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Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Feb 1, 2013 - 10:46am PT
I realize that on this forum, it's OK to bag on Bush or republicans, you'll get a free pass, but not on any democrats or the President. But try and open your mind. If anothers ignorance and stupidity bother you, DON'T CLICK THE LINK.

I haven't bagged on Bush, and I probably said why, we the people elect the president, who ever that is we have an obligation to work with the administration for the best of the country. While I do not agree on every policy issue of every administration, in my current job I still need to provide the best input to the government, who ever that might be...

...in fact, it's not a "who" but it is an "us," once again we elected that government.

You accuse me of having a closed mind, but that is not at all how I see it... I would believe that Donald could have made his points in a respectful, intellectual manner, but did not choose to take the "high road." I have no problem with his espousing his point of view, I do have a problem when it is done with disrespect.

The OP of this thread, and the many prods by Donald in it, is disrespectful to a very high degree and it does so as an intentional provocation. That is not necessary, in my opinion, and I said so. I have debated Donald on other threads, I do not agree with him but I respect that he has an opinion and I sought to learn the basis of that opinion.

And it is not just a matter of "not clicking." Your favorite Trad climbing area can still be climbed in that manner even if it is grid-rap-bolted... just don't clip the bolts, right?! Though you might not seek that spot out after it has been so treated.

When their is intentional baiting using offensive and disrespectful posts, this thread being an example, we can certainly challenge it, and do so respectfully.

Perhaps I have been remiss in not doing so in other threads... but so be it.

But close minded? I don't think so... can you provide an explanation of that statement?
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 1, 2013 - 10:49am PT
That does it, I'm going to start hunting and eating squirrels. Any advice, suggestions? I know there have been some cases of the plaque up here, but I'm thinking some rubber gloves curing skinning/cleaning should do the trick.

Best vid I've found on the subject
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Feb 1, 2013 - 10:57am PT
I haven't followed all of your online debates with the guy Ed, was only referring to this thread and I didn't see DT being a douchbag. If you say he is elsewhere, I would not doubt your words.

As far as being disrespectful of the President, THIS THREAD, is much less aggro than 90 percent of the things which had been said about Bush. I will admit that the last administration did substantially more stupid sh#t, and so they should have been dissed on substantially more...but sometimes it got embarrassing how over the top and damned nasty it got, so I can relate to your feelings and statements. I was not singling you out as a person who had "bashed" Bush excessively, I'm sure we both said some pretty pointed and possibly nasty, but true, things. So sorry to infer that your Bush words were over the top as I was referring to people who post here generally.

As far as walking away, I'm standing by that. See, now you and I have both bumped this thread to the top again:-). Lets walk any and let it slip off the front page. OK?

Regards to you Ed.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 1, 2013 - 10:58am PT
the plague will be found mostly in ground squirrels and not the tree dwellers. Chickarees and greys your best bet. Problems locally can be FLEAS..But this winter has been cold enough to knock down the external parasites. Rabbit and squirrel are best delt with when its COLD..


and the vid IS the way to clean a skeewarel..
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Feb 1, 2013 - 11:20am PT
and the vid IS the way to clean a skeewarel..

Ron, I just realized that you are the guy to go to with this question. Should have thought of you before, because it's been bugging me for a while. Here's the deal: Wes asking about the best way to skin a squirrel reminded me that I've read (in a serious book) that the best/easiest way to skin a rabbit is to get the pump you use to blow up basketballs (bike pump with the needle attached), insert the needle down around the ankle, and pump. Skin supposedly blows up like a balloon and can then be removed easily.

So, first, is that true?

And second, if it is true, does it work on squirrels?

And FWIW, I skinned a few squirrels back when I was a teenager working in the bush, but I didn't really have any clue about how it ought to be done. A sharp knife and some pulling and tugging.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Feb 1, 2013 - 11:23am PT
Strange....I don't miss Donald yet.......
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 1, 2013 - 11:26am PT
Ghost, ys that is true about rabbits, but squirrels skin is tighter to the viscera layers than a rabbit so it doesnt work as well. But the standard skinning procedure in the video is the same for rabbit. A word of caution,, do not cut through the urethra tube or testicle area as it will flood foul taste into the hind quarters- that the same on all mammals..The cleaner the cleaning, the better the meat. (aint it always so)


edit: ive used my air compressor in such skinning before - takes about four seconds at 90 psi...
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Feb 1, 2013 - 05:53pm PT
So is DT banned? Or am I reading something wrong?

And I thought I read on another thread that the squirrel thread was nuked?
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Feb 1, 2013 - 05:56pm PT
I haven't followed all of your online debates with the guy Ed, was only referring to this thread and I didn't see DT being a douchbag.

