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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 25, 2012 - 12:04pm PT
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I heard this has caused alot more static than anyone had anticipated. so hopefully this guy can find a more suitable place to collect his stone
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 25, 2012 - 12:20pm PT
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Dan, click the link on the first page if you havent already
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 25, 2012 - 12:33pm PT
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Dan, I'm not sure but my friend at the f.s. say's that this isn't even close to being done and we should send letters to the head ranger genny wilson her address is in the link I posted
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Dec 25, 2012 - 12:59pm PT
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Sorry to hear about this. But this is just the tip of the iceberg we will be seeing nationwide as counties and states budgets deplete, they will be opening up options on quarrying, mining, logging, etc, that previously would have never been on the table. Very sad times for America. Ill write a letter even though never been, hoping for the best!
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 25, 2012 - 01:07pm PT
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The say at the F.S. That this is a special use permit and not done for revenue just bus. as usual. I'm callin bullshit on that one if there was no money in it for them it wouldn't even be considered.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Dec 25, 2012 - 01:26pm PT
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This is what one man with hand tools can do to the base of a boulder looking for artifacts.
1500 tons of grainite is only ~700 cubic yards, which would cover an area ~100'x200' if it were excavated 1' deep. It will be deeper than 1', so the areal extent will be less. Then there are the tracks, etc. It will be a scar for sure, and may affect access.
From what I've seen, it is much easier to augment and expand an operation once it is already going. Mining operations almost always fail to implement the proper restoration measures... if there even are any.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 25, 2012 - 01:27pm PT
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I understand Ron but he should have to find a more suitable location. I realize the locations he has chosen a very conveniant therefore increasing his profit margin.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 25, 2012 - 01:29pm PT
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Thanks for posting that photo Wes I was thinking of doing the same.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 25, 2012 - 01:32pm PT
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Mark my words it's going to look like a f*#king bomb went off there.
EDIT: Ron, Could we get a special use permit for the cave?
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Footloose
Trad climber
Lake Tahoe
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Dec 25, 2012 - 01:41pm PT
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My God, what next, a quarry?!
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 25, 2012 - 01:45pm PT
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Gettin ins the hard part. once their in skys the limit
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 25, 2012 - 02:43pm PT
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You want granite??
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Dec 27, 2012 - 01:46am PT
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kenny, any idea where this guy operates out of? Big city slicker from Reno?
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 27, 2012 - 10:46am PT
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Wes, I think he's from Sparks
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BurnRockBurn
climber
South of Black Rock City (CC,NV)
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Dec 27, 2012 - 12:17pm PT
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Well this just sucks. Along with chim we have seen illegal taking of granite over the years in the proposed area illegally. Probably the same people that now want the permit.
Ron I do have LZA on my rebolt list priority one. Ill get it done this spring
Shawn
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 4, 2013 - 10:58am PT
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Forest service contact: genny wilson, gewilson@fs.fed.us
EDIT: the original contact keith whaley has been changed
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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nice
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Laine
Trad climber
Reno, NV
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Great work guys! I'll be sure to shoot an email asap.
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Laine
Trad climber
Reno, NV
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Done. Thanks for your efforts, Ron. You are a true steward to the Fords!
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2013 - 06:20pm PT
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Ron, that is great news I just got back from the Cat scratch fever. cool route, and I like all that rock layin around where it belongs! Thank's for the follow up Ron, Good work Guy's.
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