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Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Feb 4, 2013 - 11:42am PT
HFCS, I repeat for your benefit:

Pope John Paul II:

In his encyclical Humani Generis (1950), my predecessor Pius XII has already affirmed that there is no conflict between evolution and the doctrine of the faith regarding man and his vocation, provided that we do not lose sight of certain fixed points.......

.....It is important to set proper limits to the understanding of Scripture, excluding any unseasonable interpretations which would make it mean something which it is not intended to mean. In order to mark out the limits of their own proper fields, theologians and those working on the exegesis of the Scripture need to be well informed regarding the results of the latest scientific research.....

Today, more than a half-century after the appearance of that encyclical, some new findings lead us toward the recognition of evolution as more than an hypothesis. In fact it is remarkable that this theory has had progressively greater influence on the spirit of researchers, following a series of discoveries in different scholarly disciplines. The convergence in the results of these independent studiesówhich was neither planned nor soughtóconstitutes in itself a significant argument in favor of the theory.

....The theory proves its validity by the measure to which it can be verified. It is constantly being tested against the facts; when it can no longer explain these facts, it shows its limits and its lack of usefulness, and it must be revised......................

From the Vatican, October 22, 1996, John Paul II
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Feb 4, 2013 - 12:23pm PT
Not many topics where I'd defend the Catholic church, but for all its faults, I don't think they're the ones denying evolution. I learned about evolution, in a Catholic school, from a former Christian Brother.

TE
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Feb 4, 2013 - 01:48pm PT
Evolution and Creationism are not mutually exclusive.

And saying that 80% of Europeans believe in evolution is really laughable....WTF does that even mean??? So what!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 3, 2013 - 09:21pm PT
bump for Fritz
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 3, 2013 - 09:27pm PT
Just noticed bluerings post. Not mutually exclusive eh.....explain that. Yeah, i like the way Euros think, they're secular, rational and better educated.
MisterE

Social climber
Apr 3, 2013 - 09:47pm PT
Redneck hippies just plain scare me.
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Apr 3, 2013 - 09:47pm PT

Bump for Jim!
GuapoVino

Trad climber
Apr 3, 2013 - 11:13pm PT
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Apr 3, 2013 - 11:19pm PT
Donini? Was my assertion---on this thread the culprit?

Lizards running our American show? The ones in SE Utah are so-----cute.


http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2106182/12-million-Americans-believe-Lizard-People-Run-Our-Country

Utah lizard?  Holy Mormon desert cows actually rule Utah.
Utah lizard? Holy Mormon desert cows actually rule Utah.
Credit: Fritz
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Apr 4, 2013 - 11:05am PT
Redneck hippies just plain scare me.


Hahaha... It really is such a clash of conflicting forms of ignorance, you really don't know what's gon' pop out their durn mouf!
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