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Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Jan 12, 2013 - 11:55am PT
i'm not accusing eeyonkee* of hiding. he's one of the most forthright know-it-alls i've ever encountered.

and i'll say it again, it's refreshing to have a polish fellow accusing so many others of stupidity.

*once again, my bad. i meant moosedrool again. (can anyone ever "mean" moosedrool?) moosedrool is a forthright know-it-all. i'm not sure what eeyonkee is at all.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 12, 2013 - 01:30pm PT
supertopo is harried by little minds who can't really hold forth in their alleged fields of expertise, so they come on here and try to show off

hahaha, I've thought that myself... but then, I am not "here" to talk about physics or any other science, I'm "here" for climbing (and I find I'm less and less "here" because of the lack of it). While "here" however, if some science topic comes up, I am more than happy to post...

...also, I've found that trying to explain science concepts to non-scientists to be a great discipline for myself in "getting it right" especially in science topics I should know better, for instance, evolution, climate, mind, etc...

but I'm happy to stop if Tony tells me to (well, maybe not).
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 12, 2013 - 02:29pm PT
They are the true examples of Berkeleitis, projecting their own Berkeleitiac's consciousness onto the world outside of them.

Calling others Berkeleitiacs when they themselves are the Berkeleitiacs.

If a poster's got to hide his true identity, he must be a little tiny bit insecure. If he/she is posting here, they soon figure out that they post at their own risk. It's the learning/experience curve. And some, of course, never seem to learn at all, probably, though my experience here is so short.

Hell, I did the hello/goodbye already. I freely admit that I'm not very mature for my years, which, of course, was my life goal...
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Jan 12, 2013 - 03:18pm PT
Tony B.

and i'll say it again, it's refreshing to have a polish fellow accusing so many others of stupidity.

I can help you Tony B.

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Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Jan 12, 2013 - 08:18pm PT
i have to apologize--i was way down the golden state freeway into the flatulent bowels of orange county this morning when i realized that i totally confabulated moosedrool and eeyonkee. i do believe you are separate guys, no? but with both of you going on simultaneous evolution threads, i'm sure i just put you in the same place in my, as i quoted portia, little mind. the only excuse i can offer is that i perceived an apparent ungulatory connection, assuming eeyonkee has some sort of affinity for eeyore, winnie the poohbear's buddy. perhaps he's flattered to be mistaken for a supercerebral pole.

i've done this before, to my everlasting embarrassment--confusing "looking sketchy there" for "the user formerly known as stzzo" on a joshua tree thread. but geez, guys, you'd make it easier if you just posted as yourselves.

i've always enjoyed hearing polish, MD--a feathery-sounding, fascinating language. i've had enough russian to get a very tenuous handle on it.
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Jan 12, 2013 - 08:26pm PT
Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Jan 12, 2013 - 08:47pm PT
amazing, isn't it, don paul, how a convicted murderer of the iconic stature of charles manson would be given a public platform to spew on this subject? most of those monsters go away forever. but if they're useful ...
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Jan 12, 2013 - 08:50pm PT
I couldn't really understand what he said.
monolith

climber
albany,ca
Jan 12, 2013 - 08:52pm PT
You didn't really watch the video, did ya Tony.

Your paranoia made you jump to the conclusion he was being used by the government to discredit your movement. TinfoilTonyHint: he says nothing about 911
eeyonkee

Trad climber
Golden, CO
Jan 12, 2013 - 08:56pm PT
supertopo is harried by little minds who can't really hold forth in their alleged fields of expertise, so they come on here and try to show off. eeyonkee's* recent thread is a case in point. why aren't these guys posting on math and biophysics forums with all their good friends and colleagues? i'm guessing they need a much smaller pond in which to play the big fish.

Just for the record, Tony, evolution is an avocation of mine. It's not what I do. I have a Master's degree in Geology, which I worked in for 13 years. I have worked as a software engineer for the past 12 years. Your posts show an inclination for insulting others. Your posts about evolution show that you are severely lacking in understanding of this subject. All in all, you are quite a tool!
stich

Trad climber
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Jan 12, 2013 - 10:20pm PT
You know, Donini can't reply much tonight. I just saw a recent shot of him talking down at the Ice Fest in Ouray with Jeff Lowe.

Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Jan 13, 2013 - 09:55am PT
no, i didn't watch the video. like i say, way too many links and videos on here, and no one seems to be able to communicate otherwise. i'm assuming it's what i can read on the page--charles manson lending his considerable influence and prestige to the 9/11 truth movement. since we're talking about evolution on this thread, i also assume it's just another little pebble being lobbed my way. or are we working charles manson into the evolution debate? since you have so much time to watch all these things, monolith, why don't you tell us what it's about? i guess you just rushed back here after finding the answer to your question about hilbert transformations on soaps.com. i was expecting the next post to be "hannibal lechter's presidential picks".

and while i've got your attention, you and graniteclimber--same guy, right?

evolution is an avocation of mine too, eeyonkee. your post also shows an inclination to insult others (me, for instance), and i think, to put it in your words, that you are "severely lacking in your understanding" of many aspects of evolution. take note there--two important differences in our rhetoric. i said, "i think you are" and you said, "you are". i said "aspects of evolution" and you said "evolution".

by the way, i must apologize again for confusing you with moosedrool. i may not know much, but i should be expected to be able to count toes on ungulates.

it seems that we had riley on here adhering to a random mutation point of view as the engine of evolution. then we had someone post a paper--i believe it was moosedrool--which seemed to bolster my point of view, that there is an actively experimental aspect, simply because adaptation seems to take place so quickly. would you care to address that, eeyonkee?
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 13, 2013 - 10:40am PT
I have an evolutionary theory

LEB grew gills, fins and a tinfoil hat.


Only in the human race - and then only in recent history - is it possible for regressive environmental adaptation to be nurtured and promoted as necessary and a priori for the sole purpose of perpetuation of dogma and mythology.
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Jan 13, 2013 - 11:49am PT
Nothing personal I hope Tony, you are putting yourself in the center of this thread and advocating multiple crazy ideas at the same time. But you are in good company anyway:

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10b4me

Boulder climber
Somewhere on 395
Jan 13, 2013 - 11:59am PT
hahaha, I've thought that myself... but then, I am not "here" to talk about physics or any other science, I'm "here" for climbing (and I find I'm less and less "here" because of the lack of it).

I agree with you Ed. As a New Years resolution I've decided to limit my posts on here. It's sad what Supertopo has become. I wonder when Chris will pull the plug.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 13, 2013 - 12:21pm PT
The problem, as distasteful a fact as it is, is that much of our problems as humans are psychological and behavioral. Thus, even in a thread devoted ostensibly to science (reason and disciplined process) a large part of it is dominated or at least attempted domination by an agenda of narcissisistic imperialism - those uninterested in a co-operative effort to evolve.

Frustrating yes, but a reality none the less that must be engaged with, as opposed to avoided.

If Tony were ever to gain a lectern and stage at a real conference of science with true experts of whatever the topic is, he would get about two minutes of opinion then be ruthlessly slaughtered by the peer review process and shown the door, mostly because he's not worth the time and energy best directed to the purpose at hand.

That can't happen here of course but we can give it the good college try, because the alternative stinks.
WBraun

climber
Jan 13, 2013 - 12:38pm PT
This place is not a peer review site just opinions and loose general discussions.

You guys take yourselves so seriously you lose your whole experience.

People put all kinds of ideas opinions and whatnot on this site and some of you go ballistics with a fascist agenda of being right.

That's why I always display the sarcastic line "Americans are Stupid" to further infuriate the fools who fall for that line ......

Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Jan 13, 2013 - 12:41pm PT
"Americans are Sutpid" - I disagree, although some may be.

Anyway, thanks for not including us Canuckleheads in that.
WBraun

climber
Jan 13, 2013 - 12:48pm PT
Canadians are Stupid tooooooo ....... :-)
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 13, 2013 - 12:50pm PT
Braun - What the hell are you talking about? Fascistic? If you want to just shittalk then there are thtreads devoted to exactly that. If its something more technical like science or policy or butt plugs then there are threads for that as well and the best ideas and commentary floats to the top. egalitarianism dosn't mean that whatever spewsout is of equal merit. It means you have equal opportunity, but if you blow that opportunity then you get a swift boot ( well, swift but not necessarily mean) to the back of the bus.

Unless of course you live in a Fox News world where even stupid ideas are equal due to a "Fair and balanced" ethos. And thats why you have red states.
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