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Reed101

Trad climber
CA
Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 3, 2013 - 02:47pm PT
Does anyone know of any good books or videos to watch for an aspiring sport climber.
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 3, 2013 - 02:48pm PT
Sport climbing....is neither.
WyoRockMan

Trad climber
Flank of the Bighorns
Jan 3, 2013 - 02:49pm PT
http://www.splitterchoss.com/2012/07/18/the-sport-climbers-guide-to-trad-climbing/
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 3, 2013 - 02:50pm PT
"Sport climbing....is neither."...

What a seriously STUPID saying...



Nothing personal Cragman...

Just a big time, elitist prick attitude...

LOL!!!...

;-)



ruppell

climber
Jan 3, 2013 - 02:50pm PT
Credit: ruppell
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jan 3, 2013 - 02:51pm PT
SUTPID.
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Jan 3, 2013 - 02:51pm PT
Yer








Gunna










DIE!
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 3, 2013 - 02:52pm PT


^^^

+1 on "Sutpid"...

Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 3, 2013 - 02:58pm PT
Whatever, Locker...entitled to my opinion.

Doesn't your picture belong over on that boob thread?

Just sayin...
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:00pm PT
There's a DVD that most here will hate on by Chris Lindner called Sport Climbing 101 - really informative from techniques of those 'in-the-know' - however you should already be an expert in what techniques are safe and which are not, because some things he does are a bit... well... not BSA-approved.

Sport climbing, bouldering, trad, alpine, ice, it's all climbing it is all good! If someone wants to talk about any kind of climbing it doesn't matter what my opinion is, it is weak to hate on it :) let others enjoy it!
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:02pm PT
what's wrong with sport climbing?
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:03pm PT
Isn't "sport climbing is neither" a circa 1984 Vermism?

Cragman, don't you have a dinky little sport climbing... sorry, TRing... set up in your living room? Is sport climbing is neither, what is TR's in your living room?
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:03pm PT
It's just that term....'sport climbing'.....seems so nonsensical to me.

We've always just called that stuff...."craggin".
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:03pm PT
what's wrong with sport climbing

I learned to climb via sport climbing.

Nothing wrong with it.
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:05pm PT
Hardmen don't sport climb, Kenny. You didn't know?
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:06pm PT
I see... definitely don't want to start differentiating between different aspects of the "same" activity. It would be as silly as differentiating between jogging around the block and running a marathon... it's all just running. I'll be back, I'm going to RUN get another cup of coffee.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:08pm PT



"Doesn't your picture belong over on that boob thread?"...

Crags...

Do me a favor and head to your post office, get a copy of my shot off the wall, and post it for me...

THANKS!!!...
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:09pm PT
Locker, you mean the one that simply says, "Bewildered" over the photo?

:)
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:13pm PT

Cragman...

NOT that one!!!...

The one that say's, "IDIOT" above it...

;-)





EDITED:

I actually have sort of avoided posting much of anything to the "Boob" thread...

I don't have the best impulse control and the possibility of me posting another potential BOOTABLE from ST shot looms over my head constantly...

LOL!!!...
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:17pm PT
Locker, we only have one picture in our Post Office with that description above the photo....and the pic is of RJ.

:)
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:18pm PT
Moose, you and I went sport climbing. am I missing something?
Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:18pm PT
Sport climbing is fun!
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:20pm PT

"Locker, we only have one picture in our Post Office with that description above the photo....and the pic is of RJ."...


They must have graduted me to, "STUPID"...

Check that category next time you go by...





Reed101

Trad climber
CA
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 3, 2013 - 03:21pm PT
People I don't have enough money to buy 300$ worth of cams 80$ worth of nuts etc. I do have enough to buy 10ish quick draws, and yes I do want to learn how to trad climb too, but for now i'm asking about sport climbing so please just answer the question without starting a fight.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:22pm PT


Uh...

This is SUPER TOPO...

NOT!!! RC.n00b...


kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:22pm PT
Sorry Reed it always ends with tears.

EDIT: If you want to pick up climbing chicks you will at least need some nuts.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:25pm PT

"Does anyone know of any good books or videos to watch for an aspiring sport climber."...

YOUTUBE has a TON of climbing videos for FREE...

But fuk WATCHING vidoes...

Just get the hell out there and fuking CLIMB!!!...

;-)



EDITED:

Go make your OWN videos of YOU, "Sport climbing"...

Then post those videos HERE along with a TR...

Circle, COMPLETED!!!...



Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:28pm PT
Pick up John Long's How to Rock Climb and Freedom of the Hills, by Mountaineers Press.

Read them both at least two times and take it from there.

Be safe, and have fun.

Also, practice knots at home. Over and over.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:30pm PT


PS...

"Sport climbing, is NEITHER!!!"...



and now my own circle is COMPLETED!!!...

;-)

Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:31pm PT
^What Brandon said.
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:32pm PT
I know Kenny, joking. I don't care how I climb a rock. It is always fun!
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:33pm PT
And cue the old saying......climbing in general is just like sex....once you get past the smell....you've got it licked.

:)
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:36pm PT
Cragman that is just wrong. And Moose I know you were kidding those are stout sport climbs out there in m-ville huh?
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:39pm PT
C'mon, kennyt, laugh a little....it IS the best medicine!
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:40pm PT
I was laughing!I didn't say it wasn't funny
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:45pm PT
I love sport climbing....wouldn't road trip for it, but, if it's in the neighborhood, i jump all over it.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:45pm PT
Climbing is way better than sex. You can climb all day, but sex only lasts 3-4 hours.
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:47pm PT
Kenny, your crag is though. Since I can't improve my technique, I am going to ware kevlar gloves next time.

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Missing photo ID#282043
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:48pm PT
Mechrist, you meant 3-4 minutes, right?
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:51pm PT
I hope his buddies from AZ. don't start postin those photos!
Reed101

Social climber
CA
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 3, 2013 - 03:53pm PT
Kenny, don't worry i have a pair, I only have two problems I'd need a very large crack (don't know of any near me) to anchor them and I'd prefer not hang off of them, might hurt a little bit.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:54pm PT
"Mechrist, you meant 3-4 minutes, right?"...




I'm thinking more along the lines of 3-4 SECONDS...

...

But like a MACHINE GUN on RAPID FIRE!!!...

Capt.

climber
some eastside hovel
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:56pm PT
Never clipped a bolt my first four years climbing.Pulling gear/placing gear,that was it.Started clippin' about my fifth year.Almost got killed sport climbing about twenty years later.Stupid,stupid mistake!Got complacent.It's all inherently dangerous when on vertical terrain.I think a solid mentor is about the best thing you can do.Main thing:Don't get complacent.
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 3, 2013 - 04:00pm PT
Yo Locker...a dude your age must be sportin' petrified wood, eh?

:)
DanaB

climber
CT
Jan 3, 2013 - 04:01pm PT
Andrew Bisharat (? sp) wrote a book about sport climbing. I have seen it and it has everything you need. Good luck.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 3, 2013 - 04:06pm PT


"Yo Locker...a dude your age must be sportin' petrified wood, eh?"...

All I'm sporting lately is a small box of raisins and a peanut...
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Jan 3, 2013 - 04:08pm PT
Locker, just looking at that picture it was a 10 sec intercourse for me.

Edit: Good post Reed. hehehe
Prod

Trad climber
Jan 3, 2013 - 04:09pm PT
I don't have the best impulse control

Well Locker, the hardest part is admitting it...

Prod.

PS. WTFAMS
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 3, 2013 - 04:10pm PT
Kenny, don't worry i have a pair, I only have two problems I'd need a very large crack (don't know of any near me) to anchor them and I'd prefer not hang off of them, might hurt a little


Reed, this seems like a VERY funny post...considering the hijacking we have given your thread.

Sorry.

Sort of.

:)
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Jan 3, 2013 - 04:10pm PT
Reed is a good sport.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 3, 2013 - 04:11pm PT


"WTFAMS"...

GREAT route name!!!...

LOL!!!...







Answer:

I really didn't lose them...

I fuking threw them away...

Reed101

Gym climber
CA
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 3, 2013 - 04:17pm PT
its okay guys have your fun.
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 3, 2013 - 04:17pm PT


Reed...

here's one...

...

Prod

Trad climber
Jan 3, 2013 - 04:17pm PT
This spring we ought to get together and put that route up.

Barefooted.

Prod.
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Jan 3, 2013 - 04:23pm PT
I would start with this:

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Missing photo ID#282065
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 3, 2013 - 04:25pm PT
"This spring we ought to get together and put that route up."...

I agree!!!...

I have a bunch of stuff I had eyeballed in the South Platte that no doubt remain untouched...

and I am pretty sure this season I will be healthy enough to pull it off...

Let's do it!!!...

Fuk YEAH!!!...



EDITED:

a bit of a hike...

But not real bad...

Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jan 3, 2013 - 04:29pm PT
I hope the OP has a thick skin and a good sense of humor. I'd be stoked if he or she checked in and let us know how it's going. Start a thread and you'll get good answers, mostly. Some people will give you sh#t, but it's easy to separate the wheat from the chaff.
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Jan 3, 2013 - 04:41pm PT
Brandon, whom are you calling wheat?
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 3, 2013 - 04:41pm PT
HOURS!
Prod

Trad climber
Jan 3, 2013 - 04:43pm PT
EDITED:

a bit of a hike...

But not real bad...

I'm in.

I assume based on the thread they are sport climbs. Or bolted trad lines...

Prod.
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Jan 3, 2013 - 04:45pm PT
Mechrist, don't tell my wife!
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Jan 3, 2013 - 04:49pm PT
I'd say get yourself a copy of this book+dvd:



Pretty well done. The best all-in-one gathering of sport climbing practices and tactics for working/redpointing routes that I've seen.

10b4me

Boulder climber
Somewhere on 395
Jan 3, 2013 - 04:50pm PT
Isn't "sport climbing is neither" a circa 1984 Vermism?

actually, I think you can attribute that remark to one Jim Bridwell.

Bridwell also opined that sport climbing was like a one night stand. Lots of fun, but no commitment.


I like sport climbing. at my age, I am becoming more risk averse
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 3, 2013 - 04:59pm PT


"I assume based on the thread they are sport climbs. Or bolted trad lines..."...

VIRGIN rock...



Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 3, 2013 - 05:16pm PT
Reed, in all honesty, don't limit yourself to craggin. Find yourself a trad partner who has a rack, and follow him/her up as many routes as you can. Learning to clean gear, is the best way to learn how to place it.

Once you can follow trad lines, go back and try and lead those same routes. You will have the benefit of knowing where the rests are, and will gain valuable insight into all-around climbing.

"Sport" climbing will help get you fit.....trad climbing will help get you smart.....and keep you humble.

:)
bhilden

Trad climber
Mountain View, CA
Jan 3, 2013 - 05:22pm PT
The quote "Sport Climbing is neither" comes from Mark Wilford who also had some bumper stickers made up with the same quote.
dave

climber
Earth
Jan 3, 2013 - 06:30pm PT
Cragging can be any type of climbing where you go up and lower off, and repeat, ad nauseum.

Sport climbing is where one clips bolts, relatively closely spaced, as to try and make it safe enough so that one need focus mostly on the moves.

Only trad climbing, while too much fun, unless you are naturally gifted, will only lead to small gains in difficulty although the adventures you will have will be off the charts compared to 'sport cragging'.

Sport climbing/ cragging will not only keep you fit, but you will get strong, and then you can apply that strength and experience whipping to climbing easier hard trad climbs. You will be so strong that you will be less scared to do difficult moves above your gear on those easier hard trad climbs.

Other athletes would call this 'cross training', both are rewarding in their own rite and benefit each other.

Bouldering is the basis for difficult climbing of any type.

A climber would climb any thing, any style, any day!

Have fun CLIMBING!


locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 3, 2013 - 11:09pm PT

Totally DIG this one and AGREE!!!...(especially the last line)



"Sport climbing/ cragging will not only keep you fit, but you will get strong, and then you can apply that strength and experience whipping to climbing easier hard trad climbs. You will be so strong that you will be less scared to do difficult moves above your gear on those easier hard trad climbs.

Other athletes would call this 'cross training', both are rewarding in their own rite and benefit each other.

Bouldering is the basis for difficult climbing of any type.

A climber would climb any thing, any style, any day!"
...




It's ALL cool as fuk...

Butch

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe
Jan 3, 2013 - 11:43pm PT
LOL... you guys are funny. Was it Confucius who said "If one want's to make sport climbing more sporty .. one should put up sport climbs with the implicit intent that "for whom all that follow" ...he he he.. bring your own hangers" ...
But then again ... I can't talk .. I can't even climb anymore.
Scole

Trad climber
Joshua Tree
Jan 4, 2013 - 07:02am PT
Sport climbing is easy to learn. Just grab the quickdraw, pull up on the rope, then repeat. After a 100 or so tries you might actually try to climb the route with the gear pre-clipped.

