://news.yahoo.com/americas-national-parks-weigh-solitude-against-cellular-access-180108301.html

....I thought people went to National Parks to experience nature and to excape, briefly, the trappings of the cities and the constant intrusions of electronic urban life? The thought of trying to experience a hike in nature as throngs of people are conducting their business/social media, via cell, along the trail sorta defeats the purpose imo. To bad that $$$ will probalby win out unless those that care speak out......Maybe skip a few moments of ST surfing to let those in charge of your favorite National Park know how you feel about this.
this just in

climber
north fork
Jan 22, 2013 - 08:18pm PT
There's far too many people in the national parks to be a nature experience. Surely this isn't the case for all parks, but all the ones I've been too.
WBraun

climber
Jan 22, 2013 - 08:19pm PT
Another clueless self righteous utopian fool who thinks a park is an independent island for him only .......
adventurous one

Trad climber
Truckee Ca.
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 22, 2013 - 08:56pm PT
^^^ Must be Werner sarcasim. It would be nice to still have a place in this country to take my teenage kids on vacation where I could get them to stop looking at their phones for more than 5 minutes on a hike and enjoy nature. Never have a problem with having others around, but no sense tempting people to be inconsiderate. Don't have to take that business call in the Hetch Hetchy backcountry if there is no cell reception....ahh...........

And, I was thinking more for the benifit of those trying to escape the cities for a bit of peace and quite. I've had plenty of places to do that as I've spent my life living in the mountains and exploring nature. Just hoping that we leave some of that for our future generations. For myself, going to the city is my vacation/escape from the peace and quite of the mountains.....
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Jan 22, 2013 - 08:58pm PT
Hike a quarter mile past the trailhead and you'll lose a quarter of the people, hike another quarter mile and you'll lose another quarter, and on and on and on. Eventually you will be out in the real wilderness and won't have to worry about it.
adventurous one

Trad climber
Truckee Ca.
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 22, 2013 - 09:12pm PT
^^^^Unless you are hiking with your teenage kids who never set their phone down as long as they have a signal, lol
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jan 22, 2013 - 09:14pm PT
NO!!!
Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Jan 22, 2013 - 09:22pm PT
How about having them only around the visitor center and commercial areas of the park with very limited range so that people who wanted to use them could, but only in the congested areas? That would free up a lot of trails for the rest of us.
bit'er ol' guy

climber
the past
Jan 22, 2013 - 09:24pm PT
You can't publish a guide book

and

complain about crowds in the mountains.
John M

climber
Jan 22, 2013 - 09:28pm PT
I live in Yosemite. Once you hike more then half a mile, then cell phones become a non issue. Its e easy to get away from them, though the campgrounds can be a different issue. Then you can have generators, tvs, radios, heaters, air conditioners... Cell phones fall pretty far down as an issue.
snowhazed

Trad climber
Oaksterdam, CA
Jan 22, 2013 - 09:31pm PT
Just take away your kids phones when you want them offline regardless of where service extends. You payed for those phones, fed those kids all their lives and sprung them from your loins. You own them.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jan 22, 2013 - 09:58pm PT
Really don't understand why this would bother anyone. Don't want to use a cellphone... don't.

You are not seriously trying to make the argument that other folks cell phones bother you are you?

If so you making the much more serious mistake of not getting away from people.

Which is easy.

I see no point in not having choices.

Plus folks like Werner and others actually live in the parks or work there.

WBraun

climber
Jan 22, 2013 - 10:13pm PT
Take their phones away if you don't want your teenage kids looking at them in the park.

What kind of dad are you anyways?

Cripes!!! people these days.

Are so ...... you fill in the blanks
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jan 22, 2013 - 10:15pm PT
^ +1

Perhaps he wants the federal government to do his parenting.
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Jan 22, 2013 - 10:25pm PT
Is it illegal to haul a generator up El Cap? My IPhone can't keep a charge.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jan 22, 2013 - 10:27pm PT
It's fine if it's pedal operated. Just no motors k
snowhazed

Trad climber
Oaksterdam, CA
Jan 22, 2013 - 11:59pm PT
Werner gets an amen even though I said the same thing up thread? What is he like a famous dude or something?
mike m

Trad climber
black hills
Jan 23, 2013 - 08:17pm PT
Are there laws against texting and belaying?

A huge tower on top of the tower(Devils) seems about right.

Maybe we should be able to vote for one in every park or every peak in every park. I can see the headlines Lincoln's home crushed by masive weight of cell phone tower.
Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Jan 23, 2013 - 08:54pm PT
"People brake in the middle of the road to watch animals. The added distraction of a wireless signal - allowing a driver to text Aunt Madge to say how great the trip is - could have disastrous consequences," he said.
kev

climber
A pile of dirt.
Jan 23, 2013 - 09:14pm PT
Although I suspect it's illegal to transmit over the required frequency range, making a small close range cell jammer wouldn't be hard.
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