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Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
Dec 29, 2012 - 08:01am PT
Cuppa joe and some outdoor purple kush. Good Morning!

Trad climber
Where the Hoback and the mighty Snake River meet
Dec 29, 2012 - 08:47am PT
Cuppa Joe and an empty bowl. Damn. The Green Crack was, all that. Yikes!

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Dec 29, 2012 - 09:14am PT


Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
Jan 3, 2013 - 09:04pm PT
Delicious indoor Elephant!

The Granite State.
Jan 4, 2013 - 05:13pm PT
I must be stoned (fact). I had to look through the pages twice to find this thread.

Just wanted to say hi.

The Larry

Moab, UT
Jan 4, 2013 - 05:22pm PT
Second dinner...

Credit: The Larry

Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Jan 4, 2013 - 05:23pm PT
^^^ second breakfast!

Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
Jan 4, 2013 - 05:35pm PT
Outdoor Purple, to be followed with pork chops and stove top stuffing!

And applesauce of course!
The Larry

Moab, UT
Jan 4, 2013 - 05:44pm PT
Credit: The Larry

Pork chops and apple sauce!

Social climber
Jan 4, 2013 - 05:57pm PT
Representing for the stoners, eh?

So... I have a problem with what I see happening in colorado,

In the end, it undermines the underground. Or that it underminds US. That group we have developed to fight the man loses its cohesivness and its vast reach.

And the smoke is all too new. It is harvested too Mas Joven. To often, its spongy and a short lived buzz.

New weed is weak, dude.

Social climber
An Oil Field
Jan 4, 2013 - 06:12pm PT
The weed that people like is what people grow. It is supply and demand.

I know a guy who grew some white widow and he said that after 3 tokes you could talk to Jesus in person. There are many strains. Super strong, super mellow and long, you name it.

And I don't even smoke weed. I'm one of those people who get incredibly paranoid and uncomfortable when stoned. Since I also gave up drinking, I am regrettably sober as can be. When you are always sober, you will be shocked out how your friends act like total dumbasses when drunk. Stoned people are just mellow.

I lost a friend to alcohol recently, and she was in her late 40's. Her liver was destroyed. Weed doesn't do that. I have seen so much distruction from alcohol that I am in favor of downright replacing alcohol other than the high end stuff, like fine wine of scotch. Or nothing, really.

It ends the Mexican murder machine as far as marijuana is concerned. If you have ever seen that show on natural geographic called "Border Wars," then you see them busting tons of weed at the border. Screw those evil bastards. Have a bunch of 100 plant mom and pop operations. Just like having a peach orchard.

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Jan 4, 2013 - 06:24pm PT
black hash over here,

but the legend kush at 19.5 cannabis units was almost caused a tumor brain,,,

is chavez dead yet?


Trad climber
30 mins. from suicide USA
Jan 4, 2013 - 06:26pm PT

Social climber
Jan 4, 2013 - 06:50pm PT
Base, you need to review what you wrote. You are displaying a common logical mistake.

You say that to you certain knowlege, there are people producing varitials of weed that are equivilent to weeds grown using other methods and bases. You presume that they are doing this domestically, subject to some vaguly economic law of supply and demand.

Then you say you don't smoke, and never much did.

So you don't really know what you are talking about.

Guy, I am telling you that there are problems with what is being produced, and that it is a combination of climate, culture, and knowlege. The very economic pressure you quote is killing the quality, as short turnaround of huge profits is what is running the operations right now. Time to germination, time to maturity, weight at maturity and test well on the single psychoactive ingrendiaents they actually have learned to measure cheaply.

Base. respectivly:

You maybe need to approach the issue again, you have not disproved anything about my thesis, not that I was done developing it. You sound like someone who believes the propaganda.

I know better than you. I smoke dope for 45 years all the damn time, and I have EXPER-I-ENCE with the topic.

Social climber
Jan 4, 2013 - 07:07pm PT

Its impossible to speak to every varietal grown on somebodies porch somewhere, but to the industry as a whole as to what is being produced in mass quantity, millions of pounds for the masses, that you can speak to in total.

New stuff is spongy, immature and weaker, on the whole. It holds too much moisture, they aren't drying it any longer, water is being sold and its hard to smoke so moist. Nothing gets aged or compressed.

As to the Cabals on the other side, those were created by our misunderstanding of the issue, they are our fault, as Mexico often points out. We can get rid of them easy enough. That leaves the old farmers who DO have the climate, the labor costs and the knowledge and patience to grow one or two crops a year outdoors, where they plants get stronger and thicker and produce the full range of expression that the Latino growers managed to get out of the crop in the old days.

I think the Latino grower on SA Soil is still the future of marijuana. Make it legal, destroy the huge profits, provide a legal channel and nobody in Colorado will ever be able to make a competitive business out of indoor-heated lamp-solar operations using American help unless they have the legally-protected and licensed-mandated Medical market to sell to.

That will be fully guaranteed soon, with licensing and regs. But the other market is soon to be open to competition again.

Mega farms in Mexico will soon be making the high-quality recreational weed and sending it here. How could it possibly be anything else?

California can only do so much growing under the present system, Even if you DO have that genius horticulturalist, who is unbelievably patient and has the genetic seed stock, he is limited to producing only such a small quantity that he can't expand legally under this system.

A ten-thousand small growers means mediocre weed on the whole.

And the loss of our own home grown underground is being totally ignored. Culturally, its a far huger change than just allowing stoners weed. It hurts the Mexican gangs, sure. But it really kills a lot of Americans counter-culture underground, the black economy under your own.

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jan 4, 2013 - 07:09pm PT
It's Friday night....better boned than stoned!

edit: I know, they are not mutually exclusive.

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Jan 4, 2013 - 07:17pm PT
on cosmic's birfday?

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 4, 2013 - 07:23pm PT

"I know better than you. I smoke dope for 45 years all the damn time, and I have EXPER-I-ENCE with the topic."...


I DO in FACT KNOW what the fuk I am talking about and you, Wallslave, are absolutely INCORRECT!!!...

You MUST be buying from one SH!TTY grower...

And I've got you BEAT, on years of EXPER-I-ENCE...



Base104 is CORRECT...


Trad climber
Placerville, California
Jan 4, 2013 - 07:35pm PT
we can have high times!
if you'll abide.

we can discover the wonders of nature,
flowing thru the rushes,
down by the riverside.
The Larry

Moab, UT
Jan 4, 2013 - 07:53pm PT
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