Immunizations....what has happened

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Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 1, 2013 - 02:05am PT
actually I am interested in learning...
playing chess is something I stopped doing many years ago.

Have a great new year's eve, and comeback with some thoughts on how such a model might work... and thanks for the references...
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 1, 2013 - 03:02am PT
here is a fun article to read...
http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Academic/Laissez-Faire_In_Popn/L_F_in_Population.html

it has as it's basis the economic considerations of the parents in deciding to have children...
Degaine

climber
Jan 1, 2013 - 05:59am PT
Here are a couple of great presentations by Hans Rosling regarding future world population growth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTznEIZRkLg

http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_religions_and_babies.html


To summarize, if trends continue, the developing world continues to modernize and infant mortality rates drop, the world will reach 9 billion people in 2050 won't grow any further from there.

But watch the videos, he explains it much better.
Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Jan 1, 2013 - 07:13am PT
From the bottom video by Hans Rosling:

The number of children is not growing any longer in the world. We are still debating peak oil, but we have definitely reached peak child.

The number one factor for this to have happened was the decline in infant mortality which was due in largest part to Immunizations !
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jan 1, 2013 - 06:03pm PT
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/pakistan-charity-workers-shot-dead/story-e6frg6so-1226546441485

GUNMEN on motorcycles sprayed a van carrying employees from a community centre with bullets, killing five female teachers and two aid workers, but sparing a child they took out of the vehicle before opening fire.

The director of the group that the seven worked for says he suspects it may have been the latest in a series of attacks targeting anti-polio efforts in Pakistan. Some militants oppose the vaccination campaigns, accusing health workers of acting as spies for the US and alleging the vaccine is intended to make Muslim children sterile.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jan 2, 2013 - 09:47pm PT
Well one thing is for sure. It is not due to the shot giving you an infection of the flu. Not enough time between injection and onset of symptoms.

Sucks though no matter what has hit you.

Get well soon Locker

oh and















































YER GUNNA DIE!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jan 2, 2013 - 09:49pm PT
Immunizations are the current rage in Pakistan.
Anastasia

climber
InLOVEwithAris.
Jan 2, 2013 - 10:02pm PT
Aristides has all his shots up to date and even got a flu shot. I have never been afraid of immunizations and... I am sure my husband who deeply loves his son and knows medicine will not risk his own kid. I think people afraid of immunizations are ignorant, have never seen the diseases the kids are being protected from, really have no clue what to really be afraid of. I honestly want to send each one of them to parts of the world where these "scary" immunizations are not practiced. I bet they will change their opinions.

AFS
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Jan 2, 2013 - 11:28pm PT
Feel better Locker.

I have a lot of friends who are SICK right now. Sick. As. Dogs.

Every one of them (except you) did not get their flu shot. It takes two weeks for the immunization to take effect which can be a long time with a lot of carriers around.
MisterE

Social climber
Jan 3, 2013 - 01:08am PT
An artistic representation of the net effect of rampant breeding combined with immunization of humans from all diseases and marginal food/water sources:

Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Jan 3, 2013 - 01:11am PT
Glad you'll be to the doc tomorrow Locker! Do take care of yourself! To lose 25 pounds, you must have cut off a leg.
dirtbag

climber
Jan 3, 2013 - 02:26pm PT
I don't mind getting immunizations...



























































Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Jan 5, 2013 - 02:44am PT
This is really hard for me to understand.

Helath care professionals working in an ICU unit who don't want to get flu shots?!
In this case, they were fired over the issue.

http://news.yahoo.com/nurses-fired-refusing-flu-shot-224637902--abc-news-health.html
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 5, 2013 - 02:45am PT
2012 ends with fewest wild polio cases ever: The year ended with the fewest children paralyzed by wild polio virus, in the fewest places, in history. Two hundred and eighteen wild polio cases have been reported so far for 2012 – a greater than 60% reduction from 2011. Over the year, through the tireless dedication of the on-the-ground heroes of polio eradication, more than 2 billion doses of vaccine were distributed to 429 million children around the world.


Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 5, 2013 - 12:53pm PT
here is an interesting article on a survey of the human microbiome...

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v486/n7402/full/nature11234.html

the function of these microbes and virus are not fully understood, and their influence on our lives are only slightly understood.

ionlyski

Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
Jan 5, 2013 - 02:01pm PT
This threads way to benign, stop agreeing. Where's Klimmer?

Get well Locker. Didn't know you were that light. 140's my tops anymore but I try to keep it under 138.

Arne
ionlyski

Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
Jan 5, 2013 - 02:23pm PT
5' ?"
ionlyski

Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
Jan 5, 2013 - 02:28pm PT
Oh, OK, same. Used to be solid 5'8". And my lumbar had less curvature. Blow a disc and lose an inch!
dirtbag

climber
Jan 9, 2013 - 08:21am PT
“Melanie’s Marvelous Measles” was written to:

Educate children on the benefits of having measles and how you can heal from them naturally and successfully. Often today, we are being bombarded with messages from vested interests to fear all diseases in order for someone to sell some potion or vaccine, when, in fact, history shows that in industrialized countries, these diseases are quite benign and, according to natural health sources, beneficial to the body. Having raised three children vaccine-free and childhood disease-free, I have experienced many times when my children’s vaccinated peers succumb to the childhood diseases they were vaccinated against.

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/07/anti_vaccine_book_tells_kids_to_embrace_measles/
Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Jan 9, 2013 - 08:35am PT
That book by an Australian author just proves that not all the nut jobs are in America.

I had measles as a kid in the days before vaccines and was in a darkened room with a high fever for two weeks, unable to read or do anything. I also had mumps and chickenpox, all preventable nowadays. All of them were serious diseases.

What is so disgusting about these anti vacination advocates is their selfishness in relying on other people to vaccinate their children in sufficient numbers that there will be no outbreaks and their kids will remain healthy without vaccines. To me it's an antisocial pathology.
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