Sport climbing is a great training tool, but should not be confused with climbing
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 4, 2013 - 07:06am PT
^Scole nails it.
can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
Jan 4, 2013 - 07:21am PT
Both John Long and Lynn Hill got injured sport climbing. Heck they both could have died. Sport climbing breeds complacency under the guise of it being low risk.
Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
Jan 4, 2013 - 07:25am PT
Naysayers!
**
SPORT CLIMBING IS FUN!**

Pushing your limits "sport" climbing (or bouldering)will improve your "trad" climbing abilities. Period.
The reverse is also true.

Frankly, I think many on here are limiting themselves by being naysayers.
"I don't sport climb"
"I don't trad climb"
"I don't climb indoors"
"I don't climb outdoors"
"Aid climbing is not real climbing"
"I only aid climb"
"Bouldering is stupid"
"Toproping is stupid"

WTF!

Get over yourselves and your categories already. I'm sick of this anti-everything BS.

Become a well rounded climber. If you pursue bouldering and sport climbing diligently, I guarantee you will bump trad climbing abilities to the next level. You will be stronger, more confident, your movement will be more efficient, you will start to see options you would not have recognized before. And, again, it works both ways. Seems like it should be obvious.



Rhodo-Router

Gym climber
sawatch choss
Jan 4, 2013 - 09:22am PT
"The way I learned is the only way for everyone, anywhere, ever. Hip belays, 50m ropes, four scrounged hexes, blahbaddy f*#king blah.........

kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Jan 4, 2013 - 09:39am PT
Sport climbing probably does suck if you climb 5.9
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Jan 4, 2013 - 09:54am PT
I am with Reeotch on this. Don't understand why the hate for sport climbing. Personally, I went sport climbing only about 6 times in my life. But I went for the pure joy of movement over rock. Did get challenged, and did experience fear just like I would if I was trad climbing. It does not have to be a nut or a piton from 1956 40 ft bellow you to enjoy moving over rock.

This elitist attitude usually comes from insecure people who want to think the way they do things is better way than others do things. Small peepee syndrome. Remember, climbing is a personal way of self expression. If your way is sport climbing, than enjoy it and don't mind all the haters.
Jeremy Ross

Gym climber
Jan 4, 2013 - 09:58am PT
+1 for Reeotch, Kenny, Rhodo, Vitaly.


I love it all.



-JR



PS Most pure "trad" climbers I know cite a lack of boldness in sport climbing but then are too afraid to fall on their placed gear and/or are climbing something they would have to be in a coma to fall on. No reason to wear just one hat, it's all good.

The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Jan 4, 2013 - 10:07am PT
All the best "Tard" climbers are "Spurt" climbers.
dave

climber
Earth
Jan 4, 2013 - 10:20am PT
I was fixing lines on New Dawn a few years ago and T. Caldwell was working on Mescalito start (not really working on), heading up to his high point.

While we watched TC literally hike that first .12b pitch clipping heads and climbing it like I do 5.8, my buddy asked him how he trained for climbing hard el Cap routes, he responded "I just sport climb and boulder", pretty much says it all!
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Jan 4, 2013 - 10:21am PT
PS Most pure "trad" climbers I know cite a lack of boldness in sport climbing but then are too afraid to fall on their placed gear and/or are climbing something they would have to be in a coma to fall on. No reason to wear just one hat, it's all good.

Very sad but true. People think trad is so bold or free soloing is so bold. But they do not usually free solo anything at LEAST 2-3 levels bellow their OS level. Trad climbing and sport climbing is not suicidal. Trad is usually where you can place gear every 3 feet if you are crack climbing. I have seen 'trad climbers' of all levels ZIP up their climbs with gear every 4 feet when it gets hard for them.

The only type of climbing I think is boldER than other kinds is climbing difficult lines on remote high peaks with serious risks to get killed by weather or objective danger. Climbing where there is no help. And you won't climb 5.12 there usually. Aside from that, sport cragging in owens or trad cragging in yosemite are not much different.
Rhodo-Router

Gym climber
sawatch choss
Jan 4, 2013 - 10:26am PT
"Yeah but... swami, smearing, BITD, sputter, sputter..."
ruppell

climber
Jan 4, 2013 - 10:48am PT
I used to be an elitist prick. I learned how to climb in the Gunks. As traditional as it gets. The only bolts I ever clipped where the ones on climbs there and they are few and far between. I finally reached the level of being able to onsight 5.10 there. Then I decided it was time to take a road trip. You guys who have sold everything you own and put the rest in your buddies garage know the trip I'm talking about. Then I made the list. You know THE list. Every major trad area in the US. Then what climbs your gonna do their. The test pieces. The climbs that get your buddies to buy you some beers if you manage to get them onsight. There was not a single sport area on that list.

