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Fish Finder

Social climber
Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 10, 2013 - 09:11am PT
Classic Stuff many missed.

Brings up the question- do we moderate ourselves?

What is with spineless people who delete and edit and delete and re-post and other poster putting pressure on OP threads.

Cracks me up.

Many people get stuck in thinking that Supertopo is actually only what they think it is. It is its own beast and can go anywhere and do anything at anytime. lets all remember that we have a right to freedom of speech.

And how about the EGO babies who get their underwear in a bunch and proclaim they are to great and leaving, only to come back with their tales between their legs , like nothing ever happened. You know who you are!!!

Here is a new one for you Jason , maybe it will get $10 in my Paypal.

"You look pretty silly with those balls on your Chinchen."

So last night Chinchen posted a thread that he was tired of having to read Neebee's intro ," hey say there" or whatever , the christians would have none of it and then it brought back up the "work debacle " , and the christians would have none of it, pressure, delete HAHAHAhahahahah!!!

saved for posterity :

Way out there....

Topic Author's Reply - Dec 1, 2010 - 12:33pm PT
Still no job. Still angry at a jackass heartless bastard who moved my family 1000 miles to sh#t on us and leave us without options. For what reason? Not because I did a bad job. Because of money, to save a buck and because the lady in charge doesn't want to train. And he didn't even come to look me in the eye when they let me go without explanation or cause.

Joe Rousek aka J Rousek Toy Company is a spoiled childish as#@&%e with a trust fund in the form of a company that he put no work into and gets all the rewards of being aloof and disconnected from the reality of how he treats people. NO benefits? Nothing for the work people put in but a culture of fear that they will be let go and then what? Cant find jobs in small towns. He lets a psycho man hater run his company and make poor decisions because he is would just make worse ones.

And then he dumps loads of toxic waste and plastic into the landfill every week in the form of bad shipments of toys. Tell me Los Angeles, do you know how much lead and cadmium Joe Rousek is putting into your drinking water? Does he pay for recycling? Hell no, way too cheap of a bastard.
But he attends church every week and preaches up a storm about how god does wonderful things in peoples lives......hypocrite.

Do I sound like a disgruntled employee? lol.

I cant look at my wife anymore and tell her everything is going to be alright."

"Topic Author's Reply - Jan 9, 2013 - 07:18pm PT Im jes playin. BUT Joe is a f*#king dick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Every word I wrote about him I stand behind because it is true."

Jason - We all create what is around us !!!

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jan 10, 2013 - 10:28am PT
"Classic Stuff many missed."

More like...

'Stupid sh#t that doesn't require reposting in a thread like this.'
Fish Finder

Social climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 10, 2013 - 10:43am PT

so you are the decider of what is posted, and not of only what you post?

Trad climber
mt. hood /baja
Jan 10, 2013 - 10:51am PT
agree with apogee... neebee brings more positivity and is a
breath of fresh air to this forum. chinchen was havin a bad
hair day. This all will pass just as even the great threads

we love you neebee ....pay no attention to that naughty man :)

Jan 10, 2013 - 10:58am PT
"We all create what is around us"

Sometimes yes

Sometimes sh#t happens

Fish Finder

Social climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 10, 2013 - 10:59am PT
We all know Neebee is great and that her style is appreciated.

She has a unique personality and writing style.

Nobody is criticizing Neebee, Jason just posted he waa tired of this phrase.

Jason is all that and more that Jefe mentioned on the Eastside wx condition thread.

I like Jason , he speaks his mind and is creative, maybe I dont agree with some of his antics but it is who he is and I can accept that.

Quit emailing me and posting that I should delete this, that is one of my points and this is an open forum.

Social climber
Jan 10, 2013 - 11:03am PT
def need to rehash this.
Timid TopRope

Social climber
'used to be Paradise, CA
Jan 10, 2013 - 11:10am PT
All you will achieve with this thread is hurt the feelings of the kindest person on this forum. It doesn't take a Christian to recognize this.
Fish Finder

Social climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 10, 2013 - 11:19am PT

Andy , Riley and such,

Hope your New Year is going great.

Thank you for your comments but this is exactly my point about the pressure of others on what others post.

Who is really to be the Judge?

Way out there....
Jan 10, 2013 - 11:20am PT
What hair I have left...

A report for the uninformed....

I live in Bishop. I was hired here at a local toy importation and pencil company in 2010. I left a successful Yacht care company that I had started in Anacortes, Wa. with my wife to move here. The environment was better for my children and we were used to the high desert.
At my 3 month review I was let go with no cause.
The owner of the company had taken me climbing and tried to talk religion with me. I am a reformed pastors kid,it didn't fly with me but we had a long, reasonable discussion in which I had told him my biggest problem with todays modern american religion is the way children are manipulated into believing this stuff at a very young age. Turns out he and his 14 yr old son speak tounges at church.....This is what I believe precipitated the termination of my $23/hr job. "Eastside legend" or not, that guy has very poor business acumen.
So frustrated with that? yea, a bit. But I am an eternal optimist, so....I went climbing.

