Only in the human race - and then only in recent history - is it possible for regressive environmental adaptation to be nurtured and promoted as necessary and a priori for the sole purpose of perpetuation of dogma and mythology.
Nothing personal I hope Tony, you are putting yourself in the center of this thread and advocating multiple crazy ideas at the same time. But you are in good company anyway:
hahaha, I've thought that myself... but then, I am not "here" to talk about physics or any other science, I'm "here" for climbing (and I find I'm less and less "here" because of the lack of it).
I agree with you Ed. As a New Years resolution I've decided to limit my posts on here. It's sad what Supertopo has become. I wonder when Chris will pull the plug.
The problem, as distasteful a fact as it is, is that much of our problems as humans are psychological and behavioral. Thus, even in a thread devoted ostensibly to science (reason and disciplined process) a large part of it is dominated or at least attempted domination by an agenda of narcissisistic imperialism - those uninterested in a co-operative effort to evolve.
Frustrating yes, but a reality none the less that must be engaged with, as opposed to avoided.
If Tony were ever to gain a lectern and stage at a real conference of science with true experts of whatever the topic is, he would get about two minutes of opinion then be ruthlessly slaughtered by the peer review process and shown the door, mostly because he's not worth the time and energy best directed to the purpose at hand.
That can't happen here of course but we can give it the good college try, because the alternative stinks.
Braun - What the hell are you talking about? Fascistic? If you want to just shittalk then there are thtreads devoted to exactly that. If its something more technical like science or policy or butt plugs then there are threads for that as well and the best ideas and commentary floats to the top. egalitarianism dosn't mean that whatever spewsout is of equal merit. It means you have equal opportunity, but if you blow that opportunity then you get a swift boot ( well, swift but not necessarily mean) to the back of the bus.
Unless of course you live in a Fox News world where even stupid ideas are equal due to a "Fair and balanced" ethos. And thats why you have red states.
Here's what I've learned (or here's what's been reinforced) from participating here:
If there's this much misunderstanding / miscommunication from posting (which is a written system) you can just imagine how much there was long long ago amongst our ancient forebears before written systems were invented or before they evolved. And you can just imagine how much this led to violence.
Participating here is a reminder of why, back in the day, it was wise NOT to discuss religion or politics esp outside your tribe or family.
Supertopo forum, thanks for the lessons.
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Hypothesis: Better understanding, along with better communication systems, lead to a decline of violence.
i dunno, don paul--you were the one putting charles manson's support of 9/11 conspiracy theory on here--and then telling us you couldn't understand what he said.
at the risk of being ruthlessly slaughtered by scientific peers, i will venture that this thread is approaching critical mass. before we all climb onto andy divine's bronco ride, i'd like to have two thing clarified: are monolith and graniteclimber identical entities? is moosedrool italian or polish?