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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 31, 2012 - 08:10pm PT
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Sounds like Pinnacles is on it's way to National Park status.
26,000 acres of pristine terrain.
What will change from the administrative side?
Climbing there has been a mix of solace and adventure at most every turn. This will surely change the way the park offers it's resources to the public.
What say you?
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Dec 31, 2012 - 08:18pm PT
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The thinning of the blood continues apace. RIP, NPS.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there, say, mucci....
wow, thanks for the share...
oh my....
time will tell?
i don't know much about all this stuff...
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msiddens
Trad climber
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Hey Mucci-
My $.02 says nothing good. More administration, more rules, more police, more of nothing good.
Hope you had a good NYE party. Did it go off??
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Nate D
climber
San Francisco
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Spoke to a NPS volunteer friend briefly and it sounds like tighter restrictions on land use, for one.
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Bad Climber
climber
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This will suck. National Park(ing Lots) don't improve anything. Wilderness and/or National Monument status is all that is required. This will merely mean wasted money, bigger budgets, lots o' BS. The NPS wants to increase its power, and adding "parks" is one way to do it.
Is Josh any better for being a national park? Ooooooh, now we get CURBS along all the main roads. WTF?
Bah phreakin' humbug and all that.
BAd
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YosemiteSteve
Trad climber
CA
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The biggest change will most likely be more visitors. On the admin side, very little will change, since all the same rules will be in place.
Keep in mind this bill does nothing more than change the name of the park and the name of the wilderness area. It doesn't come with any more money, or any new rules.
Personally, I love Pinnacles, but I think National Monument status was quite sufficient. There have been a handful of other new National Parks in the past few years (Congaree Swamp, C and O Canal) that really don't seem to fit in the same category as Yosemite, Yellowstone or the Grand Canyon.
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YosemiteSteve
Trad climber
CA
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Bad Climber said
The NPS wants to increase its power, and adding "parks" is one way to do it.
The NPS didn't ask for this. It was a House Rep from Santa Cruz who championed this cause. As someone who just spent a year shooting a film for the new Visitor Center on the West Side, I'm actually a little bummed, cuz now we have to change the film to reflect this status change.
My sense is that nearly EVERYONE who works at Pinnacles would rather things stay as they were, and I suspect that folks back in Washington probably feel the same.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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That'd be nice, as would Colorado National Monument (Park). . .
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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too bad it is not closer to the bay area. would be a great dry tooling spot.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
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Something new on the news front on this?
Link?
The posted Sam Farr link describes 'representing the diversity' of the acreage. But it aside from the secretaries ability to land grab inholdings, I don't see specifics on how changing from Mon to Park actually benefits anyone.
If specific benefits can be layed out, then maybe. But the onus is on the proposers of the bill.
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Tork
climber
Yosemite
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This thread is worthless without boob pics.
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mtnyoung
Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
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Mucci's links say that, as of Sunday, December 30, 2012 a bill making it a national PARK has passed and is waiting for the President's signature.
Sounds like it's a done deal.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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The Pinnacles are part of the Fiscal Cliff deal? Too bad.
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Dirka
Trad climber
SF
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One of my favorite places on earth. Hope it doesn't change a bit.
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msiddens
Trad climber
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Agree with Dirka- and of course Tork too
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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National Park status always means more crowds and more rules and regs.
I don't think it's a good thing.
Yosemite Steve,
".. Keep in mind this bill does nothing more than change the name of the park and the name of the wilderness area. It doesn't come with any more money, or any new rules".
yur wrong. We saw it happen to Josh.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there say, yosemitesteve...
as to this of quote:
Personally, I love Pinnacles, but I think National Monument status was quite sufficient.
i always thought that 'national monument' seemed okay, too...
but i do not really understand all this, as i said...
but as to what dirka said:
and such:
awww, i just loved it there too, whenever we went, :)
as kids... and later in life, too...
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