survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jan 16, 2013 - 05:19pm PT
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Great post drool!
Hey Ghost, what hockey team does your wife play for?
BWA HA HA hahahahahaaa!!!!!
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Snowmassguy
Trad climber
Calirado
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Jan 16, 2013 - 05:21pm PT
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My combat ribbon was sold to pay for my next climbing trip. Instead being barked at by some a**hole military dude, I was plotting how to finance my next trip to ( fill in cool climbing destination). At the peak of my dirtbaggery, I moved to Chamonix! GASP
I totally am not a patriot. I also enjoy playing and watching soccer/futbol. I should probably move to Canada or something.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Jan 16, 2013 - 05:22pm PT
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Dingus, by your definition patriots are a dieing breed. WWII was the last time we defended Ol' Glory.
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Dingus Milktoast
Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
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Jan 16, 2013 - 05:23pm PT
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The Larry, who's 'We'?
DMT
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Jan 16, 2013 - 05:25pm PT
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My Grandpa and maybe yours.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jan 16, 2013 - 05:33pm PT
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Hey Ghost, what hockey team does your wife play for?
Well Bruce, if you think I get confused about things patriotic, her situation is even crazier. The one country that doesn't play a part in it though, is Canada.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jan 16, 2013 - 05:34pm PT
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WWII was the last time we defended Ol' Glory.
Hmmmm, I can think of a few million Korea, Nam, Gulf 1, Gulf 2 and Afghanistan vets who would disagree.............
Well Bruce, if you think I get confused about things patriotic, her situation is even crazier. The one country that doesn't play a part in it though, is Canada.
Ok, well PM me so I can understand! You still get free chile though.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Jan 16, 2013 - 05:36pm PT
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I went and got me one of these:
The National Defense Service Medal.
But I ain't no g#$%&mn patriot. That kinda talk is for Sarah, Track, Tank, Trig, Todd, and Tugboat (or wTF ever they named the latest snowbilly).
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jan 16, 2013 - 05:37pm PT
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That kinda talk is for Sarah, Track, Tank, Trig, Todd, and Tugboat (or wTF ever they named the latest snowbilly).
Ok, that was funny as FUK!
And I was raised Alaskan! G'damn, maybe that's what made it so phuggin funny!
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Jan 16, 2013 - 05:44pm PT
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I'm pretty sure the last country that attacked us was Japan.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Jan 16, 2013 - 05:53pm PT
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^^^
I'm pretty sure it was Saudi Arabia.
I did a few years in AK, during the time when Caribou Barbie ran and won the Governorship. People think she was an inept clown (and they are right), but they should get to know the guy she beat in the primary, John Binkley, a local Fairbanks family-money guy who was an even bigger as#@&%e and moron. I had to deal with that goober and his dipshit brother in the course of my job. Sarah looked like Rhodes Scholar material next to these entitled buffoons.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jan 16, 2013 - 05:59pm PT
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I'm pretty sure it was Saudi Arabia. Via Asscrackistan and a basement in Germany, and England and Los Angeles and and and and and and and and.
While I agree that we can't just take off on adventure wars whenever we see fit, it's a bit more complicated than Pearl Harbor these days.
But what do I know? I'm only a high school graduate...............
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jan 16, 2013 - 06:13pm PT
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I'm pretty sure it was Saudi Arabia.
nah, Saudi Arabia did not attack us on 9/11
but a number of their "rogue" citizens did, just like we got some loose screws here too
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Jan 16, 2013 - 06:20pm PT
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A person can't do everything. Some defend against foreign enemies, others defend against domestic enemies.
Poverty is a domestic enemy.
Not supporting our Veterans is a domestic enemy that undermines the strength of our country.
I have fought against both of those.
i guess you assume our country is strong, moose. i think it's weak. oh, it's become the bully of the world, but its people are cowering, self-absorbed, ignorant, and quite happy about it. except, of course, when chickens come home to roost.
your fighting seems to be in the past tense. a patriot would look around and find lots to keep fighting about. freedom isn't free, and it's being strangled every day while you "patriots" pose and posture.
the fallacy of the militarism i hear being voiced here is that one must have a war. without a war, there can be no patriotism, no heroism, might as well not have a country. from my point of view, the vietnam era saw the real patriots coming to the fore, using our national media, our democratic processes and our cultural debate to end a war that was a piece of sh#t being shoved down our throats for reasons no one could make sense of. america won the vietnam war, but it wasn't the unthinking soldiers who enlisted and took the orders to kill for no good reason. the american people ended that war, the first war and only war ever ended by a people in the history of the world. frankly, i think it's something to be very, very proud of.