Fast forward a few months. A buddy of mine has some time off as well. He wants to get some climbing in. Great. The problem is he wants to do it in El Portrero. I am not stoked to go clip some bolts but he's a good friend so I suck it up and decide to go. On the drive down I repeat every "sport climbing" joke I can think of a few times. It's a long drive. We get there just before Xmas. The first day we do some single pitch routes. My stoke remains low but it's still climbing and beer is cheap. That night we talk about getting on some of the longer routes. My stoke meter is slowly starting to rise. We pick a route called Yankee Clipper. A 15 pitch 12a.

We get up and get on it. Most of the climbing is 5.9ish. The last pitch is the crux. We literally fly up the route. Linking pitches puts us at the crux in a few hours. I get the crux pitch. I've never even been on a 12 before. The moves are hard but the bolts are bomber. So I keep scratching my way up. I finally fall at the last hard move. Did I really just do that? Can I really climb at that grade? Wow this route is cool. All these thoughts are creeping into my skull. I finish the climb and we rap down. We hit the ground just over four hours from when we started. 1500' in four hours and we weren't even trying to go fast. That rocked.

A little over FOUR months later I finally left Potrero. It's the place that opened my eyes and made me drop the BS attitude I was carrying around about sport climbing being inferior. It's just different. It allowed me to push into grades that most likely would have taken me a few more years to get to if I was just trad climbing. It made me realize that if I can climb those grades with bolts that I could also climb them on gear. It made me a better, stronger, faster climber physically. Mentally it unlocked part of my brain to allow me to try harder and reach further. Now I clip bolts. Now I boulder. Now I trad climb harder. Now I am a climber.
Rhodo-Router

Gym climber
sawatch choss
Jan 4, 2013 - 10:53am PT
...runouts...me....me...mine
this just in

climber
north fork
Jan 4, 2013 - 10:55am PT
Now I clip bolts. Now I boulder. Now I trad climb harder. Now I am a climber.

Well said. If you have to tell people how much bolder you are than other climbers, you're missing the point of climbing. Climb for yourself and let your climbing speak for you. Climb on Reed.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Jan 4, 2013 - 11:11am PT
ruppell, that was VERY well written. I wish you wrote trip reports....and you have plenty of boob pics to supplement them.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 4, 2013 - 11:11am PT
I soloed an easy 300' route once and didn't think it was all that great. I'd much rather do hard moves on a boulder or with a rope. I will never be a climber... I'm just not bold enough.
Dave Kos

Trad climber
Temecula
Jan 4, 2013 - 02:05pm PT
The quote "Sport Climbing is neither" comes from Mark Wilford who also had some bumper stickers made up with the same quote.

When I first heard that saying many years ago, I thought it was attributed to Bridwell. I may have been passing on wrong information all these years...

What I do know is that sport climbing is fun, along with many other types of climbing. That's all that matters.

The OP never mentioned whether he was looking to learn basic climbing skills (knots, belaying, etc.) or technique. (I suspect it's the latter, if this is not a troll.)

If you want to learn the basic skills, John Long is your man - buy his book.

If you want to learn technique, just get out and climb and observe others that are better than you - especially the gals, as their technique is almost always better than the guys. One of the most important insights I've had in my climbing experience is that I needed to learn to "climb like a girl."



all in jim

climber
Jan 4, 2013 - 02:26pm PT
Sport climbing... I guess.

[youtube=http://youtu.be/AN5CDewKVdk]
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Jan 4, 2013 - 03:37pm PT
Ruppell,well said.I am just a bit behind you,but want to keep that attitude.
bhilden

Trad climber
Mountain View, CA
Jan 4, 2013 - 03:47pm PT
I think the legendary Doug Scott said it best about sport climbing. It stokes our egos because with the closely spaced bolts, as we age, we can climb at the same(or higher) grade than we climbed trad.
this just in

climber
north fork
Jan 4, 2013 - 04:05pm PT
Really good video Jim. Thanks.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jan 4, 2013 - 05:13pm PT
Ruppel... +1 sums it up.


I love to sport climb and I have a bit of advise for you 101.....

You will need more than 10 draws.... buy like 20.

I prefer ones with large biners so you can hang on while you dog.

And make up a few Jesus draws for safety, you know the ones with locking biners at both ends.

But you do not need a cordellete...

Just the fact that you posted on this site shows that you have some stones.

Don't mind all the naysayers .... they just be yanking your chain, remember they are climbers and that is part of the deal.

Just have fun.
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