t*r
Mountain climber
where the wild things are
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Jan 10, 2013 - 09:33am PT
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cosmic, thank you for finding such good use for a horrible old photo! lolz. man, i've really got to provide some more recent photos, i'm going to email you some, k?
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Cosmiccragsman
Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
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Jan 10, 2013 - 09:33am PT
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ok TR
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toadgas
Trad climber
los angeles
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Jan 10, 2013 - 11:15am PT
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tarantino never pandered to the film critics; he strictly follows his own vision
spielberg? yaaaaaaawn
though Django Unchained is on track for being his top grossing movie
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The user formerly known as stzzo
climber
Sneaking up behind you
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Jan 10, 2013 - 11:19am PT
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I would also like to know how folks feel about his using the n word in the script eleventy billion times. That and the whole movie felt like a huge insult to my intelligence and sense of humor.
Do Samuel Jackson and Jamie Fox strike you as weak white-wannabes who are hurtin for work so bad that they couldn't turn down a script & plot that insults their race?
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frank wyman
Mountain climber
helena montana
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Jan 10, 2013 - 11:20am PT
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Have not seen movie but It could not possibly be as good as "Operation Dumbo Drop"...
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toadgas
Trad climber
los angeles
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Jan 10, 2013 - 11:26am PT
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for the record, the word nigger is used 109 times in the film; imo, tarantino uses the word to drive home the fact that the institution of slavery relied on the perception that "niggers" were a sub-species of humans...
if that false perception failed ...then slavery itself would fail
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WBraun
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Jan 10, 2013 - 11:35am PT
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When I lived in Chicago as a kid we lived in a very poor neighborhood.
The school I went to was over 90% black.
Every other word we said was nigger this nigger that and it meant nothing since all my friends were black.
Only stupid Americans who never lived in such an environment cry about the word.
It's not the word itself but how it's used in it's context according to exact moment in time and circumstance.
Since most Americans are stupid (:-) they get all bent out of shape over this word and make this huge blanket generalization about it.
Go live in the ghetto and learn something stupid Americans ..... :-)
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Nobacon
climber
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Jan 10, 2013 - 11:51am PT
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Steve and I were at Alabama Hills when they were filming. Movie Flats Rd. was closed, but we like the climbing across the street just as well. Some climber guys that we met were climbing in Tall Wall area, and got bribed out of their shots by dinner in the gourmet food trailer. Missed out on that one! We did not see any movie stars.
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Nobacon
climber
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Jan 10, 2013 - 11:54am PT
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See? You knew it would get back to climbing...
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toadgas
Trad climber
los angeles
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Jan 10, 2013 - 11:57am PT
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^^^^^
yes! my hunch was that some of those scenes were AH w/ LPP in the back
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nah000
Mountain climber
canuckadia
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Jan 10, 2013 - 12:03pm PT
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interesting to see the range of responses to this movie.
i'm an admitted tarantino fan. that said my opinion is really based on only three movies: reservoir dogs, pulp fiction and jackie brown. the rest of his later oeuvre, feel, to me, mostly like an imitation of himself. the violence, the camp and the shock too often become ... boring.
django on the other hand was, imo, fantastic. it wasn't perfect. but if there ever was a place for over the top violence and language, a story set in the midst of a relatively recent legal structure allowing fellow humans to be treated like cattle, well, then, that would be it.
the fact that a white guy had the balls to tackle this subject matter and the only african-american person with any kind of public exposure denigrating the result is spike lee [whose opinion is based on not watching it - what a self important f*#king douche] is, well, surprising.
if there's one thing you can't argue about, regarding tarantino: he's got balls.
spoiler alert: one of the biggest kicks i got out of this movie was tarantino hopelessly trying to act and then blowing himself up. he may be full of himself, but he appears to have at least some self-awareness and a sense of humour regarding his own outsized ego.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jan 10, 2013 - 12:11pm PT
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Homage to spaghetti western?
Western?
Samuel L, and Jamie Foxx?
Tarantino?
Good enough for me.
I'll see it and enjoy every minute for what it is, a movie.
the fact that a white guy had the balls to tackle this subject matter and the only african-american person with any kind of public exposure denigrating the result is spike lee [whose opinion is based on not watching it - what a self important f*#king douche] is, well, surprising.
I feel the same by the way.
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tiki-jer
Trad climber
fresno/clovis
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Jan 10, 2013 - 01:02pm PT
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Hey Toad you are correct.....I posted a thread called 'Lone Pine in the Movies' a while back. Also some scenes were in Wyoming and Colorado I recall.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jan 10, 2013 - 01:06pm PT
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Spike is just mad because Quentin's bizarre entertainment has trumped Spike's deep meaningful stuff so many times.....
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Riley Wyna
Trad climber
A crack near you
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Jan 10, 2013 - 01:16pm PT
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Spike is ridiculous - he can't even finish a movie anymore.
Just saw it
This movie is brilliant, horrific, honest and funny.
But I guess some folks squirm a little when a light is shone to brightly on the truth.
SLJs best performance ever....
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Edge
Trad climber
New Durham, NH
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Jan 10, 2013 - 02:52pm PT
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I saw Django in Denver over the holidays. My 21 year old son and I watched it and enjoyed it for what it was, classic Tarantino.
My wife and daughter went next door and watched Les Mis; both movies had similar run times and show times... Coincidence? At least the dozen people in line in front of us split on similar lines.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jan 10, 2013 - 04:07pm PT
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Werner: When I lived in Chicago...
Now that finally explains a lot. And talk about unchained...
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jan 10, 2013 - 04:19pm PT
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It was entertaining and well done in a distorted sort of way, and perhaps a reasonable portrayal of the depths of slavery in the US. How representative it was may be another matter. US movies are frequently ahistorical, sometimes greatly so.
It seemed a stretch that the protagonists were a German dentist/bounty hunter, who teamed up with an escaped and recaptured slave on a somewhat quixotic quest. Not a likely scenario. The martial abilities of Schultz and Django also seemed a considerable stretch, with Django apparently able to use firearms of all kinds at all distances, and score a "kill" each time, but never be scratched by the numerous opponents. Not likely.
The fight scene in Pulp Fiction, where the punk empties a revolver at point blank range toward Travolta and Jackson, and misses, seemed a bit more like reality.
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Dapper Dan
Trad climber
Menlo Park
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Jan 10, 2013 - 04:40pm PT
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as for historical innacuricies...
Dynamite was patented in 1867 , the beginning of the film says they're in 1858 ...
Still loved it .
QT will get my $$$ again .
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