but then the spin doctors got ahold of it and no one cares to remember it that way at all. the mandatory draft was abolished, the military turned into the province of wannabe rambos (we certainly have our share of them on supertopo), dummies who can't make it into junior college, and illegal aliens. yes, illegal aliens, as i noted above. while the tea party people are grousing about losing their w.a.s.p. culture, the army fills up with second-, first- and sometimes wetback-generation latinos who think it's a great inside track to the american mainstream. you can bet they leave their critical thinking and their sense of duty to anything as abstract as the constitution way back at the port of entry. what el padron asks, el padron gets.
i put you in that category, andrzej. i will tell you point blank that i think that foreigners coming over here looking at a corrupt system through rosy-colored glasses, thinking they're in a big candy store, is the last thing america needs. this country is sick and it needs to cure itself. if you like it better than the communist system which used to infect poland, take those glasses off and it will become more and more familiar.
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Jim Brennan
Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
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Jan 16, 2013 - 06:35pm PT
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"dummies who can't make it into junior college".
There's that common touch you're becoming famous for Tony. Did your fingernails get dirty by choice or circumstance ?
You are a snob.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jan 16, 2013 - 06:56pm PT
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"dummies who can't make it into junior college".
how about Community College?
don't know, does that have the same status as Junior College?
and then there is General College verus College of Liberal Arts
can we get a good ranking?
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jan 16, 2013 - 07:08pm PT
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can we get a good ranking?
And does having a degree in chemistry make you more patriotic than someone who has a degree in engineering?
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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Jan 16, 2013 - 07:47pm PT
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Patriots? Yes, some of the best. What would we do without them.
“From January 1997 until being sworn in as the 21st Secretary of Defense in January 2001, Rumsfeld served as Chairman of Gilead Sciences, Inc. Gilead Sciences is the developer of Tamiflu (Oseltamivir), which is used in the treatment of bird flu.[36] As a result, Rumsfeld's holdings in the company grew significantly when avian flu became a subject of popular anxiety during his later term as Secretary of Defense. Following standard practice, Rumsfeld recused himself from any decisions involving Gilead, and he directed the Pentagon's General Counsel to issue instructions outlining what he could and could not be involved in if there were an avian flu pandemic and the Pentagon had to respond.[37][38][39]”
Remember all those $$$$$$$$ added to the debt for profit or is it death for profit? A Patriot to heart.
Oliver “Goofy” North? He is currently on the board of NRA.
Rex 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984, was a secretive "scenario and drill" developed by the United States federal government to suspend the United States Constitution, declare martial law, place military commanders in charge of state and local governments, and detain large numbers of American citizens who are deemed to be "national security threats", in the event that the President declares a "State of National Emergency". The plan states events causing such a declaration would be widespread U.S. opposition to a U.S. military invasion abroad, such as if the United States were to directly invade Central America.[1][2][3][4][5] To combat what the government perceived as "subversive activities", the plan also authorized the military to direct ordered movements of civilian populations at state and regional levels.[6]
Was written by Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North. True Patriot for sure. All those US weapons left in Iragi hands to kill our own and will continue. Wait you are thinking that was Latin America what has he do with Irag? He is a Patriot, his kind of patriotism always in secrets and lies.
How about Pat Robertson? who gave funds to North and some comrades many years back and still does: Dictates for THEOCRACY; by all means the greatest Patriot. He tried once as Presidential candidate. Wonder why God did not warn him of the disaster? He has not admitted it but sure he agrees with “Sandy Hook truthers.” Much like the “9/11 truthers,” who cast doubt on the veracity of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, these people say the school shootings were a massive hoax or conspiracy perpetrated by the government [Obama] or others [Muslims].
And his dead buddy, well actually they never got along but wanted an agenda for a NEW AMERICA.
"I hope I live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won't have any public schools. The Churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them." - "America Can be Saved," January 1, 1979
President Cheney, for sure, He has to be one, as soon as he dies everyone will rejoice in saying the most dedicated and devoted man to this Country.
Another Patriot:
And another:
One that needed his wife Nancy to have cards read from the dead to make decisions, some too late.
AH! Yes there must be more: Coors as in the beer,
Yes! true Patriots, where would we be without them?
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jan 16, 2013 - 07:56pm PT
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Quite a nice "rogues gallery" you have assembled.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Jan 16, 2013 - 08:00pm PT
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moosedrool-
I'm glad you're living out the American dream but the first thing that strikes me about your story is that you have done well because you received a good education before you got here. One does not become a lab technician or a chemist overnight. In fact, of all the U.S. military students I've had during a 37 year teaching career for a university that gives classes to the military overseas, the best prepared were those from the former Soviet bloc. Whatever else they did over there, they provided excellent education.
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