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Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Dec 27, 2012 - 06:04pm PT
Another example.

Drug laws do more harm than good.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Dec 27, 2012 - 06:07pm PT
Malaysian legislation provides for a mandatory death penalty for convicted drug traffickers. Individuals arrested in possession of 15 grams (1/2 ounce) of heroin or 200 grams (seven ounces) of marijuana are presumed by law to be trafficking in drugs.--Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_cannabis_by_country
For what it's worth.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Dec 27, 2012 - 06:10pm PT
The near analogy for illegal grow-ops seems to be tobacco. A few people grow and cure their own, most just buy it. Somewhat different history and culture for those who grow marijuana, but I suspect that if there's reasonable regulation as to quality and production, over time most will be grown on farms, and most will just buy the stuff at the store.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Dec 27, 2012 - 06:42pm PT
Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Dec 27, 2012 - 06:51pm PT
Ken M, we need some people like you to go down below the Underworld area in Castle Rock SP and cart back up all the growing materials and irrigation conduit left down there by the growers beneath the Green Monster formation. The stuff has been left down there for at least 5 years and, as far as I know, no one has done anything about it so far. Correct me if I'm wrong I hope.
TWP

Trad climber
Mancos, CO
Dec 27, 2012 - 08:01pm PT
^^^^

"Ken M, we need some people like you to go down below the Underworld area in Castle Rock SP and cart back up all the growing materials and irrigation conduit left down there by the growers beneath the Green Monster formation. "



Hey, why do "SOME PEOPLE" need to clean up this mess?

Why not YOU (Bruce Morris) be the organizer. Why not SUPERTOPEANS (specifically those who most likely would use Castle Rock/Green Monster) be the organizers?

Reminds me of the old story entitled "Whose Job Is It" and it's about somebody, nobody and everybody:

It goes like this:


"This is a story about four people named Everybody, Somebody,

Anybody, and Nobody. There was an important job to be done and

Everybody was asked to do it. Everybody was sure Somebody would

do it. Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it. Somebody

got angry about that, because it was Everybody's job. Everybody

thought Anybody could do it but Nobody realized that Everybody

wouldn't do it. It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when

Nobody did what Anybody could have done."
the albatross

Gym climber
Flagstaff
Dec 27, 2012 - 08:38pm PT
Here is an interesting film called "Breaking the Taboo" which discusses the tragedy and failure of the war on drugs.

"Narrated by Morgan Freeman and Gael Garcia Bernal, this groundbreaking new documentary uncovers the UN sanctioned war on drugs, charting its origins and its devastating impact on countries like the USA, Colombia and Russia. Featuring prominent statesmen including Presidents Clinton and Carter, the film follows The Global Commission on Drug Policy on a mission to break the political taboo and expose the biggest failure of global policy in the last 50 years."

2 minute trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2vqpNT1kV4
paganmonkeyboy

climber
mars...it's near nevada...
Dec 27, 2012 - 09:09pm PT
"Don't blame the pot growers. Put the blame where it really belongs - on the pot smokers."

this sounds rather simplistic and parroted talking point rather than well thought out to me - by the same logic : so car drivers are responsible for oil spills ?
Ricky

climber
Sometimes LA
Dec 27, 2012 - 09:23pm PT
The near analogy for illegal grow-ops seems to be tobacco.

Moonshine.
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Dec 27, 2012 - 11:12pm PT
The same LATimes also ran an article a few days later NOW stating that the Mexican Cartel Connection might be a wee bit overblown. The gist of the article suggests that what we really have in the woods are a bunch of out-of-work former Construction Framers and Field Workers looking to make a few bucks.

In other words - the big bad drug boogie man turns out to mostly be unemployed guys named Gonzalez from Fresno.

While the connection to major Mexican drug cartels may be mostly SWAT Team wet dreams, the fact remains that these dirtbags are trashing the woods in a big way. That has to stop.

Also to be asked is who is doing the buying of this garbage?