Been here almost three years now, Started several small businesses. Vertigo Chalk Bags, Headspace Graphic Design, and helped my wife get Kara's Earth Natural Tea and Salve going. Do I make a living at all that? Not quite. I just finished laying out a hiking guide for the Eastern Sierra that will be coming out in a few months that I am very proud of and no doubt many of you will end up owning. Kara is running the Black Sheep Coffee house and is growing that with the owner Peter. They just moved the shop to main st. and are running 3X the business as they were before the move.
I started an open mic in Bishop to help bring the community together, and that has been a hit. I care for the local climbing areas as well as any can. Constantly picking up tape, trash, glass, sh#t.....the list goes on.
"Work" on the Eastside is hard to come by, so you make it however you can. Actually right now I am in talks to take over a local printing business with the capability to print and publish books and anything else that can be printed. It is a solid business with a large client base already. I hope it works out to be the thing that solidifies my existence here. But if not, I will go on living and loving my family and friends.

Now about my post last night. It was not a bash on Neebee, who as someone else pointed out is a solid person with a great attitude. Just a silly diversion from the blah blah blah that is always clogging up this joint. The intention was to make it a "Sayings I hate" thread but that backfired....
I got a few emails explaining some circumstances I did not know and I deleted the thread. I would not normally do that.

Heres the thing. I'm sarcastic and can be caustic sometimes. It doesn't translate well in cybersville. BUT. I love everybody I come across the same.

If you come to Bishop and need a shower? Dinner? A ride? Help Moving? A hug? I am here.


Social climber
Jan 10, 2013 - 11:26am PT
Geez man sorry to hear all that :(

It isn't easy trying to make it work in the places we love, ESPECIALLY as a family... it is one thing for me to share some of your problems, because it's just me and my ex's cat, but you have children to think of... reminds me of my brother in law moving to New Jersey from So Cal because that's where the money was. It sucks.

Too bad about Joe, if people have poor judgement it isn't isolated to particular events and it spills over into the rest of their lives. Having only your story to go off of he sure seems like one not looking out for your interest, best not to be around that person.

Social climber
Jan 10, 2013 - 11:30am PT
And as a guy that grew up very religious, trying to re-convert me would be like talking me back into being a virgin. Ain't happenin'... but thanks ;D I love to entertain the conversation, no one can make you think anything against your will and if nothing else you can learn a lot from people who devote themselves to a faith. Is it for me or Jason? No. But patience, charity, friendship, religion gives people some tools that are hard to acquire in the 'real' world... think of it as a shotgun blast of morality? lol.

There are threads (and tomes and videos and lecture halls) devoted to THAT aspect of this story so probably isn't worth getting into, suffice to say something perhaps more unique - you can LEARN from crazy religious people sometimes. Even ones that believe in monsters and spells.

Trad climber
mt. hood /baja
Jan 10, 2013 - 11:33am PT
Jason ...best to you brother ...keep yer stick on the ice
group hug

Jan 10, 2013 - 11:46am PT
Hey .... I know this guy (Joe) from years ago.

He started this business from scratch.

But when I knew him he wasn't into religion at all.

I haven't seen him in years so something must have happened.

looks like he got fat too, LOL.

Anyways, sounds fuked up if you lose your job over some guys religion.

Maybe he became one of those right wing type guys?

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 10, 2013 - 12:42pm PT
Jason, glad I connected last night. This tempest is just an example of not thinking things through pre-post. I'm very new at the computer and its world is such a fast one it is not a place n00bs will enjoy all the time, since we make errors, step on toes, bash without thinking, and it is all so easily avoided by being patient and thinking.

I have been privileged, as many are here on the Taco, to correspond with the dream-catchingest lady on the internet. She is nothing if not sweet and evenly-disposed and mostly unflappable, but not always. She's human and has feelings, but she just gives them to her savior and it goes into the vault after that.

It is a quilt. You're a patch. I'm a patch. neebee's a patch. They don't always fit, like she says. But patience and love can overcome any old thing almost as well as water does. It just takes time and faith. It's a blessing this brouhaha came about. We can just go with the flow of the backwash.

I will pre-order six of your hiking guides right here and now, because anyone who tries to make it go in the deep woods, in the mountains, or over on the East Side, you all are brave to try to exist there, as has always been the case. But cities are poisonous. And they have terrible fishing, too.

Email me back and I'll confirm the order. What the hell happened to your hair?


Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jan 10, 2013 - 12:52pm PT
Chinchen + Neebee = two good guys.

Trollnet + Lifestress = temporary asshat sometimes.

I've done it myself.

Neebee is solid gold, and Chappy's sister.

Don't f*#k with Neebee.

Credit: survival

Trad climber
mt. hood /baja
Jan 10, 2013 - 01:27pm PT
Survival...quit postin my picture on the interweb...i'm
in my bathrobe...have you no shame
John M

Jan 10, 2013 - 01:35pm PT
so you are the decider of what is posted, and not of only what you post?

Nope... but he has a right to his opinion, and so do we.


Great come back Chinchen. Good luck with the new business.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jan 10, 2013 - 02:32pm PT
Well done Chinchen! Don't be hesitant to delete some other thread in the future, should you decide to. Its your privilege.


Somewhere out there
Jan 10, 2013 - 02:57pm PT
OP - Quote from another deleted post....

Classic story about a guy getting upset at the wrong target, or the target of his rage is not the one directly above him in the company...

It's an entire system that places the bottom line (the money) ahead of people (the people)... but that's another discussion all together getting into economic philosophies and such.

Fish Finder - nice catch!!!

Cheers all
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