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Anastasia
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InLOVEwithAris.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2013 - 04:08pm PT
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Bump! Just a nudge and I'm done.
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Karen
Trad climber
So Cal urban sprawl Hell
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Jan 13, 2013 - 04:18pm PT
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Gang members put a fire cracker up his nose! What an abomination:( budding sociopaths, argh! I sure hope this sweet looking dog finds a good home.
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Reeotch
Trad climber
4 Corners Area
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Jan 13, 2013 - 04:40pm PT
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^^^^WTF is wrong with people?!
Why some people get enjoyment out of torturing innocent animals. I've seen this since I was a kid, so its nothing new. But, seriously some people literally seem to get enjoyment in this way! Is it the power or what. Yeah, we live in a sick society.
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2013 - 05:05pm PT
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I really feel bad for the pup. It is obviously a good dog that is feeling very lost, alone and in danger of it's life and sadly knows it. Poor, sweet, baby...
Breaks my heart and also gives me hope. He obviously didn't turn vicious from the abuse and will bloom with proper care. He'll take a bit time to feel safe and accepted but I am sure once that happens, wham... Yeah, he'll have the title of best dog EVER. Wish someone will have room and love for him. The vet clinic will take care of his medical needs so all there is a need for is the basics that every living thing deserves.
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hossjulia
Trad climber
Where the Hoback and the mighty Snake River meet
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Jan 13, 2013 - 05:32pm PT
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saw this on FB, poor thing. Sure wish I could help.
When I was 10 or so, I heard cats squalling just ahead of me in a culvert. I ran up to see, and was horrified to see 2 boys tying the cats tails together and then slinging them over a power line! I rushed them immediately, yelling at the top of my lungs but I was too late. Both cats tails got de-gloved. I beat the holy hell out of those boys, crying, throwing rocks at them, hit one on the head, lucky I did not kill them. I don't think one of them ever touched me, they were running for their lives.
Very traumatic, cried uncontrollably for hours, even after I got home and told my Mom.
Adopted a cat that had been set on fire with lighter fluid. She was found 80% burned, including her teats, and she was nursing kittens. The kittens died, the poison in her from being so badly burned. Unbelievably she was the sweetest thing ever and loved people, especially kids, and it was again boys who did this to her. She died from skin cancer about 10 years later.
Society is sick.
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mitchy
Trad climber
new england
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Jan 13, 2013 - 06:36pm PT
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Sh#t, wished i lived out there, i'd take him in a heart beat, got two rescue dogs right now.
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2013 - 06:59pm PT
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Thanks guys... I feel the same way.
All we need is one taker. One savior. Just one super awesome person. I hope by the end of the day this happens.
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10b4me
Boulder climber
Somewhere on 395
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Jan 13, 2013 - 07:16pm PT
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I am tempted, but don't know if I am ready to take on a dog so soon after my doggies' death
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2013 - 07:22pm PT
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I understand 10b4me... Take your time. Your heart knows when it's right.
Sadly when I saw the picture, I recognize the body language and it's screaming for help and kindness. It hit me to the core. I know this dog would be right for us except for the fact we don't have the stability it needs to heal. We are in between positions and until we have a clue, I have no right to take this on. The last thing this dog needs is to be moved around a whole lot and challenged by our Loki Alpha. Loki will be getting nervous from the moves so she might react by being territorial. He doesn't need another rejection because of outside circumstances.
Yes, I know dogs. When I say he has all the ear marking of being AWESOME. I mean it. Malamutes are very smart and independent, when they adopt into a family, it's a loyalty that can't be compared. He is going to take TIME to feel safe again, but when he does, you will be his everything.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Jan 13, 2013 - 07:30pm PT
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Who has room for a person?
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2013 - 07:36pm PT
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"Giggling..." People can never be as loyal as dogs. You outgrow your people which dogs never do. :)
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Jan 13, 2013 - 08:05pm PT
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I find it quite interesting and more than a bit disturbing especialy on this site how dogs get treated much much better than people. The recent thread about Peru is a perfect example...