In state, a lot of this blood weed goes to the marginal low rent dispensaries in LA, with a fair amount also being picked up by so-called Brokers who ship it to the East Coast where yokels will buy anything that even looks like weed.

The reputable dispensaries generally buy from known growers with well-documented nurseries and methods of cultivation. When I was donating to a couple of local centers - I had to be inspected before acceptance as a grower/patient and always had my produce tested for contaminants prior to release for users.

This problem with guerrillas will not go away until the demand for their cheap crap stops. Either grow your own (expensive and not easy with today's finicky strains)or shop with a reputable collective.

zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Dec 27, 2012 - 11:24pm PT
My 2c. And I'm not a weed-smoker.

I have tried it on more than one occasion, did inhale, but would not recommend smoking it to anyone. zBrownies should be evaluated, but here I have no recommendation.
Josh Higgins

Trad climber
San Diego
Dec 27, 2012 - 11:36pm PT
Supply and demand: pot smokers suck big time also. They fund some pretty disgusting things in this world to feed their habit/addiction.

Josh
rincon

Trad climber
SoCal
Dec 27, 2012 - 11:41pm PT
They fund some pretty disgusting things in this world to feed their habit/addiction.

The same could said about people who eat beef and poultry.
paganmonkeyboy

climber
mars...it's near nevada...
Dec 27, 2012 - 11:42pm PT
I hear that whole post in your Smoooooove voice Mr Ricky D - tingles ;-)

why are you not on the radio...
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Dec 27, 2012 - 11:48pm PT
Well...at least ONE of us was medicated ;)

Seeing stars
Seeing stars
Credit: Ricky D
paganmonkeyboy

climber
mars...it's near nevada...
Dec 27, 2012 - 11:57pm PT
omg dude i'm laughing my ass off - i need to get my sh#t out there, and soon...


we should stage a smoke out. Only organically grown certified safe and approved weed, burn the chem crap in a pile in front of us, sit on the steps of the state capitol and send a statement...order some food...
MisterE

Social climber
Dec 28, 2012 - 12:02am PT
Hey, I like the thread hijack! Pictures of PMB pointing aimlessly - who knew?

Credit: MisterE
paganmonkeyboy

climber
mars...it's near nevada...
Dec 28, 2012 - 12:09am PT
careful - there are Hundreds of these ;-) since I never have two arms and don't climb on film...

that's shortly before I left the ground without my harness doubled back, btw...this day is FOREVER BURNED IN MY MIND ;-) that could have been sooooo ugli...don't ever talk to riley while peeing dammit...
Gary

Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
Dec 28, 2012 - 12:28am PT
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/studies/cu/cumenu.htm

Consumer Reports knew the answer back in the '70s. When will we learn?
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Dec 28, 2012 - 12:33am PT
TWP wrote:

"Ken M, we need some people like you to go down below the Underworld area in Castle Rock SP and cart back up all the growing materials and irrigation conduit left down there by the growers beneath the Green Monster formation. "



Hey, why do "SOME PEOPLE" need to clean up this mess?

Why not YOU (Bruce Morris) be the organizer. Why not SUPERTOPEANS (specifically those who most likely would use Castle Rock/Green Monster) be the organizers?

Reminds me of the old story entitled "Whose Job Is It" and it's about somebody, nobody and everybody:

To be fair to Bruce, I thought the same at first. However, when I actually participated, it was an eye-opener.

First, this is on public land. You can't just go do this stuff. You are out in a growth site without permission, you might be mistaken in your intent.

Second, one needs training in how to handle some of this stuff. It's not my specialty (I tend to stick to trailwork these days), but one has to get a lot of training to do this stuff. Just to work around helicopters takes training and equipment.

There is a fair amount of specialized gear needed, such as the helicoptor nets. (oh, and helicoptors....and they don't come cheap) On the Sierra west side we often work with H-40, the CHP helo out of Fresno, the same one that does evac in Yos. They are highly skilled guys.

So it is not as simple to organize as it might seem.
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