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graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Jan 23, 2013 - 04:42pm PT
Those girls are without a doubt prepubescent.

Luckpink, do you even know what "prepubescent" means? Obviously NOT!
Largo

Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
Jan 23, 2013 - 04:48pm PT
"Alhough some can argue with merit that the entire thread was creepy and inappropraite. . . "

I'd like to hear the arguments condemning such a thread (which does NOT feature youngish looking women), and probe the psychological drivers behind the condemnation. Can we say, "issues . . ."

This site and the climbing world have always been large enough for both the John Calvin's and the John Holmes' to sound off. That one would acquire the power to at once police what we see and determine what content is appropriate is, IMO, a gigantic dereliction of the tolerance and freedom most of us so prize and cherish about the adventure world. Defenders of the faith are telling others what to do, and save for felonious or hateful acts, I have no patients for self-appointed censors.

EVERYONE has the freedom to say what they believe. Notwithstanding debauched forays into kiddy porn, gay bashing, and such crapola, NOBODY should ever have the power to determine the agenda or to make this site or the adventure community over in their own image or to their own liking. That's moral fascism masquerading as the One True Path, where subjective fears, credos and beliefs are fobbed off as objective truths or, worst still, as "God's will." The fact that this is a largely unconscious process makes it especially dangerous.

Do you have any idea what happens when you bury the dark side in the name of "good?" No - you don't need to elevate the shadow or worship rats and Devils. It's not all or nothing, a universal fact apparently lost on many.

JL
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Jan 23, 2013 - 04:49pm PT
Welcome back Largo
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Jan 23, 2013 - 04:54pm PT
+1,000 Largo.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Jan 23, 2013 - 05:11pm PT
Not much preaching on the music thread, none needed:

music is the most Dionysian of the arts, since it appeals directly to man's instinctive, chaotic emotions and not to his formally reasoning mind.

Who's Who in the field of Climbing?


Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jan 23, 2013 - 05:22pm PT
An excellent point zBrown. Really got me to thinking there - we can be so... religious, about politics, about sex, about football, about patriotic bullsh#t, and yet... music seems to fill the spheres.

Very interesting point to ponder...

I know t*r is/was proud of that thread and when the political thread eclipsed it in post count I was sad.

Thanks
DMT
I'm Rick James, Bitch

Social climber
Up in it and down on it
Jan 23, 2013 - 05:50pm PT
Riley says:
But the funniest thing of all is considering all the absolutely ridiculous drama TR has posted and been involved with over the years this has got to be the most ridiculous and hypocritical

Cause TR has posted her own boob pics!!! She would get drunk and send me pics of her boobs. And because I was involved in some drama with her, only on the phone thank goodness, I was in contact with many other people who also had had boob shots sent to them or been involved in more intimate and incredibly f*#ked up and dramatic ways - ask them? maybe they will post up!

BULLSH#T without pics! Post 'em up! Dingus is probably in the chain too. Along with Kovar? Show some proof.
CIRJB!!!!!^69 (*)(*)
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Jan 23, 2013 - 09:10pm PT
almost like knight and day






Fluoride

Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
Jan 23, 2013 - 10:36pm PT
Largo, I don't think it was as much about what she said as what she did. At least from what I've gleaned from the events that lead up to her ban. She did stuff to the thread that slowed down the entire website to a degree that it was damaging to ST as a whole. It resulted in the deletion of the thread and TR getting de-activated by admins as a result of her actions.

She's also Standing Strong, Tuolumne Rainbow, she has lots of handles here so I'm sure she'll be back.
mcreel

climber
Barcelona
Jan 24, 2013 - 12:10am PT
"I'd like to hear the arguments condemning such a thread (which does NOT feature youngish looking women), and probe the psychological drivers behind the condemnation."

OK, here's a couple of arguments. I don't condemn the thread, but I don't think it needs to be here, either.

1. Whoever needs to see some boobs can easily scratch that itch without coming to Supertopo. What's the need for posting it here? Same goes for guns, political arguments, etc. There are few places to get quality discussion of climbing-related topics. When one group does a fit of wildly off topic posting, the others seem to think they have a license to do the same, and you end up with a million off topic posts, so that interesting climbing threads quickly get buried.

