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schwortz
Social climber
"close to everything = not at anything", ca
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Dec 29, 2012 - 11:52pm PT
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owens for sure.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Dec 29, 2012 - 11:55pm PT
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I saw a proposed choss pile with very chalked up holds. A real choss pile dose not have holds with the permanence required to accumulate chalk.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Dec 30, 2012 - 12:03am PT
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OK....how about the Rotwand Wall in Eldo and Notch Peak. I absolutely loved Notch Peak.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Dec 30, 2012 - 12:16am PT
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But the Rotwand is in Eldo which is world famous....Steve Wunsch loved it.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Dec 30, 2012 - 01:20am PT
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Bump for choss!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 30, 2012 - 02:53am PT
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Bruce, isn't the 800 pound gorilla in the room usually studiously ignored?
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Dec 30, 2012 - 03:51am PT
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Hankster, those Riglos shots are awesome!
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Dec 30, 2012 - 10:12am PT
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Right you are Bruce Kay with the exception of "Back of the Lake" near Lake Louise where the rock is bullet proof.
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Gilroy
Social climber
Boulderado
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Dec 30, 2012 - 10:32am PT
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El Potrero Chico
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Gilroy
Social climber
Boulderado
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Dec 30, 2012 - 10:37am PT
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Good thing there's not a scene there.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Dec 30, 2012 - 11:52am PT
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I CAN hear the musica blaring.. ;)
Oh.. Not exactly "world famous" but I'll throw Echo Cliffs in the mix as favorite local choss-pile.
If it's not a whole new climb (from holds breaking off) every time you climb it.. it's not quality choss.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Dec 30, 2012 - 12:33pm PT
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If it's not a whole new climb (from holds breaking off) every time you climb it.. it's not quality choss.
Most excellent assessment.
For "quality Choss" may I recommend most anything in the West Elk Mountains of Colorado.
Just ask Paul Ryan I am sure he will regale you with foot notes from his World Class ass-sents.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Dec 30, 2012 - 12:43pm PT
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I learned to climb on a railroad cut in NH. Well, Rumney really, but this cut is ten minutes from my house as opposed to an hour for Rumney.
Really bad climbing. There would be tons of positive edges if you flipped the whole crag upside down. As it is, there are lots of slopey holds and funky angles that are always trying to push you off.
It gets no direct sun and is infested with mosquitos and poison ivy.
But, I cut my teeth climbing there.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Dec 30, 2012 - 12:44pm PT
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Sounds like a lovely vacation destination. :)
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Dec 30, 2012 - 12:45pm PT
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Free camping!!!
Edit; it's WAY better than the slag heap that is the Seward Highway road cut. We make wicked good road cuts 'round here.
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Dec 30, 2012 - 02:19pm PT
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Sedona!
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Dec 30, 2012 - 02:38pm PT
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What about Camelback Mountain in Phoenix?
That's not even good choss.
Curt
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weezy
climber
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Dec 30, 2012 - 02:47pm PT
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indian creek
"hey bro i need to borrow fifty cams so i can do the same move over and over for 150 feet"
heh, just kidding. but really if i never had to lead Supercrack again i wouldn't shed a single tear.
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grover
climber
Northern Mexico
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Dec 30, 2012 - 02:49pm PT
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You said it Riley.
I've yet to find consistent choss like the Rockies has anywhere else.
Pitch 6 Windtower north-east face, you couldn't pay me enough to re-lead it.
Only time I've had all 4 holds slump at the same time.
Started smoking (again) on that climb......
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DanaB
climber
CT
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Dec 30, 2012 - 03:38pm PT
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The old guide to the Canadian Rockies had something written (can't remember the exact words) that was " . . . the great majority of the routes in the Canadian Rockies are piles of crap with no redeeming qualities."
El Portrero, I agree. That place is like a shopping mall or the Jersey shore, but it just happens to have bolts.
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