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Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Jan 4, 2013 - 12:04pm PT
We were drinking two beers between the three of us because it was my 30th birthday and we were celebrating


I mean they are only ignorant Indians right..
Why should the village care that strangers are parked on the road to their school and they are drinking and driving...right?
How dare they ask for ID!!!!!

Brandon - it was a joke - i have lots of friends in Reno...
Unfortunately Reno is represented on ST by some serious idiots as well..


Michelle

Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Jan 4, 2013 - 12:06pm PT
Riley backed down like a Peruvian tourist. Wow.
coz

Mountain climber
Northern surly
Jan 4, 2013 - 12:10pm PT
I traveled in many South American countries with almost zero problems, but I would never drive an expensive truck, loaded with gear and when asked by a local for my papers, refuse.

This just seems to me the hight of stupidity!

Racing out of control around a village, spraying pepper spray, also seems way out of control.

I'm sorry this happen to these people but not at all surprised.

It's almost embarrassing to call my self an American after reading crap like this, and more so to hear Americans blaming the problems on the locals.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jan 4, 2013 - 12:12pm PT
Man, wouldn't ol' Rokjox be preaching up a storm right now?

All about how to travel and be tough and back down the bad guy.
We had some epic pose downs from that guy.
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Jan 4, 2013 - 12:16pm PT
Can anyone verify this whole story? Just askin.... There would have to be plenty of relatives/friends back here who could easily do that...

It seems odd to me that she includes a laundry list (with retail/new prices) of everything that was stolen for her story.

If I, and my friends were attacked that savagely for no reason and injured to such an extent my main goal would become to get the Hell out of there, not to recoup $$ for my lost iThingy.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jan 4, 2013 - 12:17pm PT
It seems odd to me that she includes a laundry list (with retail/new prices) of everything that was stolen for her story.

You obviously have never lived with a 'Type A' woman.
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Jan 4, 2013 - 12:18pm PT
Because Riley believes everything he thinks? I'll leave him to his "witty" ad nauseum wind storm. Batten down the hatches! Jajajajajajaja!

I take that as a compliment from someone with no trip reports and a dozen pictures - not one pic of him actually "climbing" but a gun in almost everyone..
ya....you're a genius...lol

something tells me you ain't' traveling anywhere son..
yayayayaya
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Jan 4, 2013 - 12:20pm PT
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Jan 4, 2013 - 12:21pm PT
Wow, you really are whack, Riley. I have several TRs that are not labelled in the trip reports section (climb a lot of the same stuff you mention, actually), I'm in somebody else's TR of Darkstar, I post climbing photos fairly frequently (a lot more than a dozen photos, learn how to scroll dumb ass), and I don't even OWN a gun genius. I also notice you have at least one picture of a gun in your photos, you are clearly a gun nut by your typical logic. If you looked up the context of my "extensive collection" of gun photos you would see that I'm not a gun nut. But you're a prejudiced wind bag too busy to bother with the truth.

Take your meds, I know you have access ;). Yayayayayaya!!!
chill

climber
between the flat part and the blue wobbly thing
Jan 4, 2013 - 12:21pm PT
JLP said
Latin America = giant sh#t hole.
Not in my limited experience. I have met many great people in Mexico, Costa Rica and Peru. Not saying they aren't there, just haven't run across them. Worst I have been treated was some newspaper seller who didn't think my Spanish was good enough. He was surly to me. :(
prickle

Gym climber
globe,az
Jan 4, 2013 - 12:23pm PT
these are the risks one takes when traveling in wild and wonderful south america
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Jan 4, 2013 - 12:24pm PT
I assume they were trespassing and when told to leave, the people of the village didn't think they were leaving.
I didn't get that at all from the story, but I could see the possible expectation of some sort of overnight parking fee getting out of hand.

Spin it all however you want. There wasn't a problem until some Peruvians decided they wanted the American's money.

Asking for documents is simply the first step in extortion. You often end up buying them back for no real reason, even from the police and military. They were prudent to not give them up, but who knows what else happened.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jan 4, 2013 - 12:28pm PT
I've run into more than a few malditos in Central America with no ill affects. I've found that a smile, confidence, deference, an awareness of your surroundings, and a sharp look in your eye keeps you safe in most cases, even if your Spanish is mas o menos.

All that said, the party concerned had driven through Latin America for several months. I'm guessing that they had a good understanding of where they were and a decent handle on the language.

