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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Jan 23, 2013 - 08:11pm PT
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Not much preaching on the music thread, none needed:
music is the most Dionysian of the arts, since it appeals directly to man's instinctive, chaotic emotions and not to his formally reasoning mind.
Who's Who in the field of Climbing?
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Fluoride
Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
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Jan 24, 2013 - 01:36am PT
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Largo, I don't think it was as much about what she said as what she did. At least from what I've gleaned from the events that lead up to her ban. She did stuff to the thread that slowed down the entire website to a degree that it was damaging to ST as a whole. It resulted in the deletion of the thread and TR getting de-activated by admins as a result of her actions.
She's also Standing Strong, Tuolumne Rainbow, she has lots of handles here so I'm sure she'll be back.
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mcreel
climber
Barcelona
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Jan 24, 2013 - 03:10am PT
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"I'd like to hear the arguments condemning such a thread (which does NOT feature youngish looking women), and probe the psychological drivers behind the condemnation."
OK, here's a couple of arguments. I don't condemn the thread, but I don't think it needs to be here, either.
1. Whoever needs to see some boobs can easily scratch that itch without coming to Supertopo. What's the need for posting it here? Same goes for guns, political arguments, etc. There are few places to get quality discussion of climbing-related topics. When one group does a fit of wildly off topic posting, the others seem to think they have a license to do the same, and you end up with a million off topic posts, so that interesting climbing threads quickly get buried.
2. This kind of thread bothers some people who have climbing related contributions to make, and they sometimes leave due to all the heat and noise generated by the threads and their possible removal.
Well, I don't know if there's much to probe here, but perhaps I'm hiding things from myself.
OK, that's my last non-climbing related post ever. Reading and thinking about this stuff is a waste of my precious time. Why did I just spend 5 minutes on this stuff???
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Michelle
Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
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Jan 24, 2013 - 04:56am PT
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So Hank what you're saying is if you were a Terminator you'd go back in time and f*#k yourself to death???
Omfg I snarfed my soda.
It's not yet February and the major controversy is boobs. This one rates 5 stars!
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slayton
Trad climber
Here and There
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Jan 24, 2013 - 05:50am PT
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Like sands through the hourglass, these are the days of your (Supertopo) lives.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Pollock Pines, California
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Jan 24, 2013 - 08:41am PT
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..after is the new before
as my futures and pabst
become so horribly entagled that i'm
completely befuddled by the now....
or something to to that effect.
sweet statue QTNL,
i found this driftwood buddha with
a stone fixed in her roots,
gave it to my gal, and she liked it, too.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Jan 24, 2013 - 11:23am PT
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She did stuff to the thread that slowed down the entire website to a degree that it was damaging to ST as a whole.
I find that interesting, as others have said it too. Did anyone actually experience a slowdown(other than annoyed people who had to remove their hands from their lap to use the scroll key to get to more tittie pics)?
My computer is running XP 2002, and is stuffed to the gills with photos. I often run out of space to perform actions when using Illustrator or Photoshop because my computer is so full and old. I cannot view YouTube at auto level, and even the lowest quality buffers quite a bit within many videos.
I was online during the nuke pictures and resultant blowback.I was also using my Verizon mobile broadband which is notorious for whimpering whenever there is so much as a cloud to block the signal(as is happening now), and saw ZERO loss in performance.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Jan 24, 2013 - 12:10pm PT
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Happiegrrrl the "loss of Performance" was just from the 50+ year old skeezer geezers who had to take there hands from their laps to scroll. LOL
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John M
climber
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Jan 24, 2013 - 12:22pm PT
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I find that interesting, as others have said it too. Did anyone actually experience a slowdown(other than annoyed people who had to remove their hands from their lap to use the scroll key to get to more tittie pics)?
No.. its a misunderstanding of what a photo bomb does. In the olden days we had some pics that would overload a computer. They still exist, Russ has one, but computers are faster and handle them better. The modern way to bomb a thread is to post a whole lot of pictures in a row so that it takes forever to scroll through.. even if you use the page button. Its more frustrating then anything else and keeps people from using a thread. It becomes a control issue more then anything else.