2. This kind of thread bothers some people who have climbing related contributions to make, and they sometimes leave due to all the heat and noise generated by the threads and their possible removal.

Well, I don't know if there's much to probe here, but perhaps I'm hiding things from myself.

OK, that's my last non-climbing related post ever. Reading and thinking about this stuff is a waste of my precious time. Why did I just spend 5 minutes on this stuff???
Michelle

Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Jan 24, 2013 - 01:56am PT
So Hank what you're saying is if you were a Terminator you'd go back in time and f*#k yourself to death???

Omfg I snarfed my soda.


It's not yet February and the major controversy is boobs. This one rates 5 stars!
QITNL

climber
Jan 24, 2013 - 02:44am PT


I bought this for my girlfriend from World Market. Stone Praying Lady. $20.

I put a little crystal on her and she liked it.
slayton

Trad climber
Here and There
Jan 24, 2013 - 02:50am PT
Like sands through the hourglass, these are the days of your (Supertopo) lives.

QITNL

climber
Jan 24, 2013 - 02:57am PT
Quiet is the new loud.
Norwegian

Trad climber
Pollock Pines, California
Jan 24, 2013 - 05:41am PT
..after is the new before
as my futures and pabst
become so horribly entagled that i'm
completely befuddled by the now....

or something to to that effect.


sweet statue QTNL,
i found this driftwood buddha with
a stone fixed in her roots,
gave it to my gal, and she liked it, too.
Credit: Norwegian


happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Jan 24, 2013 - 08:23am PT
She did stuff to the thread that slowed down the entire website to a degree that it was damaging to ST as a whole.

I find that interesting, as others have said it too. Did anyone actually experience a slowdown(other than annoyed people who had to remove their hands from their lap to use the scroll key to get to more tittie pics)?

My computer is running XP 2002, and is stuffed to the gills with photos. I often run out of space to perform actions when using Illustrator or Photoshop because my computer is so full and old. I cannot view YouTube at auto level, and even the lowest quality buffers quite a bit within many videos.

I was online during the nuke pictures and resultant blowback.I was also using my Verizon mobile broadband which is notorious for whimpering whenever there is so much as a cloud to block the signal(as is happening now), and saw ZERO loss in performance.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 24, 2013 - 09:10am PT
Happiegrrrl the "loss of Performance" was just from the 50+ year old skeezer geezers who had to take there hands from their laps to scroll. LOL
John M

climber
Jan 24, 2013 - 09:22am PT

I find that interesting, as others have said it too. Did anyone actually experience a slowdown(other than annoyed people who had to remove their hands from their lap to use the scroll key to get to more tittie pics)?

No.. its a misunderstanding of what a photo bomb does. In the olden days we had some pics that would overload a computer. They still exist, Russ has one, but computers are faster and handle them better. The modern way to bomb a thread is to post a whole lot of pictures in a row so that it takes forever to scroll through.. even if you use the page button. Its more frustrating then anything else and keeps people from using a thread. It becomes a control issue more then anything else.
froodish

Social climber
Portland, Oregon
Jan 24, 2013 - 09:22am PT
She did stuff to the thread that slowed down the entire website to a degree that it was damaging to ST as a whole.

Yeah, that's unlikely. There are two ways to include images in a post on ST:

1) Link to an image hosted elsewhere using the [img ... forum code

2) Use the image uploader to store the image at ST. The ST server then re-compresses the image into a few different (usually smaller) sizes

I didn't see the images in question, but in general, if you want to photo-bomb a thread you use technique #1 as using #2 will result in displaying smaller images which kinda defeats the purpose of the photo-bomb.

If the images are hosted elsewhere (technique #1) inserting images will have zero effect on the ST server and if #2 were used, the smaller file size would have a negligible impact. Using #1 can however have a significant effect on the client (your web browser), slowing down rendering and locking the browser up.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 24, 2013 - 09:23am PT


BINGO!!!...

"It becomes a control issue more then anything else."...

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