"Coated" ropes with silent partner

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briham89

Big Wall climber
san jose, ca
Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 5, 2013 - 12:02am PT
YES I'M GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!!!111661!!!

Now that we have that out of the way....

Does anyone have experience using a silent partner with either a Teflon coated rope like some Mammut ropes are using....or a Maxim glider with it's 1 over 1 sheath weave? They both claim (and seem to) make belaying smoother, so I'm wondering if this will have adverse effects with locking up a silent partner. Maybe I'm over thinking it, but I figured I would ask before buying a new rope....well what say you?
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 5, 2013 - 12:06am PT


Yep!!!...

"Yer GONNA die!!!"...



EDITED:

Now it's official...


briham89

Big Wall climber
san jose, ca
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 5, 2013 - 12:07am PT
hahaha thanks locker....with that title it needed to be said!!!
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Jan 5, 2013 - 12:08am PT
I don't think it would matter but I'd damn well check it out beforehand.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 5, 2013 - 12:09am PT


It's an interesting question and one I would also like to know an answer to...

Ihateplastic

Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
Jan 5, 2013 - 12:30am PT
I just posed it to the inventor... stand by.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 5, 2013 - 12:43am PT

"I just posed it to the inventor... stand by."...

COOL!!!...

briham89

Big Wall climber
san jose, ca
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 5, 2013 - 12:48am PT
Sweet...standing by.

And Mark I agree, the problem is I need to figure out which rope to buy based on this.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
Jan 5, 2013 - 01:01am PT
My nominal use makes me think that a smoother finish is better for paying out rope and will make a rope usable on an SP for longer. I've heard several anecdotes of users really wanting a clean sheath for using the SP. Me included.

If the clutch engages by yarding on it, that much of it will work.

If you're thinking of a low angle slab fall with slow speeds that's a risk with a brand new rope anyways too, no?

I'd like to hear from the man himself too though. :)

T H

Boulder climber
bouldering
Jan 5, 2013 - 01:36am PT
"Coated" ropes ...
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1689566/Wings-of-Steel-A-confession-ALL-with-an-olive-branch
Ihateplastic

Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
Jan 5, 2013 - 01:36am PT
As promised...

Mark Blanchard, the inventor, tester, and general smartest cookie in the pot when it comes to all things Silent Partner...

It should work ok with a smooth rope. The best thing to do it just try it. Put the rope on, give it a pull and see if it will cinch up.

Now I know that is not a full endorsement but I guess the trick is to take the SP into a store where they have your rope of choice and see what happens.

As with any belay setup... TEST, PRACTICE, BACK UP and treat words as nothing more than words.*

*In other words... this is not to be taken as legally binding advice.
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Jan 5, 2013 - 01:43am PT
If a clove hitch works with coated ropes then the silent partner should work
briham89

Big Wall climber
san jose, ca
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 5, 2013 - 01:45am PT
Lol biotch

Thanks ihp! I'm guilty of almost always buying ropes online, so testing out in store didn't cross my mind. I'm sure I'll get some funny looks at rei....
Ihateplastic

Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
Jan 5, 2013 - 01:48am PT
limpingcrab is correct.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Jan 5, 2013 - 01:56am PT
On my third NE / Maxim Glider 9.9mm for free lead rope-soloing. All three ropes have held falls with my Edelrid Eddy. Of course, that's not an SP though, so YMMV, but I suspect it will work just fine.
TrundleBum

Trad climber
Las Vegas
Jan 5, 2013 - 08:14am PT
I've never used a teflon coated rope, but I do have and occasionally use a Silent Partner...

Your prolly way over processing....
"limpingcrab' has already said most of what needs to be considered.

Do as Hudon says, go throw something (equivalent to body weight) out of tree or off a bridge.
Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Jan 5, 2013 - 09:38am PT
damn, first-world problems popping up all over for the new year.
Gunkie

Trad climber
East Coast US
Jan 5, 2013 - 10:25am PT
I found *slightly* fuzzy ropes worked best with the SP. I used a new 'dry' rope once and it back fed way too much. YMMV.
briham89

Big Wall climber
san jose, ca
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 5, 2013 - 04:37pm PT
Haha tony good call

Interesting gunkie, I think I'll end up getting a fancy new rope and go drop test them to see if there is any noticeable difference. As far as rope feeding I am pretty good about tying pieces off.
The user formerly known as stzzo

climber
Sneaking up behind you
Jan 5, 2013 - 04:47pm PT
Thanks dude. I sprayed my rope with TriFlow teflon lube, so looking forward to the drop test results.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 5, 2013 - 04:52pm PT


"I think I'll end up getting a fancy new rope and go drop test them to see if there is any noticeable difference"...

PLEASE post your results...
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