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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jun 30, 2010 - 12:25am PT
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As I recall, the evolution started with extralong sections of #10 Hex stock. They weighed a ton and never hit the market. Thin walled tubing was readily available without setting up yet another extrusion. The fillets lessened the twist rocking making the tubular bells easier to place securely.
CMI offered their I beams at about the same time. I don't have any their units.
I never fiddled with the Forrest T beams beyond the biggest Titon. That mass of aluminum would have made a dandy mace! I did place it quite a bit as a 4" nut just a tad larger than a #11 Hex.
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ScottW
Trad climber
CA
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Jun 30, 2010 - 01:03am PT
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If my memory serves me right, I thought DR was involved in their original design. Correct me if I'm off base on this.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jun 30, 2010 - 05:52pm PT
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DR himself would have to weigh in here. If he had a hand in all things tubular, I'm sure he will enter and sign in please!
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Thorgon
Big Wall climber
Sedro Woolley, WA
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Jun 30, 2010 - 06:22pm PT
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Steve, I have 5 sizes, how many were there?
Thor
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jun 30, 2010 - 06:27pm PT
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The range was 4" - 6" in 1/2" increments for a total of five tubes.
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Thorgon
Big Wall climber
Sedro Woolley, WA
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Jun 30, 2010 - 06:46pm PT
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Great, thanks, now I need the #3 & #4 original Chouinard Camalots!
Thor
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MisterE
Social climber
Bouncy Tiggerville
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Jun 30, 2010 - 08:06pm PT
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Dude! Put down the bongs!
;)
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bobinc
Trad climber
Portland, Or
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Jun 30, 2010 - 09:23pm PT
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There is some text in DR's book that suggests he was involved in the design.
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Tricouni
Mountain climber
Vancouver
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Here's a photo of the rack we used on the 1st ascent of Pipeline at Squamish (early 1966). I'll try and hunt up a photo of the route with the tubes in use.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Awesome shot, Glenn! Thanks for posting it.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Nice rack.
You guys were shaving your heads back then?? LOL
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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That's a helmet, Ron, on Leif Patterson's head.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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LOL
(bagged one!)
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local
Social climber
eldorado springs
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We drilled and countersunk about anything that would take a sling.
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Tricouni
Mountain climber
Vancouver
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And here's the darned things in use....
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Nice looking fatcrack! I can see why Greg jumped on in! LOL
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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This thread has gone all tubular - fantastic!
Glenn, your photo is amazing. Photo of the month, I'd say Was it from 1965 or 1966? The caption says 1966, the photo of Leif says "early 1966".
Here's a photo of Slhanay (formerly called the Squaw), on which is Pipeline:
The route for Pipeline is much the same as or a bit to the right of what is now the first half of Birds of Prey, to the 'jog', then up the arching left-facing corner to the right. (Grey strip, between white areas.)
The big right-facing corner is Right Wing.
A photo from the site that dares not speak its name, from the same spot as Glenn's was taken from, but of a modern free climber.
Now where are all those wyde people, anyway? They should be lapping this stuff up.
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Captain...or Skully
Big Wall climber
Transporter Room 2
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Oh, they're lapping.
Anticipation to bleeding is exquisite.
Or some such.
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Mimi
climber
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Jeeze, Greg! That was a proud send!
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Wack
climber
Dazevue
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For those that missed tube chock era the proper way to rack tube chocks was to pull the perlon out one end of the tube so you could rack them in a vertical orientation minimizing the clutter.
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