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moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Jan 3, 2013 - 04:45pm PT
Mechrist, don't tell my wife!
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Jan 3, 2013 - 04:49pm PT
I'd say get yourself a copy of this book+dvd:



Pretty well done. The best all-in-one gathering of sport climbing practices and tactics for working/redpointing routes that I've seen.

10b4me

Boulder climber
Somewhere on 395
Jan 3, 2013 - 04:50pm PT
Isn't "sport climbing is neither" a circa 1984 Vermism?

actually, I think you can attribute that remark to one Jim Bridwell.

Bridwell also opined that sport climbing was like a one night stand. Lots of fun, but no commitment.


I like sport climbing. at my age, I am becoming more risk averse
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 3, 2013 - 04:59pm PT


"I assume based on the thread they are sport climbs. Or bolted trad lines..."...

VIRGIN rock...



Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 3, 2013 - 05:16pm PT
Reed, in all honesty, don't limit yourself to craggin. Find yourself a trad partner who has a rack, and follow him/her up as many routes as you can. Learning to clean gear, is the best way to learn how to place it.

Once you can follow trad lines, go back and try and lead those same routes. You will have the benefit of knowing where the rests are, and will gain valuable insight into all-around climbing.

"Sport" climbing will help get you fit.....trad climbing will help get you smart.....and keep you humble.

:)
bhilden

Trad climber
Mountain View, CA
Jan 3, 2013 - 05:22pm PT
The quote "Sport Climbing is neither" comes from Mark Wilford who also had some bumper stickers made up with the same quote.
dave

climber
Earth
Jan 3, 2013 - 06:30pm PT
Cragging can be any type of climbing where you go up and lower off, and repeat, ad nauseum.

Sport climbing is where one clips bolts, relatively closely spaced, as to try and make it safe enough so that one need focus mostly on the moves.

Only trad climbing, while too much fun, unless you are naturally gifted, will only lead to small gains in difficulty although the adventures you will have will be off the charts compared to 'sport cragging'.

Sport climbing/ cragging will not only keep you fit, but you will get strong, and then you can apply that strength and experience whipping to climbing easier hard trad climbs. You will be so strong that you will be less scared to do difficult moves above your gear on those easier hard trad climbs.

Other athletes would call this 'cross training', both are rewarding in their own rite and benefit each other.

Bouldering is the basis for difficult climbing of any type.

A climber would climb any thing, any style, any day!

Have fun CLIMBING!


locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 3, 2013 - 11:09pm PT

Totally DIG this one and AGREE!!!...(especially the last line)



"Sport climbing/ cragging will not only keep you fit, but you will get strong, and then you can apply that strength and experience whipping to climbing easier hard trad climbs. You will be so strong that you will be less scared to do difficult moves above your gear on those easier hard trad climbs.

Other athletes would call this 'cross training', both are rewarding in their own rite and benefit each other.

Bouldering is the basis for difficult climbing of any type.

A climber would climb any thing, any style, any day!"
...




It's ALL cool as fuk...

Butch

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe
Jan 3, 2013 - 11:43pm PT
LOL... you guys are funny. Was it Confucius who said "If one want's to make sport climbing more sporty .. one should put up sport climbs with the implicit intent that "for whom all that follow" ...he he he.. bring your own hangers" ...
But then again ... I can't talk .. I can't even climb anymore.
Scole

Trad climber
Joshua Tree
Jan 4, 2013 - 07:02am PT
Sport climbing is easy to learn. Just grab the quickdraw, pull up on the rope, then repeat. After a 100 or so tries you might actually try to climb the route with the gear pre-clipped.

Sport climbing is a great training tool, but should not be confused with climbing
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 4, 2013 - 07:06am PT
^Scole nails it.
can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
Jan 4, 2013 - 07:21am PT
Both John Long and Lynn Hill got injured sport climbing. Heck they both could have died. Sport climbing breeds complacency under the guise of it being low risk.
Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
Jan 4, 2013 - 07:25am PT
Naysayers!
**
SPORT CLIMBING IS FUN!**

Pushing your limits "sport" climbing (or bouldering)will improve your "trad" climbing abilities. Period.
The reverse is also true.

Frankly, I think many on here are limiting themselves by being naysayers.
"I don't sport climb"
"I don't trad climb"
"I don't climb indoors"
"I don't climb outdoors"
"Aid climbing is not real climbing"
"I only aid climb"
"Bouldering is stupid"
"Toproping is stupid"

WTF!

Get over yourselves and your categories already. I'm sick of this anti-everything BS.

Become a well rounded climber. If you pursue bouldering and sport climbing diligently, I guarantee you will bump trad climbing abilities to the next level. You will be stronger, more confident, your movement will be more efficient, you will start to see options you would not have recognized before. And, again, it works both ways. Seems like it should be obvious.



Rhodo-Router

Gym climber
sawatch choss
Jan 4, 2013 - 09:22am PT
"The way I learned is the only way for everyone, anywhere, ever. Hip belays, 50m ropes, four scrounged hexes, blahbaddy f*#king blah.........

kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Jan 4, 2013 - 09:39am PT
Sport climbing probably does suck if you climb 5.9
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Jan 4, 2013 - 09:54am PT
I am with Reeotch on this. Don't understand why the hate for sport climbing. Personally, I went sport climbing only about 6 times in my life. But I went for the pure joy of movement over rock. Did get challenged, and did experience fear just like I would if I was trad climbing. It does not have to be a nut or a piton from 1956 40 ft bellow you to enjoy moving over rock.

This elitist attitude usually comes from insecure people who want to think the way they do things is better way than others do things. Small peepee syndrome. Remember, climbing is a personal way of self expression. If your way is sport climbing, than enjoy it and don't mind all the haters.
Jeremy Ross

Gym climber
Jan 4, 2013 - 09:58am PT
+1 for Reeotch, Kenny, Rhodo, Vitaly.


I love it all.



-JR



PS Most pure "trad" climbers I know cite a lack of boldness in sport climbing but then are too afraid to fall on their placed gear and/or are climbing something they would have to be in a coma to fall on. No reason to wear just one hat, it's all good.

The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Jan 4, 2013 - 10:07am PT
All the best "Tard" climbers are "Spurt" climbers.
dave

climber
Earth
Jan 4, 2013 - 10:20am PT
I was fixing lines on New Dawn a few years ago and T. Caldwell was working on Mescalito start (not really working on), heading up to his high point.

While we watched TC literally hike that first .12b pitch clipping heads and climbing it like I do 5.8, my buddy asked him how he trained for climbing hard el Cap routes, he responded "I just sport climb and boulder", pretty much says it all!
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Jan 4, 2013 - 10:21am PT
PS Most pure "trad" climbers I know cite a lack of boldness in sport climbing but then are too afraid to fall on their placed gear and/or are climbing something they would have to be in a coma to fall on. No reason to wear just one hat, it's all good.

Very sad but true. People think trad is so bold or free soloing is so bold. But they do not usually free solo anything at LEAST 2-3 levels bellow their OS level. Trad climbing and sport climbing is not suicidal. Trad is usually where you can place gear every 3 feet if you are crack climbing. I have seen 'trad climbers' of all levels ZIP up their climbs with gear every 4 feet when it gets hard for them.

The only type of climbing I think is boldER than other kinds is climbing difficult lines on remote high peaks with serious risks to get killed by weather or objective danger. Climbing where there is no help. And you won't climb 5.12 there usually. Aside from that, sport cragging in owens or trad cragging in yosemite are not much different.
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