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patrick compton

Trad climber
van
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 7, 2013 - 11:52am PT
OP - can you shed some light on how the public funds are being spent?


I have no interest in casting judgement I just would like some accountability


For all I know its going to hookers and blow, you know?

Last i heard, everyone on Supertopo will get a brand-new lime-green nano puff and a kitten. Just don't wear the Puff to Peru or 'you will be asking for it'. Just one glance at it's recycled, florescent perfection turns Peruvians in flesh-eating Zombies with whips.
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Jan 7, 2013 - 11:54am PT
climbers were whipped. Whipped.

Howdy Patrick, so says you, and of course the three travelers. I am not necessarily saying they were not, or that they were. But some proof would go a long ways.

And are they real bona fide climbers? I mean, aside from hiking up some peaks. I suppose we may have different definitions of what makes a climber.

And yes, somebody who is new to the forum starting the post doesn't really, in my eyes at least, say a lot.

I suppose you had your reason(s) for starting this thread and I can only hope it was an honorable reason.

And come on dude...

Opinions are like a$$holes... everyone on here has one.

Couldn't you come up with something more original?


EDIT

And why no climbing items in their list. Earlier on the thread somebody said why would villagers need climbing gear. Well, if they were setting out to rob these three, I'd think they would grab as much stuff as they could, climbing gear included. But again, I could be wrong.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Jan 7, 2013 - 11:55am PT
Hahahaha... You're gonna chap some hides, PC, but I'm enjoying it.
patrick compton

Trad climber
van
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 7, 2013 - 11:56am PT
If Jeremy A had posted it, it would be goldplated sticky.


What the hell does Jeremy have to do with this Patrick?
There went your cred with me.

absolutely nothing other than it is the only other thread i've psoted on and i had my post yanked. people love him and take whatever vile things he writes as law, but a new guy posts up a story copied from multiple sources on the web and somehow my motivations are under suspicion.

sorry i lost cred with you, I'll give you my nano puff.
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Jan 7, 2013 - 11:58am PT
OP - can you shed some light on how the public funds are being spent?

OMG, you classless f*#ks - STFU already.

This is private money between the giver and receiver and it's absolutely none of your f*#king business what happens to it.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 7, 2013 - 11:59am PT
ok so I assume then that you have no idea either. Thats fine.


So here's the deal like it or lump it. No one has had the guts or honor to state what funds that are directly solicted from the public are being used for. If it is for Hookers and blow then state it and those who would like to contribute to that are free to do so. Then at least there is a public record of the intent and if they fail to use it for the intended purpose they would have to explain why instead it went to oh I don't know, Disneyland and Mitt Romneys next campaign or something.

I might have contributed if I had a reasonable idea of what it was used for.

I would only add that without accountability the only reasonable default position is to assume a Nigerian swindle or Hookers and Blow..... or 5000$ lap tops.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Jan 7, 2013 - 12:02pm PT
Why don't you just spend your own money on what you seem so fixated on, Bruce? Snorting a toot while getting your joint worked on by a gal named Trixie might just sort you out ;). Certainly more productive than anything posted here.
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Jan 7, 2013 - 12:03pm PT
This whole thread has the makings of a TV sitcom or soap opera. I wonder what character I would be cast as?

Dufus in the corner wearing a cone hat. Okay, I'll take it. What's the pay?
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 7, 2013 - 12:04pm PT
Good point Jebus. It just so happen I do in fact know a lady named Trixie. I'll call her up right now
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jan 7, 2013 - 12:04pm PT
John Long



Layton Kor



Pat Ament



Tom Gilje




Real climbers,, real troubles,, right here in our real country..


Crap on anonymous collecting for Ipads.