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2013 - 08:57pm PT
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For one BIG reason is no one here is asking for money. In fact the dog's vet bills are already covered. Second... You really think people trying to get their stolen stuff compensated is in the same category as finding a home for this abused dog? Really? I don't see how it even relates. Third... The dog being in dire straits is obvious. Those folks on the other hand were out of danger and just wanted to get stuff back, paid tickets home, and the guy wants some dental work and his truck fixed. Nothing life threatening and... In fact nothing they can not do on their own with a little elbow grease and time. Yes, what they went through was bad but that's over.
Lastly they knew driving in South America can involve danger. They met it fully knowing, choosing that risks. Trust me a dog has no such power, no such ability.
This dog can not help itself. Most likely will die if it remains in the same situation. Those folks on the other hand might suffer a bit of an economic set back, but they will recover. If they can save up for such a trip in such a set up camper truck, they can save up to help themselves.
Yes I am telling you they need to suck it up.
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Dropline
Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
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Jan 13, 2013 - 09:27pm PT
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If no one has taken him yet I might be able to. I need more info on his disposition and how he gets along with other dogs. He looks like a great dog. Just have to figure out if he'd get along with my ten year old golden. Might be good for the two of them to keep each other company.
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2013 - 09:30pm PT
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Dropline, Just post up on the site and let her know!!!!! That is AWESOME! I am so happy!
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Dropline
Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
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Jan 13, 2013 - 09:38pm PT
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Anastasia, for some reason I couldn't comment on that page, so I sent Lori a pm on FB.
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2013 - 10:55pm PT
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Perfect! I feel really good now. No matter what happens, at least things are rolling. Thanks!
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Jan 14, 2013 - 06:43am PT
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What I said has little to do with the details of the peru thing. It has everything to do with the attitude. The compasion for people is extreemly conditional and close to non existant yet the compasion for a dog is unconditional..
People and especially women treat their dog on average much better than their spouse. In fact most women are nicer to a complete strangers dog or a stray dog than they are to their significant other. You think it's funny. I see it as one of the major flaws with our society.
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 14, 2013 - 12:23pm PT
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You should ask my spouse about that. :) I think he will give the best answer.
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10b4me
Boulder climber
Somewhere on 395
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Jan 14, 2013 - 12:30pm PT
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People and especially women treat their dog on average much better than their spouse. In fact most women are nicer to a complete strangers dog or a stray dog than they are to their significant other.
sour grapes man
I like most animals. The same cannot be said of most people
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weezy
climber
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Jan 14, 2013 - 12:57pm PT
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maybe the spouse is nicer to dogs because her husband is an entitled, whiny "tradclimber" who makes blanket morality judgments about society because someone wants to find a dog a home.
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Jan 14, 2013 - 01:30pm PT
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dang, weezy..are you a mind reader.....
(-;
I hope Dropline gets the doggie... or the doggie gets to have *Dropline.
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atchafalaya
Boulder climber
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Jan 14, 2013 - 01:37pm PT
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Ditto what weezy said. Good luck, i hope that dog finds a great home. Thanks for helping.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Jan 14, 2013 - 02:29pm PT
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People and especially women treat their dog on average much better than their spouse. In fact most women are nicer to a complete strangers dog or a stray dog than they are to their significant other.
Really? I suppose you are entitled to feel that way, but it is a pretty strange thing to say. It smells a little like...ohhh what IS that smell... I can't quite define it but maybe...maybe it's Misogyny.
