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slayton

Trad climber
Here and There
Jan 12, 2013 - 05:58pm PT
And then posting "unconfirmed gossip". Awesome.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 12, 2013 - 06:33pm PT
If you get beat up and your sh#t stolen when TRAVELING IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY, there is nobody to blame but yourself.

STAY THE FUK HOME if you don't know what you are getting into and can't deal with the consequences.
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Jan 12, 2013 - 06:42pm PT
[quote] [/quotAnd then posting "unconfirmed gossip". Awesome. e]


As opposed to the unconfirmed gossip that slandered an entire country and was used to collect 25000 dollars...lol
Yes - we should only be exposed to unconfirmed American accounts and narratives that fit well into your small wanker view of the world....

As far as the stupid bitch sister and hostilty- I will give ya that one..
John M

climber
Jan 12, 2013 - 06:48pm PT
Its not gossip if you are telling what happened to yourself. It may be a lie, but that is different from gossip.
Hankster

Social climber
Golden, CO
Jan 12, 2013 - 06:53pm PT
As far as the stupid bitch sister and hostilty- I will give ya that one..

Dangit man, ST is getting wierd..
John M

climber
Jan 12, 2013 - 06:56pm PT
Getting weird????? heh heh heh... More like beeeen weird. But yep.. the taco goes through stages where the angst seems to be heavy for awhile. Just like life. America is weird right now. Major angst. But then a recession will do that.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 12, 2013 - 06:58pm PT


"the taco goes through stages where the angst seems to be heavy for awhile"...



I THINK ST history will show that it occurs mostly during the WINTER months...

;-)


John M

climber
Jan 12, 2013 - 06:59pm PT
Or during elections.. haha..



wish that weren't so.



rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jan 12, 2013 - 07:07pm PT
America is suffering a lot of angst...... Stupid angst-ridden Americans....
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Jan 12, 2013 - 07:14pm PT
Yes, very angsty and weird to not believe a story that not one news wire in the world has picked up because of the ridiculousness of it and to feel contempt for people who would perpetrate fraud.


then again...who the f*#ks knows eh?
I must be an idiot for trying...

John M

climber
Jan 12, 2013 - 07:25pm PT
Riley.. some of what you wrote was over the top. You were tooled in Yosemite for drunk driving, yet you immediately attacked them for drinking and driving. You smelled a rat, but you went overboard in the way you questioned everything. I still say it was miscommunication that led to their beating.

Besides, my comment was not directed at you. So why take everything personally. eh..
Ian Westmoreland

climber
Jackson
Jan 12, 2013 - 07:52pm PT
Its also easy to get bad advice or misunderstand the advice or just have a bad day.

true enough man, true enough.

The sister is the one who wrote the report. She did not have hardly any of that type travel experience. She wrote the report directly after the trauma. She wrote it for the police which is why it includes the property values. They goofed when they cross posted it. OMG.. those sutpid arrogant beotches.

Well, if you want to call them that it is your opinion. Stupid arrogant beotches isn't what I would use but whatever.

Look bottom line, what would you say if somebody came and took a dump in your favorite climbing spot. Right there where you like to set up at. I am sure it would upset you and as a result you would get on a discussion forum where people were talking about who would and why they would take a dump there in the first friggin' place. And then perhaps you might then discuss how you and or the community at large might put a stop to people crapping where you like to climb. No!?

And hey the original story (police report/whatever) was posted on the Wolfrom's blog so Jennifer had to of had their approval to do that. What is wrong exactly with me pointing out it was a hasty decisions on their part to do that?

It all comes down to decisions (personal, family, friends, yours, mine, ect ect)...and the result of those decisions. Don't we call this responsibility for your own actions? That is, if your are responsible and make responsible decisions.

I agree with the advice above. One doesn't just need a travel guide in countries like Peru, one needs a media relations person.

Go public with a crazy story and have people you know (family/friends) make that viral on the internet and yes you may very well need a media advisor.