It seems like an extortion gone very wrong. Plain and simple.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jan 4, 2013 - 12:28pm PT
Hypocrites . Some go vacationing in countries that are in utter turmoil like most in South America, and Mexico- sipping the margaritas in touristaville while 30 miles away lie fifty fresh dead bodies from the latest cartel moves. Or some go "hiking" on a border of two countries at war then whine that your in the shyt. I have a friend that has a lot down on the beach -pacific side and even he is having difficulty going down there as bribe costs have risen dramatically. Yes he has to bribe his way through the various locales controlled by banditos most likely cartel wings.
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Jan 4, 2013 - 12:29pm PT
Wow, you really are whack, Riley. I have a TR not in the trip reports (climb a lot of the same stuff you mention), I'm in somebody else's TR, I post climbing photos fairly frequently (a lot more than a dozen photos, learn how to scroll dumb ass), and I don't even OWN a gun genius.

Take your meds, I know you have access ;). Yayayayayaya!!!

Sorry, I didnt get past the pic of your ugly mug drinking a beer and the first page of gun photos - in all honestly I really don't give a sh#t either..
Perhaps think about and consider what you would do if you found foreigners drinking and driving on a road that leads to your kids school - Then you can either apologize to me for your insults and admit your gullibility and poor judgement concerning this pathetic story or f*#k off...either way....i don't really care..

yayayayaya
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Jan 4, 2013 - 12:32pm PT
It seems odd to me that she includes a laundry list (with retail/new prices) of everything that was stolen for her story.

It's not odd at all if ya read about her other concerns

We have spent at least 10 12 hour each day in different medical clinics being examined since we were not brought to the correct medical facility in Cuzco immediately after the attack.


We are staying in an overpriced hotel that is supposed to give us breakfast, but has refused serving us each morning. With all of our time spent in more important areas we have had not time to look for a different place to stay.

She is busy making more friends and complaining about breakfast!
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Jan 4, 2013 - 12:32pm PT
Maybe I shouldn't have pulled up this thread as I'm in the San Francisco airport flying to Delhi.

Generalizations based on somebody's bad experience are often limited. During my time living in Yosemite, it's been one of the safest places from crime around and disease is far from a worry.

Yet around the times that poor gal was beheaded in Foresta, and lately after the headlines proclaimed Hanta Virus, people sent me messages as if I were living in Dante's inferno!

Yes there are Hells everywhere in each country.

One thing I don't buy much about any country, that there are neigborhood where everyone is accepting of mass beating and robbery for the sake of greed. That's unlikely.

But there are mass standards where people take mass offense. I'm told in India, if you accidentally hit somebody in your car, you better just get out of there because it's very possible the locals will beat you up as a matter of course.

Peace

karl
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Jan 4, 2013 - 12:32pm PT
You clearly don't care, Riley Whiner ;)!!!!

You argue that we don't know what happened and then that they were irresponsible Americans after school children. You'll squirm whichever way you can to make some point at all, no matter how pointless.

Speaking of ugly mugs... uh, you seen yourself? You like Loki on a bender.

Done with your prejudiced ass, chumpsky!
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jan 4, 2013 - 12:35pm PT
Hypocrites . Some go vacationing in countries that are in utter turmoil like most in South America, and Mexico- sipping the margaritas in touristaville while 30 miles away lie fifty fresh dead bodies from the latest cartel moves. Or some go "hiking" on a border of two countries at war then whine that your in the shyt. I have a friend that has a lot down on the beach -pacific side and even he is having difficulty going down there as bribe costs have risen dramatically. Yes he has to bribe his way through the various locales controlled by banditos most likely cartel wings.

Ron, when was the last time you were in Central or South America?

Or, are you just pretending to have a first hand knowledge of how things are 'down there'?

Armchair knowledge gets you nowhere other than deeper into your armchair.
WBraun

climber
Jan 4, 2013 - 12:36pm PT
When we were down in South America Bolivia, Columbia, Brazil and Peru it wasn't until we got into Peru that we started getting problems.

The fuking Peruvians were thieves and we constantly were getting ripped off.

We had to constantly guard and watch our stuff.

We needed body guards in one area with machine guns to protect us from the cocaine cartel.

Those cocaine cartel fukers blew up all the bridges in that area.

When we landed at the small air strip we had to have military protection there also.

They will kill Americans in certain areas of Peru because the Americans were eradicating their drug fields with their "War on Drugs" program.

They hate Americans in certain areas, so beware.

Cuzco is relatively safe but outside the city you have to be careful of thieves, robbers and general fuk heads everywhere.
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