Edit: I do hope that dog finds a good home. Teddy is a one-dog dog for me though. Finacially, I cannot take on another dog, and also Teddy has shown to me that he has some issues with muscle dogs. At the vet today, the nicest Shephard came up to nose him, and Teddy's tail went so rigid I knew what was coming... "Let me at 'im!" Teddy snarled. "Let me AT him!" I think that is there was a word for a dog hating on another type of dog, like a misogynist does with women, Teddy would have that issue. "I can hear Teddy now..."In fact most muscle dogs (insert some erronious belief based on some past experience that is no longer relevant)"
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James Wilcox
Boulder climber
The Coast
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Jan 14, 2013 - 02:52pm PT
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There are rescue groups in So. Cal. that specialize in Alaska Malmute rescue, rehab, and placement. I highly recommend one of them be contacted for assistance.
Those dogs lucky enough to be a breed that has it's own rescue group usually do well in the long run. Unlike your average shelter, they do a pretty good job screening potential adopters and typically have a pretty high rate of successful adoptions.
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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Jan 14, 2013 - 03:02pm PT
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Familiarity breeds contempt..dogs love unconditionally, spouses don't.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Jan 14, 2013 - 07:11pm PT
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I didn't step in anything. you people are so blind with your dogs that you don't even realize that your whole yard is covered in dog sh#t. Heck I was shoveling dog sh#t at a guys house today and he was talking baby talk to the dog about being a bad boy. Just imagin what that would have sounded like if the wife had taken a huge dump on the front walkway.
Seriously Folks. just take a look at this site as a small cross section of society. A dog gets hurt and everyone is overflowing with sympathy.
A person gets hurt and most people judge them and many people ridicule them unless of course they are someone famous in which case they get almost (but not quite) as much love as a dog.
If you did a survey where the husbands knew with 200% certinty that the wife would NEVER know what they said or even that they took the survey and you asked the husbands, Who does the wife treat better. You or the dog? Garenfckenteed that at least 90% of them will answer The Dog.
If everyone simply gave as much love to their fellow humans as they give to dogs most of the worlds problems would be solved.
Just the facts baby ;)
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Jan 14, 2013 - 08:07pm PT
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PS. I mean no offense to anyone who knows or is a famous person. Everyone deservs to be loved regardless of their social stature. It is however a fact that the more well known a climber is the more of a free pass they get here on this site when they have an accident. Anna, this Not just about the peru thread though it is a great example of what I am talking about. Almost every climbing accident involving a human gets picked apart with a heavy dose of negativity.
The start of this thread was so full of blind love for the dog that I could not help myself from pointing it out when there is such a lack of love for the humans on this site. The attacks against me for pointing this out simply prove my point. If I was a barking dog most of you would have said something allong the lines of.. " oh it's Ok, look his tail is wagging. he just want's to play.. Isn't he cute!"
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Jan 14, 2013 - 08:26pm PT
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Heck, just look at how you treat each other on the Peru thread. Would you be that nasty to a stray dog?
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Jan 14, 2013 - 08:29pm PT
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You're classic, tradman. You speak some truth, for sure. We've been through this before with you.
You're not into dogs, you think we're slaves, etc...
At least you're bumping a thread with a worthwhile mission!
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Jan 14, 2013 - 08:31pm PT
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Anastasia, Mother's Spirit is strong in you. You have a gift and may it never be a burden. Your light is a like a fire that is spreading.
Peace out.
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weezy
climber
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Jan 14, 2013 - 08:34pm PT
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oh no won't someone think about the privileged white americans and their horrible plight to replace the tacoma and all the patagucci softgoods!?!?!
sit the fuck down, trademan. you're an attention whore who hates dogs, we get it. take your highhorse moral browbeating elsewhere.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Jan 14, 2013 - 08:37pm PT
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Weezy , that was such a nice thing you said.
