Cops arrested for shooting Elk in Boulder


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Trad climber
Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 18, 2013 - 07:25pm PT
Fuzz gets the axe. Sounds like serious charges too!

Jan 18, 2013 - 07:28pm PT
Also: 4 bald eagles found shot at Washington state lake last week

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 18, 2013 - 07:29pm PT
They feared for their lives.

Trad climber
Where the Hoback and the mighty Snake River meet
Jan 18, 2013 - 07:32pm PT

Trad climber
Jan 18, 2013 - 07:34pm PT

Jan 18, 2013 - 07:35pm PT
It's all nice and pretty until the thing gores a hippy kid trying to give it a hug.

Werner do tell us about how the deer kick ass on all other animals in the park when it comes to animal human encounters. It's my understanding they kick the sh#t out of people pretty regularly in yos.

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Jan 18, 2013 - 07:46pm PT
I'm glad them arrested. This elk was a regular and peaceful visitor. I hate seeing people behave unethically, and I REALLY HATE seeing LEOs behaving unethically. They are scum.

edit: Read the documents Ron. Pure on poach.They talked about it for days. One of the LEOs is a taxidermist who wanted it for that reason (and the meat). They erased their texts to one another discussing how they are going to kill it for some time before they did. Then they lied about it. Unbelievable they thought they'd get away with it as it happened in a neighborhood in someone's front yard. That home owner took photos and video.

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Jan 18, 2013 - 08:47pm PT
Good chance they will no longer be LEO either. They are a disgrace to any group they are/were affiliated with.

The pdf on the article linked above has lots of detail. Worth the read if you haven't read it yet.

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Jan 18, 2013 - 08:50pm PT
Sorry - the link above is from HuffPo. This is from the Boulder paper:

(check out the attached Pdf too)

On Wednesday, Boulder District Attorney Stan Garnett said prosecutors were waiting to decide on charges in the Mapleton elk shooting until they received the texts between Boulder police officers Sam Carter and Brent Curnow. As it turns out, they were worth waiting for.

According to investigators, the texts between Carter, Curnow and a Boulder County sheriff Deputy Jeff George showed that the shooting and disposing of the elk Jan. 1 was a premeditated hunt for a trophy kill.

The arrest affidavits for Carter and Curnow -- who were booked Friday on suspicion of nine different charges -- stated while analyzing the cell phone interaction between the two, investigators, "discovered several messages indicating that the killing of the elk was planned and personal gain of meat and trophy."

Carter told police he encountered the buck while on patrol that night, but at 2:56 a.m. -- almost 20 hours before the shooting -- Carter texted "Found wapiti (elk) you up," followed by a text of "Should I go hunting," at 4:14 a.m.

At 5:56 a.m. Carter texts George with the location of the elk, followed by George texting, "Did you shoot him?" to which Carter replies, "Nope."

At 2:45 p.m., Curnow texted, "You should have killed it," to Carter, who responded, "Oh he's dead tonight. His right side is broke off at main beam. And he looks a little smaller. He may not be wapiti, but he's gonna die."

By 10:43, Carter texts George that he had found the elk near Ninth Street and Mapleton Avenue and asks him to head to the scene.

Carter then tells Curnow at 11:44 that he found the elk. Curnow texts Carter back telling him to, "Get him," but Carter says "Too many people right now."

But at 11:55 p.m., just after Curnow asks Carter, "When you think you can wack it," Carter texts back, "Elk down."

In addition to the shooting, Carter and Curnow also discussed what to do with the meat. Just before the shooting at 11:54 p.m., Curnow asks Carter, "You gonna be able to help butcher it? Or are you gonna go home sick?" Carter responds, "I can butcher."

Boulder police said Curnow was supposed to be on duty that night but had called in sick. According to the arrest affidavit, Carter called in sick immediately after clearing the scene after the shooting.

All of the texts and calls from that night had been deleted on Carter and Curnow's phones when they were seized for evidence, but investigators were able to obtain them from their respective cell phone carriers.

Northern Mexico
Jan 18, 2013 - 09:22pm PT
The officers each face felony and misdemeanor charges that could lead up to eight years in prison. The charges include unlawful taking of an elk, a Samson surcharge, taking an elk out of season, official misconduct, forgery, two counts of tampering with evidence and attempting to influence a public servant. The last three counts are felonies.

probably get 6 months between the two of them.


Jan 18, 2013 - 09:30pm PT
F*#k boulder, f*#k your elk, and Double f*#k the police.

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 18, 2013 - 09:36pm PT
Cut the rope off their soap and send them to the big house.

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Jan 18, 2013 - 11:17pm PT
These guys were bow hunters?

Trad climber
Jan 18, 2013 - 11:42pm PT
The cops did the crime and now need to do the time. The candle light vigil for the elk was freaking hilarious and classic Boulder. Singing Amazing Grace out of tune for the elk had me on the floor laughing.

Somewhere out there
Jan 18, 2013 - 11:59pm PT
Fuzz gets the axe.

 Anyone who thinks that "cops" are anything but human beings needs to be more thoroughly educated.

They, the cops, are just as capable of doing dumb things as any redneck/hill-billie/dumbass/dipshit as the rest of us.


Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 19, 2013 - 12:15am PT
This is a problem of a locality with TOO MANY COPS.

Around here, the cops are BUSY. They have their hands full with actual CRIME, such as assaults, robberies, rapes, gangs, etc. They don't have TIME to hunt, fish, or even take a leak. They have more work than they can handle.

The police department in Boulder is obviously over-staffed. By far.

I've seen this problem where my folks live, on Whidbey Island in WA. There, they have at least SIX different law enforcement agencies patrolling the Island - the County Sheriff to the County Marshall to the N.C.I.S. to the State Troopers to the Park Police to the Oak Harbor Police to the Coupevile Cops. The cops there have NOTHING TO DO at all. Nothing. Crime doesn't exist there, so they all just sit in the shadows and man the Radar Traps. This causes the locals to be terrified of being stopped for speeding, so everybody there drives ten miles under the too-low-already speed limit, and really destroys the quality of life for anybody who likes to drive on that island.

Cops in Boulder having enough free time at work to do some hunting tells any intelligent person that Boulder has about two or three times as many cops as they actually need.

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Jan 19, 2013 - 12:33am PT
Elk smell.

Moose rule!

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Jan 19, 2013 - 12:43am PT
Ron, put your gun away...

Captain...or Skully

Jan 19, 2013 - 12:48am PT
I used to work for a trucking outfit that would fire you if you f*#ked with a moose. Some of those good ol' boys still think that horn does something. A moose ain't gonna take no guff. He'll f*#k you up.
Peterbilt or not.

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 19, 2013 - 12:53am PT
I used to see moose walking on the driveway of the bar I worked at in Alaska. The tourist types would mob the windows, all trying to get pictures.

I'd yawn, and say, "Is that son of a bitch back again? He's just going to sh#t on the driveway. You watch". And sure enough, he'd sh#t on the driveway.
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