JLP

Social climber
The internet
Jan 7, 2013 - 12:06pm PT
I might have contributed if I had a reasonable idea of what it was used for.
I'm sure with your generous donation they could go buy a band-aid and a cracker. If you want to set conditions, that's between you and them. It would make you sound like a classless stingy controlling f*#k, though.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Reno, Nuh VAAAA duh
Jan 7, 2013 - 12:06pm PT
Good point Jebus. It just so happen I do in fact know a lady named Trixie. I'll call her up right now


I'm proud of you, Bruce! Job Creator, that's what we'll call you.
Vegasclimber

Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
Jan 7, 2013 - 12:08pm PT
Uhhhh....I'm confused.

Was this a solicitation for monetary help? Because I never saw a post with any kind of contact information, regardless of the thread title. Perhaps I missed it in all the name calling and such.

Was it a post to warn people about traveling in Peru? If that's the case then it seems to have been blown way out of proportion.

When this thread first hit, I didn't see anything in it that was worth 500+ posts of discussion. Seems kinda lame to me, IMO. Would rather see more posts about climbing then yet another thread with people screaming at each other over the internet. Looks like it's yet another ST round-robin bitch-fest with zero chance of any resolution or conclusion. Shame.
Fish Finder

Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
Jan 7, 2013 - 12:08pm PT



TFPU Patrick C


if it wasnt you it would of been someone else.

Way to join the Fray!

Quite after the first post for some time then "BOOM" lays the hammer down with great humor.

Fish Finder

Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
Jan 7, 2013 - 12:10pm PT


"I didn't see anything in it that was worth 500+ posts of discussion. Seems kinda lame to me, "



yet here you are.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 7, 2013 - 12:15pm PT
Real climbers are checking out the FA of El Pilar del Sol Naciente.
Dick Erb

climber
June Lake, CA
Jan 7, 2013 - 12:16pm PT
Here is a magazine article about their rig and some notes from the first four thousand miles of their journey.

http://www.truckcampermagazine.com/off-road-expeditions/meg-and-jed-wolfrom-adventure-americas
Fish Finder

Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
Jan 7, 2013 - 12:20pm PT
maybe she should of listened or knott to her own advice


From the link above ( a feature article before the incident)

TCM: What would you say to someone who was fascinated by your trip through Central and South America and considering such a trip?

Meg: Donít be scared. The media in the United States fills us with these negative thoughts and ideas about the countries south of the border. Sure, they have their bad areas and thugs, but so does the United States. I have been more scared riding a subway in Los Angeles than I have ever been traveling in a foreign country.

Donít stay somewhere you donít feel safe, donít flash valuables or money around, and donít do drugs as that means you having interactions with people who sell drugs, Just use your common sense in general and you will be fine. It is my belief and experience that people are primarily good.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jan 7, 2013 - 12:28pm PT
people love him and take whatever vile things he writes as law, but a new guy posts up a story copied from multiple sources on the web and somehow my motivations are under suspicion.

You're making a lot of assumptions there man.

Keep the nano puff. I couldn't wear something called a nano puff.

What in the heck did you say to get an individual post pulled? Must've been rich for a new guy. If Jeremy's posts are vile and they don't get pulled, yet one of your first ever posts gets pulled, what does that make it?

How about a thread on your climbing exploits before you jump right into the nasty stuff?
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 7, 2013 - 12:30pm PT
It would make you sound like a classless stingy controlling f*#k, though.


Well just think about this for a second. All I request is a clear indication of what the money will be used for. I'm not sure that that really fits the definition of control freak but even if it is thats my perrogative.

On the other hand, someone at the other end is most certainly controlling the level of information and it seems to be resulting in an absence of information. The simple solution is to provide information.

In that absence, one has to wonder why? Its not paranoia or even a lack of empathy. I and I assume most would just like to see our donations go to a cause that we think is right. this isn't rocket science. Whenever money exchanges hands there needs to be clear accountability and transparency.

I think this is really fascinating. This is the only real issue yet no one wants to address it.

If this was to be cleared up, all else is moot. These guys got f*#ked up and they need help .... but to do what? fly home? score hookers and blow? Buy a new truck?

no one knows but hey I guess thats just what makes our economy roll huh?


lets put it this way..... ever wonder where all your money went in Iraq? That was a good cause.... wasn't it?
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