How do you think this thread originated? By being a Douchebag!
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Feb 1, 2013 - 06:16pm PT
The squirrel thread was nuked in the sense of huge pic nuke by t*r, not delete nuke.

And DT is banned, just click on his avatar.
TMJesse

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
Feb 1, 2013 - 06:24pm PT
I prefer racism to show itself rather than hide from all of us. Thanks. Good job.

I meant it and stand by it. Either you're blind or you are ignorant. Ever heard of the KKK? This thread appears on Inauguration/MLK Day? The lights are on and everyone can see all around us.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 1, 2013 - 06:29pm PT
Innaguration Day was January 20th.

The 21st was Obama's Celebration Day.
TMJesse

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
Feb 1, 2013 - 06:46pm PT
I stand corrected, then. But, the public celebration of the event was held on Monday/MLK instead of Sunday, as other such inaugurations have been held when the 20th falls on a Sunday.

[Edit]
The 21st was Obama's Celebration Day.

I cannot find any official mention of such a title to that day. Please share your source.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Feb 1, 2013 - 06:56pm PT
The 21st was called the public Inauguration Day this year.

The 20 was the official swearing in date, because the oath must be taken before noon on the 20. The inauguration ceremony is pushed to Monday if the 20th is a Sunday.
John M

climber
Feb 1, 2013 - 07:09pm PT
But only to those few who i deemed had earned my most un-decorous behavior

This is where you make a mistake Philo. If others want to follow a thread or discuss a topic that you are polluting with your hate and disgust, then we have to wade through that hate and disgust.

Now me.. I don't mind the occasional fight. Sometimes its needed to clear the air. But the constant hate.. That I get tired of and tired of wading through it. I admit to having spread some of my own, but I am trying to do better and not go at it constantly. I wish you would try to do the same.

Jhedge too.

DT is gone.. Good

couchmaster

climber
pdx
Feb 1, 2013 - 08:24pm PT
Quoted:
"I meant it and stand by it. Either you're blind or you are ignorant. Ever heard of the KKK? This thread appears on Inauguration/MLK Day? The lights are on and everyone can see all around us."

Maybe I am blind. But I notice that you can't find the requested quote. It seems to me that it would be more productive if instead of thinking "Oh, criticism (Ie that in this case his policy's like DT's "National squirrel day" are do nothing) of the President? he's black, ergo, RACIST!!!". You could have better argued that sweeping issues are being fixed that will make our country stronger. Iraq, Afghanistan, health care. Then argue those specifically.

BTW, the President named it "National Day of Hope and Resolve" day. Which is competing against National Squirrel day". http://www.indecisionforever.com/blog/2013/01/21/barack-obama-competes-against-squirrel-appreciation-day

Thought I'd pitch that out there. Maybe that will get twisted by someone too. OMG HE MUST MEAN "Hate a Cracker Day, or F WHITY IN THE a day. Its to compensate for national squirrel day which we all know is nothing but a veiled racist term and reinitializing slavery.


NOT. Get a grip.
Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Feb 1, 2013 - 08:42pm PT
If you are sincere then maybe we have made some progress in this country.

Some of us however, are old enough to have lived through the era of church bombings, police dogs attacking people sitting and singing hymns in the street, Civil rights marchers both black and white being murdered and buried in levies and all white southern juries freeing the killers who sneered at the families of the dead. To some of us, racism is a vivid recollection and we want no part of any hint of it.

Choosing a squirrel as a symbol for a Black president is one step better than a coon but close enough for those of us with memories of that era. There is no doubt in my mind that Donald was making racist slurs and I'm appalled that people got so offended over boobs (a thread that was clearly and honestly labeled) and mostly let slide the one on squirrels.

Donald deserved to be banned for his racism if nothing else.
TMJesse

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
Feb 1, 2013 - 08:48pm PT
Whew! Thank you.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 1, 2013 - 08:56pm PT
Jan writes:

"Choosing a squirrel as a symbol for a Black president is one step better than a coon but close enough for those of us with memories of that era."


What if that exact same squirrel were used to take similar jabs at a white President? Then it wouldn't be a racist attack. Would it?

A quick Google Immages search will turn up a bunch of pictures of the last President and that exact same squirrel looking just as foolish as Obama.
Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Feb 1, 2013 - 09:02pm PT
If the same squirrel image is used on a white president, I would say there would be different connotations depending on what region of the country they come from. If they were from the high western desert, most people including themselves, would likely scratch their heads at the meaning of the reference.

If it was a white southern president then it would definitely be taken by him and everyone in that region as an insult, not to race but to background indicating that the cartoonist thought he was a backward ignorant poor person who had to hunt squirrels as a kid to survive.

Context is everything.
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