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Bruce Kay

Gym climber
Jan 13, 2013 - 07:40am PT
I have an evolutionary theory

LEB grew gills, fins and a tinfoil hat.

Only in the human race - and then only in recent history - is it possible for regressive environmental adaptation to be nurtured and promoted as necessary and a priori for the sole purpose of perpetuation of dogma and mythology.
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Jan 13, 2013 - 08:49am PT
Nothing personal I hope Tony, you are putting yourself in the center of this thread and advocating multiple crazy ideas at the same time. But you are in good company anyway:

Earth to Tom: Rescue Us

Boulder climber
Somewhere on 395
Jan 13, 2013 - 08:59am PT
hahaha, I've thought that myself... but then, I am not "here" to talk about physics or any other science, I'm "here" for climbing (and I find I'm less and less "here" because of the lack of it).

I agree with you Ed. As a New Years resolution I've decided to limit my posts on here. It's sad what Supertopo has become. I wonder when Chris will pull the plug.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
Jan 13, 2013 - 09:21am PT
The problem, as distasteful a fact as it is, is that much of our problems as humans are psychological and behavioral. Thus, even in a thread devoted ostensibly to science (reason and disciplined process) a large part of it is dominated or at least attempted domination by an agenda of narcissisistic imperialism - those uninterested in a co-operative effort to evolve.

Frustrating yes, but a reality none the less that must be engaged with, as opposed to avoided.

If Tony were ever to gain a lectern and stage at a real conference of science with true experts of whatever the topic is, he would get about two minutes of opinion then be ruthlessly slaughtered by the peer review process and shown the door, mostly because he's not worth the time and energy best directed to the purpose at hand.

That can't happen here of course but we can give it the good college try, because the alternative stinks.

Jan 13, 2013 - 09:38am PT
This place is not a peer review site just opinions and loose general discussions.

You guys take yourselves so seriously you lose your whole experience.

People put all kinds of ideas opinions and whatnot on this site and some of you go ballistics with a fascist agenda of being right.

That's why I always display the sarcastic line "Americans are Stupid" to further infuriate the fools who fall for that line ......

Mighty Hiker

Vancouver, B.C.
Jan 13, 2013 - 09:41am PT
"Americans are Sutpid" - I disagree, although some may be.

Anyway, thanks for not including us Canuckleheads in that.

Jan 13, 2013 - 09:48am PT
Canadians are Stupid tooooooo ....... :-)
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
Jan 13, 2013 - 09:50am PT
Braun - What the hell are you talking about? Fascistic? If you want to just shittalk then there are thtreads devoted to exactly that. If its something more technical like science or policy or butt plugs then there are threads for that as well and the best ideas and commentary floats to the top. egalitarianism dosn't mean that whatever spewsout is of equal merit. It means you have equal opportunity, but if you blow that opportunity then you get a swift boot ( well, swift but not necessarily mean) to the back of the bus.

Unless of course you live in a Fox News world where even stupid ideas are equal due to a "Fair and balanced" ethos. And thats why you have red states.

Jan 13, 2013 - 09:51am PT
Proves my point ^^^^^^

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Jan 13, 2013 - 09:52am PT
and i'll say it again, it's refreshing to have a polish fellow accusing so many others of stupidity.

Are you Polish Herr Braun ;)
Mighty Hiker

Vancouver, B.C.
Jan 13, 2013 - 09:53am PT
"And it's Bad, Bad, Werner Braun,
Baddest man in the whole damn town..."

(to the tune of "Bad, Bad Leroy Brown")

Jan 13, 2013 - 09:54am PT
moosedrool -- That's zbrowns quote

I have no clue what he's referring to ....
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
-A race of corn eaters
Jan 13, 2013 - 09:56am PT
eeyonkee, it's a tough row to hoe, eh? :)

Here's what I've learned (or here's what's been reinforced) from participating here:

If there's this much misunderstanding / miscommunication from posting (which is a written system) you can just imagine how much there was long long ago amongst our ancient forebears before written systems were invented or before they evolved. And you can just imagine how much this led to violence.

Participating here is a reminder of why, back in the day, it was wise NOT to discuss religion or politics esp outside your tribe or family.

Supertopo forum, thanks for the lessons.


Hypothesis: Better understanding, along with better communication systems, lead to a decline of violence.

May or may not be a correct hypothesis, I think.

Jan 13, 2013 - 10:05am PT
Credit: dirtbag

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Jan 13, 2013 - 10:09am PT
WBraun, it was Tony Bird's quotation.

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Jan 13, 2013 - 12:28pm PT
Werner: a fascist agenda of being right.

Pretty humorous coming from the everyone is stupid except the Vedic fairy tales guy.

Social climber
So Cal
Jan 13, 2013 - 02:13pm PT
An egocentric claim, but he's certainly a symptom.

And so also is his claim on the title.

Ice climber
the ghost
Jan 13, 2013 - 06:10pm PT
Vedic fairy tales
nutbar religion implies nutbar person
Tony Bird

Northridge, CA
Jan 14, 2013 - 07:11am PT
i dunno, don paul--you were the one putting charles manson's support of 9/11 conspiracy theory on here--and then telling us you couldn't understand what he said.

at the risk of being ruthlessly slaughtered by scientific peers, i will venture that this thread is approaching critical mass. before we all climb onto andy divine's bronco ride, i'd like to have two thing clarified: are monolith and graniteclimber identical entities? is moosedrool italian or polish?

Jan 14, 2013 - 07:15am PT
When you watch the 13 second video, Tony, you might understand why you look like a paranoid fool. He says nothing about 911.

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