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froodish
Social climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jan 24, 2013 - 12:22pm PT
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She did stuff to the thread that slowed down the entire website to a degree that it was damaging to ST as a whole.
Yeah, that's unlikely. There are two ways to include images in a post on ST:
1) Link to an image hosted elsewhere using the [img ... forum code
2) Use the image uploader to store the image at ST. The ST server then re-compresses the image into a few different (usually smaller) sizes
I didn't see the images in question, but in general, if you want to photo-bomb a thread you use technique #1 as using #2 will result in displaying smaller images which kinda defeats the purpose of the photo-bomb.
If the images are hosted elsewhere (technique #1) inserting images will have zero effect on the ST server and if #2 were used, the smaller file size would have a negligible impact. Using #1 can however have a significant effect on the client (your web browser), slowing down rendering and locking the browser up.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jan 24, 2013 - 01:12pm PT
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Isn't it always?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 24, 2013 - 01:19pm PT
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Have seriously lost interest in any and all of this. It's done, she's been given the ax, move along.
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Jan 24, 2013 - 02:22pm PT
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OK, that's my last non-climbing related post ever. Reading and thinking about this stuff is a waste of my precious time. Why did I just spend 5 minutes on this stuff???
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It's called a break, a breather, a moment to decompress from all the important and serious and grave things you have to accomplish in the next day or hour.
This site is a balm to many who find a quick escape from their normal life and can let it fly for a few minutes. Insisting that ST be the perfect equal of the real and important living we do in our normal lives is to rob some of us of the very reason we come here in the first instance - not to grind on serious maters, but to let all that go for a breath or two. And the idea that the value of this site is relative to how strictly we're roped to climbing themes and issues - this is a bad plan IMO. The heading of most posts lets us know the content. Click on climbing threads if that's what you want. There's always a bunch of them on page 1. Why concern yourself with what you don't like? And trying to police this crowd is like herding cats. You'll never pull it off.
JL
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ground_up
Trad climber
mt. hood /baja
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Jan 24, 2013 - 02:27pm PT
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^^^^^ exactly ! well put as per usual Largo
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Jan 24, 2013 - 02:33pm PT
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If there's one thing I learned from Boobgate, no wait a minute I didn't learn anything from Boobgate.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Jan 24, 2013 - 02:38pm PT
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Boobgate. Don't post picks of flat chested chicks and if you do post boob picks cover the nips.
Pretty simple.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Jan 24, 2013 - 02:49pm PT
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I find that interesting, as others have said it too. Did anyone actually experience a slowdown(other than annoyed people who had to remove their hands from their lap to use the scroll key to get to more tittie pics)?
My computer is running XP 2002, and is stuffed to the gills with photos. I often run out of space to perform actions when using Illustrator or Photoshop because my computer is so full and old. I cannot view YouTube at auto level, and even the lowest quality buffers quite a bit within many videos.
I was online during the nuke pictures and resultant blowback.I was also using my Verizon mobile broadband which is notorious for whimpering whenever there is so much as a cloud to block the signal(as is happening now), and saw ZERO loss in performance.
The fact that her attempt to sabotage this site may not have been particularly successful is a pretty lame defense, if that's what you're getting at. She may have gone on to attempt something else (and her immediate signing up with a new avatar suggests she may not be the type to just let something go and move on--hopefully the site admins have their eyes on her IP and are on the lookout for anything suspicious. I suspect we may not have heard the last from her).
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Jan 24, 2013 - 03:06pm PT
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Summary: OMG, like there was this thread on this internet site that said "boobs" and I clicked it and like there were like tons of naked boobs. I couldn't believe it! I was like "ew, that's gross!" So I was all like, "I'm totally going to nuke that" because I can't stand when others find enjoyment from harmless pictures of naked breasts. After my childish bullshit affected site performance I was banned. I was all like "you can't do that to ME." So I was like "I know, I'll just get another account and rub it in their faces." And then I was like banned again. It's like totally not fair.
Women's bodies should not be looked at.
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Snowmassguy
Trad climber
Calirado
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Jan 24, 2013 - 03:10pm PT
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Like OMG...you are totally....like...right.^^^^ EWWWW
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