Cheers
John M

climber
Jan 12, 2013 - 07:55pm PT
Stupid arrogant beotches isn't what I would use but whatever.

that was sarcasm on my part because of the bashing they had gotten. I guess its true that sarcasm doesn't translate well on the internet.
Captain...or Skully

climber
Jan 12, 2013 - 08:03pm PT
Sarcasm represents another dimension. It cannot be adequately expressed by text. Innovation will be required.
Ian Westmoreland

climber
Jackson
Jan 12, 2013 - 08:09pm PT
Sarcasm represents another dimension. It cannot be adequately expressed by text. Innovation will be required.

Which is why I am sticking to the facts and information, then I base my opinion on these facts from a stand point of personal experience. After that I make up my mind what is truth based on everything plus a fair share of human logic tossed in. As a result it is not possible for me to read something, one thing, on the internet and believe it to be fact or the truth.

Cheers
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Jan 12, 2013 - 08:13pm PT
Ian Westmorland knows a little about fixing sprinklers, but not much else.
toadgas

Trad climber
los angeles
Jan 12, 2013 - 08:14pm PT
are these flakey US tourists and 30 shitheaded villagers really worth 817 posts?
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Jan 12, 2013 - 08:29pm PT
well, if some of the uber-posters let up, it would be far less

people should ask more questions and make less statements - no?
Ian Westmoreland

climber
Jackson
Jan 12, 2013 - 08:33pm PT
Ian Westmorland knows a little about fixing sprinklers, but not much else.

Indeed, man who hides behind an alias. I have nothing to hide or prove here.

I have said my piece, and from my own experience plus research have mostly made up my mind about the Wolfrom's story. I will leave you all to trolling, judging those with opinions or facts, and just having your chat.

Cheers

slayton

Trad climber
Here and There
Jan 12, 2013 - 11:37pm PT
mechrist:
If you get beat up and your sh#t stolen when TRAVELING IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY, there is nobody to blame but yourself.

STAY THE FUK HOME if you don't know what you are getting into and can't deal with the consequences.

A bit harsh I think. Regardless of how much one prepares, sh#t can go south in any number of ways just about anywhere one travels, even right here in the good ol' US of A. Aside from locking yourself in your home you're not in control of all circumstances you encounter. And even that has the potential to get all hinky circumstances depending.

Riley:
As opposed to the unconfirmed gossip that slandered an entire country and was used to collect 25000 dollars...lol
Yes - we should only be exposed to unconfirmed American accounts and narratives that fit well into your small wanker view of the world....

As John M pointed out, it's not gossip if you're telling what happened to yourself. You don't have to believe it, obviously, but it's not gossip. I'm not sure that it was directed at me but since you were replying to my statement I'll at least say that my world view is neither "small" nor "wanker"ish. In fact, my world view is large enough to accept that I neither understand nor know everything. I read the initial statement which is obviously one sided and understood then that, yes, these guys made some mistakes, both in judgment and action, that initiated their ordeal.

Riley:
As far as the stupid bitch sister and hostility- I will give ya that one..


Ok. So why the hostility? Why the rush to judgment? I understand and appreciate the need to make a quick analysis and judgment to act and move forward in life and death situations in your profession. But this isn't anywhere near the same situation. Your analysis isn't going to save anyone's life today here on the Supertaco so why the rush?

Instead of waiting for more information you (and others) start with your conjecture of DUI's and drug use or smuggling or any other asinine BS that fits your small world picture, going so far as to pasting comments and opinions from around the blogosphere, which in themselves are nothing but opinion and conjecture, to support your already biased views.

These three screwed up and got the piss beat out of them. One of them told the story which was since posted by a family member or friend online and went viral. Much money has been sent and some has been apparently withdrawn. Root canals. Dumb asses. Frauds. I say we lynch them.

toadgas:
are these flakey US tourists and 30 shitheaded villagers really worth 817 posts?


No. This has long since become more about the reactions/opinions of others engendered by "these flakey US tourists and 30 shitheaded villagers".
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