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weezy
climber
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Jan 14, 2013 - 08:41pm PT
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i was blessed with a silver tongue. it's just forked is all.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Jan 14, 2013 - 09:23pm PT
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You guys have me all wrong if you think I hate dogs. I am quite selective on which dogs I like. If the dog is cool and someone else looks after them then I like em just fine. I do however see through their act. They are the best freeloaders on the planet.. Just imagin the sh#t you would be talking about any Human that was even half the accomplished freeloader of your average dog ;)
A few weeks ago a new dog moved into the neighborhood. Old guy, big red hound with a gray nose. He ambled over to my house and was looking in my front door with big droopy eyes, I opened the door and he ambled in like it was his house. I liked his vibe so I gave him a treat and we chatted a bit and then I told him he better head on home so he peed on my tires took a dump on my nice clean snow and then ambled on over to his house. He is a pretty cool dog.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Jan 14, 2013 - 09:31pm PT
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If you did a survey where the husbands knew with 200% certinty that the wife would NEVER know what they said or even that they took the survey and you asked the husbands, Who does the wife treat better. You or the dog? Garenfckenteed that at least 90% of them will answer The Dog.
So...if you asked the wives of those very men the same question, do you believe the women would say the men treated them better than the dog? Or are the men as in love with dogs as the women?
I got no problem with you liking or not liking dogs - it's the women-bashing that has got me wondering. You are railing about people not loving other people, and this is what you have to say about the females? Sure don't sound like love to me - conditional or without conditions!
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Jan 14, 2013 - 09:37pm PT
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Emerson is not too bad. He has a cat door that is open 24/7 so I never have to get up and open doors for him. He is completly free to come and go as he pleases. There is NO LITTER BOX! he always goes outside even in winter and has the decency to bury it. He does a little bit of work killing the occasional rodent.. but yes he is still a fairly accomplished freeloader:)
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Jan 14, 2013 - 09:47pm PT
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Happie. I am probobly a bit biased in that obsevation as I am a guy so I hear the guys end of the story all the time. Additionaly I work in the horse show world which is 98% women and they all have dogs. Watching thousands of divorced women interact with their dogs and men all summer may have influenced my thoughts on this matter. It was not however intended as women bashing. Simply an observation on how humans behave.
Then again I did read a stat on yahoo a few days ago that 72% of divorces are initated by women so perhaps I am not that far off base?
Additionaly I have never heard of a wife complaining that they have to sleep on the couch and the dog gets to sleep in bed with the wife. Haveing heard several husbands with that gripe leads me to believe that perhaps I am on to something here;)
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Jan 14, 2013 - 09:54pm PT
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Regarding the divorce thing - studies have shown that men are less likely to leave a marriage they are unhappy in than women are. The men tend to just tune out and ignore the issues, whereas the women tend to not accept unhappy situations.
And you may not see what you were saying as women-bashing, but as a woman, I can tell you it absolutely came off that way. If I heard a man talk like that in person, I would give wide berth to that guy.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Jan 14, 2013 - 10:02pm PT
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Happie. I am NOT giveing the guys a free pass by any means. The men are bad, the women are a bit worse than the men in this regard. Not women bashing just an obsevation.. go ahead a shoot the messenger if it makes you feel better..
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jan 14, 2013 - 10:04pm PT
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If I were married, the Wife had damn well better treat the Dog better than she treats me. Because I can take care of myself, but the Dog needs human support.
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John M
climber
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Jan 14, 2013 - 10:16pm PT
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Dogs aren't freeloaders. They give love.
Maybe you don't appreciate the love that they give, but obviously others do.
Sounds more and more to me like you are jealous. Though I do agree with you that some people do treat their dogs better then they treat other people, but then dogs don't create the same kinds of problems that people do.
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DanaB
climber
CT
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Jan 15, 2013 - 02:00am PT
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Women care more about a dog then the husband? You're surprised? The order of importance is:
1. Kids
2. Me
3. House
4. Car
5. Furniture
6. Stove
7. Refrigerator
And so on. The husband is somewhere above a door stop, but below a roll of paper towels.
Still, it's not a bad life.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Jan 15, 2013 - 06:46am PT
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If I were married, the Wife had damn well better treat the Dog better than she treats me. Because I can take care of myself, but the Dog needs human support.
Thanks Chaz! That made my day.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Jan 15, 2013 - 06:53am PT
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Damn right I am jelous! just imagin all the female attention I could get if I was a dog:)
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